Post Mortem, Oregon 45, Penn State 37

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Good:

-Rushing game looked strong with Singleton and Allen both going over the century mark, and each posting big runs of 30+ yards.

-Generally good offensive play calling all night that created opportunity, and consistently moved the ball. Penn State played aggressively and was able to hang with the #1 team in the country: the exact opposite of what they did against Ohio State where they played scared. This offensive scheme easily wins the Nov. 2 game against the Buckeyes.

Middling:

-It's hard to say that Tyler Warren had a bad game when he notched 7 catches for 87 yards. But he did have a bad drop on a very easy catch. He also ran the ball twice to no effect, and while the 2pca was a bizarre call, Warren wasn't even able to force a throw and give them a chance. He didn't have a BAD game, but it was far from his best game, which is what we needed.

-Drew Allar's weaknesses as a QB were on display in this game. At times, he made surgical throws, and delivered in clutch situations, notably on a late 4th and 10 that kept Penn State's hopes alive-- possibly the greatest play he's ever made, as he was in the process of being sacked.

Still, when all was said and done, Oregon brought pressure, which caused Drew to only complete 20-39 pass attempts on the night. He didn't always exhibit his best mechanics, he was behind his receivers at times (first INT), and overthrew them badly on several occasions (2nd INT).

His low point was Penn State's very last play where they were facing 2nd-and-1. The play call was for a deep sideline pass. The target wasn't open. Instead of tucking the ball and running for the first down, or throwing the ball away, or simply eating it, Drew made the (horrible) decision to force a throw in a situation where no force was necessary resulting in a game ending interception.

Bad:

-I hate blaming the officials. I think it's cheap, and it's excusing your team for not playing well. That said, this was the worst officiated game I've ever seen, and that includes the 2002 Michigan game. This was the kind of game that fuels conspiracy theories.

How are there zero calls for holding Abdul Carter when he was held on almost every snap? How is a personal foul not called on Oregon when a defender is clearly roughing Drew Allar after the play? How is a clear catch ruled incomplete? How is offensive pass interference not called on a TE who flagrantly shoves off his defender as he cuts to get open? How is pass interference not called on defensive backs who are visibly clutching fistfuls of jerseys before the ball arrives? How is holding not called when Nick Singleton is grabbed from behind by a falling defender, preventing Nick from cleanly running his route, and resulting in an "incomplete" pass? How is Tracy's non-fair catch ruled a fair catch when his arm didn't go above his shoulder? "Oh, he faked everyone out, so we have to penalize him for being smarter than everyone else,"?

The refs were embarrassing, and James Franklin should be apoplectic. One or two missed calls is understandable. A handful of missed calls is bad officiating. An entire game of missed calls is... something else.

-The defense got totally exposed in this game. Tez Johnson "Marvin Harrisoned" the secondary to the tune of 11 catches for 181 yards. And they were just leaving him wide open all night.

Tom Allen was ablee to make adjustments in the second half, limiting the Ducks to just 14 points after the break, but Oregon put 30 points on the board in the first half-- by far the defense's most inept performance of the season.

Yes, they were greatly added by one-sided libertarian officiating, but you can't spend the first half letting them carve you up, and saying, "We'll do something about this later." Later, as it turned out, was too late.

Final analysis:

Penn State has been criticized a lot this season for building its ranking off cupcake opponents, while once again losing its only tough game.

That criticism hasn't always been unfair, particularly when you don't play aggressively against a beatable Ohio State squad.

But on Saturday night, Penn State lost to the #1 team in the country... while hanging 37 points on them, and holding Oregon's vaunted offense to just 7 points in each of the final two quarters.

This team probably isn't the best in the country. But they showed on Saturday that can play a very imperfect game, and have the officials against them, and still compete with anyone.

Saturday's loss wasn't the result any of us wanted, but the biggest prize -- the only prize that really matters -- is still up for grabs. Let's lick our wounds and on December 21, the Nittany Lions feast on mustang!

We Are...!
 

