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According to this only the 50 mile radius population of Pullman WA, and Manhattan, KS are smaller than MSU. Pretty interesting The SEC as a whole is not located in great population centers. Thank goodness for television. Probably does have some relevance to local NIL.
No way. We got loads of money. Just waiting on the right moment to strike with our NIL warchest...**It's not just the population. It's who makes up that population. I'll guarantee you money wise we are dead last.
For years, I've wondered why Rutgers, UVA and Maryland weren't giants in every sport, especially football. I think it harkens back to the issue that pro sports are big deals in these areas?Rutgers is the sleeping giant
To me, the sleeping giant could be UNLV. Endless local supply of potential NIL money, large local population, large tourist population looking for entertainment, plays in a modern NFL stadium walking distance from the city's main attraction.......Rutgers is the sleeping giant
Are they in a conference? Someone slick, like Lame, could probably build a monster there.To me, the sleeping giant could be UNLV. Endless local supply of potential NIL money, large local population, large tourist population looking for entertainment, plays in a modern NFL stadium walking distance from the city's main attraction.......
He would actually be their perfect guy plus he could hang around and flip off the Raiders the next day.Are they in a conference? Someone slick, like Lame, could probably build a monster there.
600K around Oxford. Are 400 thousand of them living underground? 20% of the states population lives around Oxford? I guess straight line distance gets you part of Memphis and Tupelo.View attachment 518458
According to this only the 50 mile radius population of Pullman WA, and Manhattan, KS are smaller than MSU. Pretty interesting The SEC as a whole is not located in great population centers. Thank goodness for television. Probably does have some relevance to local NIL.
Especially when the small Mississippi town leadership thinks the University is a nuisance.It’s pretty incredible how well the University has done despite where it’s located. Unfortunately, it will always be an uphill battle being located in a small Mississippi town without much upside.
No doubt. Big population is good, but not has to have enough people who care enough to create a winning culture in whatever sport.Maybe there's only so much energy to expend to "fandom?"
No doubt. Big population is good, but not has to have enough people who care enough to create a winning culture in whatever sport.
I’ve heard from our self loathing mouth breathers for years that anyone can recreate our baseball program. Yet not that many have been able. Guess it’s harder than it looks, huh?
I had a buddy who’s a state grad tell me the other day that we have the smallest campus enrollment of any SEC school - except for Vanderbilt who is last. Is that correct?Those Ivy League teams are wasting so much potential **
And With Alabama next door, stealing athletes and fans.It’s pretty incredible how well the University has done despite where it’s located. Unfortunately, it will always be an uphill battle being located in a small Mississippi town without much upside.
Definitely true. Swimming upstream forever, and that will continue.It’s pretty incredible how well the University has done despite where it’s located. Unfortunately, it will always be an uphill battle being located in a small Mississippi town without much upside.
Neck and neck with UMiss I'd say.I had a buddy who’s a state grad tell me the other day that we have the smallest campus enrollment of any SEC school - except for Vanderbilt who is last. Is that correct?
They count DeSoto county and mempo600K around Oxford. Are 400 thousand of them living underground? 20% of the states population lives around Oxford? I guess straight line distance gets you part of Memphis and Tupelo.
You said it -- there's a lot more going on in those areas: energy expended on things other than following high school players on social media and jock sniffing in general.For years, I've wondered why Rutgers, UVA and Maryland weren't giants in every sport, especially football. I think it harkens back to the issue that pro sports are big deals in these areas?
Maybe there's only so much energy to expend to "fandom?
Estimates for July 2023 will be released in late March.Thia thread make me curious about the Oktibbeha county population figures. So I gathered:
2010 47,671
2020 51,698
2021 51,808
2022 51,427
I'll be interested to see if 2023 brings another decrease. If so I'd assume the decade from 2020 to 2030 won't be as kind as 2010 to 2020. I'd hate to think 2021 is the peak of the population growth.
I can’t imagine the population truly went down. And with Steel Dynamics, I can’t see it staying that way even if it did. Census is notorious about messing up rural areas. And it’s not like property values are down.Thia thread make me curious about the Oktibbeha county population figures. So I gathered:
2010 47,671
2020 51,698
2021 51,808
2022 51,427
I'll be interested to see if 2023 brings another decrease. If so I'd assume the decade from 2020 to 2030 won't be as kind as 2010 to 2020. I'd hate to think 2021 is the peak of the population growth.
If the Big 12 was smart, they'd already have UNLV. Along with Oregon State and Washington State. And then probably would have grabbed Boise State as well. They messed up by not getting SMU.Are they in a conference? Someone slick, like Lame, could probably build a monster there.
Rutgers is in the far exurbs of NYC, where there's a hell of a lot more to do than watch Rutgers athletics.Rutgers is the sleeping giant
I would love to see the total number of households in each circle living at or beneath the poverty level and the total number with over 100K income.
The only real big things to look at are these:First off, Pullman WA is no longer relevant. They are no longer a power conference university. So it’s really just KSU below us in this particular metric.
Secondly, 50 miles is a fairly arbitrary distance. You drop it to 40 or even increase it to 120, and Ole Miss looks about the same as us or maybe worse. Alabama also looks a lot worse if you shrink it to 40 and they lose most of the Bham metro.
In any case, this tells us not so much that we didn’t already know. Mississippi is a sparsely populated, mostly rural state. Water is wet.
