POLL: Stadium upgrades
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I think all 3 could be done in an offseason though.
The LED lights are just a must and it's to the point where I wouldn't even make some tweet or publicity about putting them in because it's just embarrassing we don't have them yet. Hell, our baseball stadium even has them which tells you all you need to know about our previous AD
Did Selmon say that specifically in the article? I think he's waiting on the master plan to determine next steps but those seem like not time consuming things outside of the seats.
Haven't read it, but what is there to determine? Find the contractor and pay them. It's not like those things require a substantive infrastructure change.
Preaching to the choir but I would think the LED lights would the first thing that could be done. Seats and audio might change based on changes made structurally to the stadium in the plan.
Not sure how much capacity would be affected by adding chairbacks in DWS, but I know when UNC converted Kenan Stadium to chairback a few years ago, they had a capacity of about 62,500 (about 1k higher than our capacity now), and now they have a capacity of 50,500, so we would be looking at a DWS capacity at about 50k-53k ish, give or take, with chairbacks. This would drop us a spot below Kentucky (Kroger Field: 61,000) to 13th in the SEC in capacity. Vandy is last with 40,350 in FirstBank Stadium, although I doubt Vandy fans could even fill up Nanih Waiya's beachers.
Just for reference, last time our capacity was around that much:
2001 capacity before the 2002 renovation was 45,286
2002 capacity during reno was 52,884
2003 capacity was 55,082 after renovation was completed
Just guesstimating and throwing some scenarios out there. I'd much, MUCH rather have chairbacks though.
Just for reference, last time our capacity was around that much:
2001 capacity before the 2002 renovation was 45,286
2002 capacity during reno was 52,884
2003 capacity was 55,082 after renovation was completed
Just guesstimating and throwing some scenarios out there. I'd much, MUCH rather have chairbacks though.
How many master plans do we have to do? Just dust off the last one and get going.
I don't get the love for the lights. I've seen them at other stadiums but they are just kind of, meh? They use them at The Dude for a home run but not once have I ever heard ANYBODY say, damn, those really look awesome and add a lot, nobody even says anything about them, at all. They flash them for awhile after a home run and then, its over. I don't get it, enlighten me (pun intended)
All maroon chairbacks except for student sections and faculty section - since only visiting team fans sit there anyway
I wonder if they added chairbacks everywhere. I'd go for us just adding to lower east & west sides. Leave upper sections and student sections as they are now. That may also encourage people to buy tickets in the lower levels vs. sitting up top --- would probably look better on TV since that's mainly what you see.
I could be wrong, but I think they have chairback seating everywhere but the student section, including their upper decks, but they are also a complete bowl. I think it would also be interesting to see what their plan is to close in the South EZ and turn that into chairback seating as well, because Cohen apparently wanted that done at one point.
Cohen quote from July 2022: "'(We want) to full circle, to be able to visit every part of the football facility,' Cohen said. 'We’re not there yet. Very few facilities are like our baseball facility (Edit: classic Cohen, LOL) in which you can walk 360 and have an optimal view of the game.'"
I’m with Peeper on the LED lights. Just don’t get the love for them. I honestly think they are a little cheesy and bush league. I don’t care who else has them, including Bama and Myrtle. Only thing I hate worse is bat flipping.
They’re a relatively cheap and easy option to do cool stuff with. We have one in our pool, and can set it to all kinds of things…. It’ll be red for Halloween, etc.
I don’t care anything about a light show like everybody was raving about at the scar game. But, it’s a quick win and pretty versatile.
Can you add WiFi/upgraded cell service? It would be expensive but easy to do and everyone would benefit.
Here comes the wet blanket on the chair back idea…. And while I do think it would be our most welcome upgrade I do not think it is physically feasible in our stadium. If you think of each row as a stair step, made out of concrete as they are. These steps have a fixed tread depth. This is the measurement from one step toe to the next heel, or the flat part as measured in a direction to and from the sideline. Think of this as the distance from your knee to the knee behind you. Its pretty tight to sit as it is on bleachers. I’m 6’ and if I’m sitting behind and in front of similarly sized people then I can’t imagine having another ~2” of that tread depth taken away by the thickness of a chair back. The only way to increase this depth is to sawcut every other row which would leave us with way too much tread depth and half the lower bowl capacity. We would also have to reduce capacity laterally for armrests. I cant see us reducing capacity in the lower deck by over 50%
unless we put a vertical clearance bar at the entrances to keep out all the fans over 5’9”.
unless we put a vertical clearance bar at the entrances to keep out all the fans over 5’9”.
What's the slope and rise of the west 100 level? Also the east club level? You have chairbacks there and just below bleachers. I can't remember a noticeable difference in the space and rise of the steps in either locations.
Then the west upper deck. You have chairbacks in a small section and bleachers above and below. The west upper can easily accommodate chairbacks based on that fact alone.
Then the west upper deck. You have chairbacks in a small section and bleachers above and below. The west upper can easily accommodate chairbacks based on that fact alone.
Not until we have some good wins, I'm not talking about sneaking past W MI, I'm talking about beating a bad LSU team maybe earlier this year? Then maybe a mediocre KY? Then beat the brakes off a terrible Univ of Southern MS team followed 5 days later by beating Univ of Northern MS. Lose those then you won't see fans for at least 2 years because next year will be worse than this one
How much time do fans spend underneath the East or West side bleachers, seriously? You walk to your seats, maybe visit the troughs while the band plays then walk back to the car after the game. I bet I spend no more than 10 minutes per game under the bleachers
BS. We won last year. We had a small crowd for SELA. Then we had perfect weather and kickoff for AZ and nobody shows. We are 2-0 going into the LSU, small crowd.
State fans deserve nothing. Because What's the point of led lights and blah blah blah if no one is there.
I’ve been to every SEC stadium, and east concourse is far from the worst. Maybe even upper tier. Especially when comparing to Tiger Stadium, Jordan Hare, Neyland, Florida, etc.
Chairbacks equal comfort which equals more money.
There are plans to completely redo the tread of the west, lower bowl to accommodate chairbacks
I don’t get it either.
Maybe MSU wants to blind us so we don’t see how terrible we are. **
Redoing the concrete pads for the chairbacks will be the most time cosuming. Current seat spacing is 18" width. New seating will likely use a 20-21" width for all the new fat arses we now have. Plus, an increase of several inches in depth will be needed for better leg room and movement through the aisles. Will likely reduce current stadium capacity to around 50K.
It may not be the worst in the SEC, but it's the worst at Davis Wade, by far. It does not match the rest of the stadium. That's a fairly cheap fix too. Comfort isn't going to mean much more money these days. You are competing with the couch at home there. That is a battle that can NOT be won. If comfort is the thing, people ain't going to come. It's the extraneous experiences/annoyances that will make a real difference. That means making parking easier, and cheaper. That means making it easy to get a hot dog and a beer/coke, and not so expensive. That also means making it easier to get to a restroom and making those not so revolting. Cutting the expense and annoyance to actually GOING to a game will improve the atmosphere AND attendance. That will do more than the relatively small loss of revenue in the long run. What WE need to be doing is making it cheaper and easier to go to a game. That will pay real dividends in the future. I ain't holding my breath. We never look at the long term.
The underside of the east side vs the north endzone and the west side? Just go look at it.
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