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Warren looks like a guy who has a lot of mileage on him at this point in the year. Seemed tired, can’t blame him since he is the entire passing game.

our o line is really not getting a ton of praise and they should. That unit stuck for years, and suddenly they are running over an elite d line with two whales in the middle. There is a good amount of quality depth behind them as well.

If they are not calling holding, move Carter back to LB and just let him tee off on RBs or blitz from there. Having him stand across from a 300 pound tackle who just wraps him up on every play seems… unlikely to succeed very often. Maybe create some separation ?

I would have liked to have seen the freshmen RB from Wisconsin get a few runs in. Kid is fast. Perhaps a little lightning to change things up from singleton and Allen’s thunder. Otherwise these guys absolutely hung in there with a mercenary team that’s either 1 or 2 in the country. Nothing to be ashamed of.
 

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Just got back from the multi day/hour road trip as many on here posting actual game thoughts--- here are some side thoughts

1) Have to say crowd seemed 70-30 Psu favor
a) that being said NOT ONE MAKE SOME NOIZE sample and the crowd KNEW WHEN to get loud ..... imagine that??
(THATS A BIG NOTE TO ANY BEAVER STADIUM OPS PEOPLE reading this board TAKE ******* NOTE grasshopper, on what a game experience should be EG: the GAME ITSELF -- yeah there was a smattering of music but not overbearing

b) that being said --- in the WTF category-- WE boo their band???? No Class.... period... They are kids playing instruments and on a big stage good for those students to make the trip and represent their school

2) How do you have Dr Pepper half time stuff and ads during the game but no Dr Pepper for sale in the stadium? :unsure: (already had my fill of Alcohol needed something else as I was driving)
a) Glad that young lady took the Duke douche to the cleaners in the contest, she probably needed the dough way more than him

3)ok slight game note in the PET PEEVE category...at what point do we get rid of the look at me struts when we actually make a tackle?

a)Um that team almost put a 'FITY' burger on ya

b) Tackling is your job...could you imagine going into the office on Monday send your first email of the day and dance up and down the aisles as if you did somthin great? Or go to class and pump your fist when they take attendance?

c) How about the 4-5 plays where the prancing and dancing occurred behind the Oregon line of scrimmage?

i) note to self the player get your head in the game ---they run hurry up and we were caught trying to get back--- instead of already being back and getting ready for the next play with signals...---instead disarray ensued, very late in getting set and not each each team member got the signal call by time of snap... they caught us EVERYTIME

4) Big Ten Fanfest area in Conv Center decent setup but did the PSU merch look like... well .... just junk or lack of choice? (due to the fact the invite was last minute maybe) Oregon seemed to have a better selection

5)State of Indiana needs an a$$ kicking for the state of their roadways --- and that's coming from a PA resident

6) Confused as to why I saw fans wearing OSU, scUM, Tennessee gear?

7)Despite the loss always a good time to spend it with your family.
 

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Just got back from the multi day/hour road trip as many on here posting actual game thoughts--- here are some side thoughts

1) Have to say crowd seemed 70-30 Psu favor
a) that being said NOT ONE MAKE SOME NOIZE sample and the crowd KNEW WHEN to get loud ..... imagine that??
(THATS A BIG NOTE TO ANY BEAVER STADIUM OPS PEOPLE reading this board TAKE ******* NOTE grasshopper, on what a game experience should be EG: the GAME ITSELF -- yeah there was a smattering of music but not overbearing

b) that being said --- in the WTF category-- WE boo their band???? No Class.... period... They are kids playing instruments and on a big stage good for those students to make the trip and represent their school

2) How do you have Dr Pepper half time stuff and ads during the game but no Dr Pepper for sale in the stadium? :unsure: (already had my fill of Alcohol needed something else as I was driving)
a) Glad that young lady took the Duke douche to the cleaners in the contest, she probably needed the dough way more than him

3)ok slight game note in the PET PEEVE category...at what point do we get rid of the look at me struts when we actually make a tackle?

a)Um that team almost put a 'FITY' burger on ya

b) Tackling is your job...could you imagine going into the office on Monday send your first email of the day and dance up and down the aisles as if you did somthin great? Or go to class and pump your fist when they take attendance?