Other teams don't have to worry about recreating our program because they realize that 15k crowds don't equate to national championships. That has been part of the problem over the decades with MSU baseball fans is they care more about getting 15k crowds on SBW and the post season than they do what happens on the field in Omaha. It's fine to pat yourself on the back on being an attendance leader if that's what floats your boat but for a program that many of our own claim "invented SEC baseball", you would think they would aim a little higher.No doubt. Big population is good, but not has to have enough people who care enough to create a winning culture in whatever sport.
I’ve heard from our self loathing mouth breathers for years that anyone can recreate our baseball program. Yet not that many have been able. Guess it’s harder than it looks, huh?
Eh, I think you're being too harsh. That's our unique advantage. And granted, one advantage doesn't make a program, but it's all we have, along with winning tradition (much in part to our fan support). Other programs also have advantages that work, like Vandy's scholarships, and the California/Florida schools' overall access to big time talent. But we have great baseball culture here - and on any given year, when MSU offers a recruit, they are interested, for this very reason.Other teams don't have to worry about recreating our program because they realize that 15k crowds don't equate to national championships. That has been part of the problem over the decades with MSU baseball fans is they care more about getting 15k crowds on SBW and the post season than they do what happens on the field in Omaha. It's fine to pat yourself on the back on being an attendance leader if that's what floats your boat but for a program that many of our own claim "invented SEC baseball", you would think they would aim a little higher.
Nobody from Huntsville goes through Birmingham / Tuscaloosa on the way to Starkville. It’s the longest possible route. No benefit at all to going that way unless you’re doing some shopping or some other specific side trip in Bham.Huntsville and Birmingham have to drive through Tuscaloosa to get to Starkville, that is not ideal. Yes, I know you can take back roads but let's get real, most take the interstate to 82.
Memphis Metro area is growing straight toward Oxford. Hernando is now the fastest growing city in Desoto County. Last metro population I heard was between 1.3 and 1.4 million. Inside the Memphis city limits is losing population, but the whole area around Memphis is growing significantly. I would suspect that Senatobia will start growing rapidly as well within the next 5 years.....then on towards Batesville within the next 10-15 years. I also expect east/northeast Memphis area going out toward Lakeland and Arlington will be booming soon with Ford's new Blue Oval City assembly plant set to open in the next few years near Stanton.600K around Oxford. Are 400 thousand of them living underground? 20% of the states population lives around Oxford? I guess straight line distance gets you part of Memphis and Tupelo.
Latinos have a crime rate similar to whites but you have to have jobs for them. Those who come to America aren't highly educated. Not sure how you lure highly educated, talented immigrants outside of the big 3 university towns. Is Mississippi likely to create an urban center like Huntsville?Mississippi desperately needs financial and human capital. We should embrace immigration and actively seed to add hundreds of thousands of new people over the next several years. I don’t think immigrants are more risky than domestic migrants, but we ain’t exactly the first choice for domestic migration.
I only support LEGAL immigration. The illegal immigration going on now is despicable. Hope Trump gets elected and deports every single illegal immigrant. I welcome all immigrants who apply properly through our government and get vetted thoroughly. Half my family is from El Paso. Back in the 50's and 60's illegal immigration wasn't a problem. My grandfather used to tell me that every now and then a Mexican would attempt to cross the Rio Grande near downtown. Then the Border Patrol would tell them to stop and go back. If they didn't......they were shot dead. He told me that once they killed an illegal migrant, the Mexican Police let the body lay in the river or on the bank. Nobody tried to cross again for several months or years after seeing what happened. They say our population is declining by about a million per year. Guess what?.............we're aborting about a million babies a year. Go figure.Mississippi desperately needs financial and human capital. We should embrace immigration and actively seed to add hundreds of thousands of new people over the next several years. I don’t think immigrants are more risky than domestic migrants, but we ain’t exactly the first choice for domestic migration.
Weird thing to pick to argue about, but yeah, they actually do. Especially college kids. But even they do take the other routes (and spare me directions, I know them), you're still headed through the heart of Bama country.Nobody from Huntsville goes through Birmingham / Tuscaloosa on the way to Starkville. It’s the longest possible route. No benefit at all to going that way unless you’re doing some shopping or some other specific side trip in Bham.
Our population isn't declining. Americans, like people elsewhere, are having fewer kids and by choice, shooting someone is murder whether they're crossing a border or not, abortions were declining even before the SC decision. "They" aren't often well informed. Be careful about trusting "they" and "them." And yes too many people come to the US illegally. Trump just lost a lot of money after a jury concluded he sexually assaulted someone and defamed her. I understand that he's losing some evangelical support so he likely needs to call some more women fat and ugly and maybe nail another porn star. Don't forget about what King David did.I only support LEGAL immigration. The illegal immigration going on now is despicable. Hope Trump gets elected and deports every single illegal immigrant. I welcome all immigrants who apply properly through our government and get vetted thoroughly. Half my family is from El Paso. Back in the 50's and 60's illegal immigration wasn't a problem. My grandfather used to tell me that every now and then a Mexican would attempt to cross the Rio Grande near downtown. Then the Border Patrol would tell them to stop and go back. If they didn't......they were shot dead. He told me that once they killed an illegal migrant, the Mexican Police let the body lay in the river or on the bank. Nobody tried to cross again for several months or years after seeing what happened. They say our population is declining by about a million per year. Guess what?.............we're aborting about a million babies a year. Go figure.