c) How about the 4-5 plays where the prancing and dancing occurred behind the Oregon line of scrimmage?

i) note to self the player get your head in the game ---they run hurry up and we were caught trying to get back--- instead of already being back and getting ready for the next play with signals...---instead disarray ensued, very late in getting set and not each each team member got the signal call by time of snap... they caught us EVERYTIME

4) Big Ten Fanfest area in Conv Center decent setup but did the PSU merch look like... well .... just junk or lack of choice? (due to the fact the invite was last minute maybe) Oregon seemed to have a better selection

5)State of Indiana needs an a$$ kicking for the state of their roadways --- and that's coming from a PA resident

6) Confused as to why I saw fans wearing OSU, scUM, Tennessee gear?

7)Despite the loss always a good time to spend it with your family.
I agree. Warren had a pedestrian game. Catch the 3Q pass for a TD and the complexion of the game is quite different. I am glad he wears blue and white, but it was average last night
 
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Good:

-Rushing game looked strong with Singleton and Allen both going over the century mark, and each posting big runs of 30+ yards.

-Generally good offensive play calling all night that created opportunity, and consistently moved the ball. Penn State played aggressively and was able to hang with the #1 team in the country: the exact opposite of what they did against Ohio State where they played scared. This offensive scheme easily wins the Nov. 2 game against the Buckeyes.

Middling:

-It's hard to say that Tyler Warren had a bad game when he notched 7 catches for 87 yards. But he did have a bad drop on a very easy catch. He also ran the ball twice to no effect, and while the 2pca was a bizarre call, Warren wasn't even able to force a throw and give them a chance. He didn't have a BAD game, but it was far from his best game, which is what we needed.

-Drew Allar's weaknesses as a QB were on display in this game. At times, he made surgical throws, and delivered in clutch situations, notably on a late 4th and 10 that kept Penn State's hopes alive-- possibly the greatest play he's ever made, as he was in the process of being sacked.

Still, when all was said and done, Oregon brought pressure, which caused Drew to only complete 20-39 pass attempts on the night. He didn't always exhibit his best mechanics, he was behind his receivers at times (first INT), and overthrew them badly on several occasions (2nd INT).

His low point was Penn State's very last play where they were facing 2nd-and-1. The play call was for a deep sideline pass. The target wasn't open. Instead of tucking the ball and running for the first down, or throwing the ball away, or simply eating it, Drew made the (horrible) decision to force a throw in a situation where no force was necessary resulting in a game ending interception.

Bad:

-I hate blaming the officials. I think it's cheap, and it's excusing your team for not playing well. That said, this was the worst officiated game I've ever seen, and that includes the 2002 Michigan game. This was the kind of game that fuels conspiracy theories.

How are there zero calls for holding Abdul Carter when he was held on almost every snap? How is a personal foul not called on Oregon when a defender is clearly roughing Drew Allar after the play? How is a clear catch ruled incomplete? How is offensive pass interference not called on a TE who flagrantly shoves off his defender as he cuts to get open? How is pass interference not called on defensive backs who are visibly clutching fistfuls of jerseys before the ball arrives? How is holding not called when Nick Singleton is grabbed from behind by a falling defender, preventing Nick from cleanly running his route, and resulting in an "incomplete" pass? How is Tracy's non-fair catch ruled a fair catch when his arm didn't go above his shoulder? "Oh, he faked everyone out, so we have to penalize him for being smarter than everyone else,"?

The refs were embarrassing, and James Franklin should be apoplectic. One or two missed calls is understandable. A handful of missed calls is bad officiating. An entire game of missed calls is... something else.

-The defense got totally exposed in this game. Tez Johnson "Marvin Harrisoned" the secondary to the tune of 11 catches for 181 yards. And they were just leaving him wide open all night.

Tom Allen was ablee to make adjustments in the second half, limiting the Ducks to just 14 points after the break, but Oregon put 30 points on the board in the first half-- by far the defense's most inept performance of the season.

Yes, they were greatly added by one-sided libertarian officiating, but you can't spend the first half letting them carve you up, and saying, "We'll do something about this later." Later, as it turned out, was too late.

Final analysis:

Penn State has been criticized a lot this season for building its ranking off cupcake opponents, while once again losing its only tough game.

That criticism hasn't always been unfair, particularly when you don't play aggressively against a beatable Ohio State squad.

But on Saturday night, Penn State lost to the #1 team in the country... while hanging 37 points on them, and holding Oregon's vaunted offense to just 7 points in each of the final two quarters.

This team probably isn't the best in the country. But they showed on Saturday that can play a very imperfect game, and have the officials against them, and still compete with anyone.

Saturday's loss wasn't the result any of us wanted, but the biggest prize -- the only prize that really matters -- is still up for grabs. Let's lick our wounds and on December 21, the Nittany Lions feast on mustang!

We Are...!
On the Warren point, he looked a little sluggish. I think the week off will do him a lot of good. That said, a better pass from Allar when he was clear for a TD down the middle of the field and it’s a different game.
 

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Just got back from the multi day/hour road trip as many on here posting actual game thoughts--- here are some side thoughts

1) Have to say crowd seemed 70-30 Psu favor
a) that being said NOT ONE MAKE SOME NOIZE sample and the crowd KNEW WHEN to get loud ..... imagine that??
(THATS A BIG NOTE TO ANY BEAVER STADIUM OPS PEOPLE reading this board TAKE ******* NOTE grasshopper, on what a game experience should be EG: the GAME ITSELF -- yeah there was a smattering of music but not overbearing

b) that being said --- in the WTF category-- WE boo their band???? No Class.... period... They are kids playing instruments and on a big stage good for those students to make the trip and represent their school

2) How do you have Dr Pepper half time stuff and ads during the game but no Dr Pepper for sale in the stadium? :unsure: (already had my fill of Alcohol needed something else as I was driving)
a) Glad that young lady took the Duke douche to the cleaners in the contest, she probably needed the dough way more than him

3)ok slight game note in the PET PEEVE category...at what point do we get rid of the look at me struts when we actually make a tackle?

a)Um that team almost put a 'FITY' burger on ya

b) Tackling is your job...could you imagine going into the office on Monday send your first email of the day and dance up and down the aisles as if you did somthin great? Or go to class and pump your fist when they take attendance?

c) How about the 4-5 plays where the prancing and dancing occurred behind the Oregon line of scrimmage?

i) note to self the player get your head in the game ---they run hurry up and we were caught trying to get back--- instead of already being back and getting ready for the next play with signals...---instead disarray ensued, very late in getting set and not each each team member got the signal call by time of snap... they caught us EVERYTIME

4) Big Ten Fanfest area in Conv Center decent setup but did the PSU merch look like... well .... just junk or lack of choice? (due to the fact the invite was last minute maybe) Oregon seemed to have a better selection

5)State of Indiana needs an a$$ kicking for the state of their roadways --- and that's coming from a PA resident

6) Confused as to why I saw fans wearing OSU, scUM, Tennessee gear?

7)Despite the loss always a good time to spend it with your family.
I find Indiana to be the best driving in the country, though I-265 (or is it 465? I can’t remember) is always a mess. They drive with a purpose and tend to move over even from the left lane if you’re coming up on them and going faster.
 

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I agree. Warren had a pedestrian game. Catch the 3Q pass for a TD and the complexion of the game is quite different. I am glad he wears blue and white, but it was average last night
He’s probably exhausted from carrying the WR/TE rooms on his back.
 
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I find Indiana to be the best driving in the country, though I-265 (or is it 465? I can’t remember) is always a mess. They drive with a purpose and tend to move over even from the left lane if you’re coming up on them and going faster.
not their driving---- the actual condition of the roads I70 in particular a disaster

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Just got back from the multi day/hour road trip as many on here posting actual game thoughts--- here are some side thoughts

1) Have to say crowd seemed 70-30 Psu favor
a) that being said NOT ONE MAKE SOME NOIZE sample and the crowd KNEW WHEN to get loud ..... imagine that??
(THATS A BIG NOTE TO ANY BEAVER STADIUM OPS PEOPLE reading this board TAKE ******* NOTE grasshopper, on what a game experience should be EG: the GAME ITSELF -- yeah there was a smattering of music but not overbearing

b) that being said --- in the WTF category-- WE boo their band???? No Class.... period... They are kids playing instruments and on a big stage good for those students to make the trip and represent their school

2) How do you have Dr Pepper half time stuff and ads during the game but no Dr Pepper for sale in the stadium? :unsure: (already had my fill of Alcohol needed something else as I was driving)
a) Glad that young lady took the Duke douche to the cleaners in the contest, she probably needed the dough way more than him

3)ok slight game note in the PET PEEVE category...at what point do we get rid of the look at me struts when we actually make a tackle?

a)Um that team almost put a 'FITY' burger on ya

b) Tackling is your job...could you imagine going into the office on Monday send your first email of the day and dance up and down the aisles as if you did somthin great? Or go to class and pump your fist when they take attendance?

c) How about the 4-5 plays where the prancing and dancing occurred behind the Oregon line of scrimmage?

i) note to self the player get your head in the game ---they run hurry up and we were caught trying to get back--- instead of already being back and getting ready for the next play with signals...---instead disarray ensued, very late in getting set and not each each team member got the signal call by time of snap... they caught us EVERYTIME

4) Big Ten Fanfest area in Conv Center decent setup but did the PSU merch look like... well .... just junk or lack of choice? (due to the fact the invite was last minute maybe) Oregon seemed to have a better selection

5)State of Indiana needs an a$$ kicking for the state of their roadways --- and that's coming from a PA resident

6) Confused as to why I saw fans wearing OSU, scUM, Tennessee gear?

7)Despite the loss always a good time to spend it with your family.
I'm with you on this ridiculous showboating after making a stop or play on 1st or 2nd down. Oregon exploited that nonsense several times and extended their drives. The defense is undisciplined and that falls on the coaches for allowing it to continue.
Seems there is no accountability for this behavior.
 

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I'm with you on this ridiculous showboating after making a stop or play on 1st or 2nd down. Oregon exploited that nonsense several times and extended their drives. The defense is undisciplined and that falls on the coaches for allowing it to continue.
Seems there is no accountability for this behavior.
This is why Joe didn’t tolerate this nonsense. Joe wasn’t always liked by current players, but after they graduated they grew to appreciate the lessons learned .
 

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Nobody asked me, but my thoughts:

I was happy with the approach of the offense. Thought they were aggressive. Defensive strategy didn’t work. Middle of the field was wide open. Learn and improve. Could be a lot of season left.

Offense
QB
Thought Allar was really good. 2 passes that didn’t work out. Wish he would’ve thrown the last one away when he saw double coverage.
RB Fantastic all night
OL Really played well against the “nation’s best front 7”
TE Warren had 7 catches for 84 yards. Off night? Testament to how great he has been
WR Still think Wallace & Evans could make the next step. Wishful thinking?

Defense
DL
Battled
LB King plays hard. Rojas needs to take a step. Defense was better with DeLuca on the field
CB Tracy could be special. Harris really good. Miller stepped up
S Struggled. Reed seems to be a step off last 3 games. Wheatley was quiet.
Outside wasn't the problem. Inside was.

Special Teams
Singleton & Tracy are legitimate return threats
Need to find a better punter going forward
Wish I had more confidence in the place kicking

Team & Coaching staff deserves a lot of credit for hanging in. Down 18 to #1 and had a chance to tie on the last possession. Obvious issues with the defensive game plan.

Time to learn, adjust and move forward. Great possibilities ahead. No sense of thinking about Boise in Arizona. Need to take care of an SMU team who will be hearing a lot of “you don’t belong” between now and 12/21. Hoping the team prepares and plays with a chip on its shoulder. Lot of “you didn't earn your seed” nonsense concerning PSU out there also.
 

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Good:

-Rushing game looked strong with Singleton and Allen both going over the century mark, and each posting big runs of 30+ yards.

-Generally good offensive play calling all night that created opportunity, and consistently moved the ball. Penn State played aggressively and was able to hang with the #1 team in the country: the exact opposite of what they did against Ohio State where they played scared. This offensive scheme easily wins the Nov. 2 game against the Buckeyes.

Middling:

-It's hard to say that Tyler Warren had a bad game when he notched 7 catches for 87 yards. But he did have a bad drop on a very easy catch. He also ran the ball twice to no effect, and while the 2pca was a bizarre call, Warren wasn't even able to force a throw and give them a chance. He didn't have a BAD game, but it was far from his best game, which is what we needed.

-Drew Allar's weaknesses as a QB were on display in this game. At times, he made surgical throws, and delivered in clutch situations, notably on a late 4th and 10 that kept Penn State's hopes alive-- possibly the greatest play he's ever made, as he was in the process of being sacked.

Still, when all was said and done, Oregon brought pressure, which caused Drew to only complete 20-39 pass attempts on the night. He didn't always exhibit his best mechanics, he was behind his receivers at times (first INT), and overthrew them badly on several occasions (2nd INT).

His low point was Penn State's very last play where they were facing 2nd-and-1. The play call was for a deep sideline pass. The target wasn't open. Instead of tucking the ball and running for the first down, or throwing the ball away, or simply eating it, Drew made the (horrible) decision to force a throw in a situation where no force was necessary resulting in a game ending interception.

Bad:

-I hate blaming the officials. I think it's cheap, and it's excusing your team for not playing well. That said, this was the worst officiated game I've ever seen, and that includes the 2002 Michigan game. This was the kind of game that fuels conspiracy theories.

How are there zero calls for holding Abdul Carter when he was held on almost every snap? How is a personal foul not called on Oregon when a defender is clearly roughing Drew Allar after the play? How is a clear catch ruled incomplete? How is offensive pass interference not called on a TE who flagrantly shoves off his defender as he cuts to get open? How is pass interference not called on defensive backs who are visibly clutching fistfuls of jerseys before the ball arrives? How is holding not called when Nick Singleton is grabbed from behind by a falling defender, preventing Nick from cleanly running his route, and resulting in an "incomplete" pass? How is Tracy's non-fair catch ruled a fair catch when his arm didn't go above his shoulder? "Oh, he faked everyone out, so we have to penalize him for being smarter than everyone else,"?

The refs were embarrassing, and James Franklin should be apoplectic. One or two missed calls is understandable. A handful of missed calls is bad officiating. An entire game of missed calls is... something else.

-The defense got totally exposed in this game. Tez Johnson "Marvin Harrisoned" the secondary to the tune of 11 catches for 181 yards. And they were just leaving him wide open all night.

Tom Allen was ablee to make adjustments in the second half, limiting the Ducks to just 14 points after the break, but Oregon put 30 points on the board in the first half-- by far the defense's most inept performance of the season.

Yes, they were greatly added by one-sided libertarian officiating, but you can't spend the first half letting them carve you up, and saying, "We'll do something about this later." Later, as it turned out, was too late.

Final analysis:

Penn State has been criticized a lot this season for building its ranking off cupcake opponents, while once again losing its only tough game.

That criticism hasn't always been unfair, particularly when you don't play aggressively against a beatable Ohio State squad.

But on Saturday night, Penn State lost to the #1 team in the country... while hanging 37 points on them, and holding Oregon's vaunted offense to just 7 points in each of the final two quarters.

This team probably isn't the best in the country. But they showed on Saturday that can play a very imperfect game, and have the officials against them, and still compete with anyone.

Saturday's loss wasn't the result any of us wanted, but the biggest prize -- the only prize that really matters -- is still up for grabs. Let's lick our wounds and on December 21, the Nittany Lions feast on mustang!

We Are...!

Nice summary - wanted to add that Nolan Rucci really stepped up. Was Allar sacked at all last night? Beleive he wasn’t. Pribula was sacked once.
 

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Nobody asked me, but my thoughts:

I was happy with the approach of the offense. Thought they were aggressive. Defensive strategy didn’t work. Middle of the field was wide open. Learn and improve. Could be a lot of season left.

Offense
QB
Thought Allar was really good. 2 passes that didn’t work out. Wish he would’ve thrown the last one away when he saw double coverage.
RB Fantastic all night
OL Really played well against the “nation’s best front 7”
TE Warren had 7 catches for 84 yards. Off night? Testament to how great he has been
WR Still think Wallace & Evans could make the next step. Wishful thinking?

Defense
DL
Battled
LB King plays hard. Rojas needs to take a step. Defense was better with DeLuca on the field
CB Tracy could be special. Harris really good. Miller stepped up
S Struggled. Reed seems to be a step off last 3 games. Wheatley was quiet.
Outside wasn't the problem. Inside was.

Special Teams
Singleton & Tracy are legitimate return threats
Need to find a better punter going forward
Wish I had more confidence in the place kicking

Team & Coaching staff deserves a lot of credit for hanging in. Down 18 to #1 and had a chance to tie on the last possession. Obvious issues with the defensive game plan.

Time to learn, adjust and move forward. Great possibilities ahead. No sense of thinking about Boise in Arizona. Need to take care of an SMU team who will be hearing a lot of “you don’t belong” between now and 12/21. Hoping the team prepares and plays with a chip on its shoulder. Lot of “you didn't earn your seed” nonsense concerning PSU out there also.
When tOSU lost and we wound up in the BIG CCG, some of our players (i.e. Jaylen Reed) indicated they were looking forward to the 3 week break. We are still beat up and some of the missing players are forcing a heavier workload on the remaining players. Just a few weeks ago we were solid at DT with 5 guys who could rotate. Now we have 3 and are reaching for players in the next level, and even some of them are injured (i.e. Artis). At LB just watch Tony Rojas close and compare his tackling to last year. Something is off and he is not completely wrapping.
 
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I'm with you on this ridiculous showboating after making a stop or play on 1st or 2nd down. Oregon exploited that nonsense several times and extended their drives. The defense is undisciplined and that falls on the coaches for allowing it to continue.
Seems there is no accountability for this behavior.
This is a pet peeve of mine. You are fecking losing, why are you celebrating one fecking play, get back in the huddle and get ready for the next play. Celebrate when you win.
 

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Just got back from the multi day/hour road trip as many on here posting actual game thoughts--- here are some side thoughts

1) Have to say crowd seemed 70-30 Psu favor
a) that being said NOT ONE MAKE SOME NOIZE sample and the crowd KNEW WHEN to get loud ..... imagine that??
(THATS A BIG NOTE TO ANY BEAVER STADIUM OPS PEOPLE reading this board TAKE ******* NOTE grasshopper, on what a game experience should be EG: the GAME ITSELF -- yeah there was a smattering of music but not overbearing

b) that being said --- in the WTF category-- WE boo their band???? No Class.... period... They are kids playing instruments and on a big stage good for those students to make the trip and represent their school

2) How do you have Dr Pepper half time stuff and ads during the game but no Dr Pepper for sale in the stadium? :unsure: (already had my fill of Alcohol needed something else as I was driving)
a) Glad that young lady took the Duke douche to the cleaners in the contest, she probably needed the dough way more than him

3)ok slight game note in the PET PEEVE category...at what point do we get rid of the look at me struts when we actually make a tackle?

a)Um that team almost put a 'FITY' burger on ya

b) Tackling is your job...could you imagine going into the office on Monday send your first email of the day and dance up and down the aisles as if you did somthin great? Or go to class and pump your fist when they take attendance?

c) How about the 4-5 plays where the prancing and dancing occurred behind the Oregon line of scrimmage?

i) note to self the player get your head in the game ---they run hurry up and we were caught trying to get back--- instead of already being back and getting ready for the next play with signals...---instead disarray ensued, very late in getting set and not each each team member got the signal call by time of snap... they caught us EVERYTIME

4) Big Ten Fanfest area in Conv Center decent setup but did the PSU merch look like... well .... just junk or lack of choice? (due to the fact the invite was last minute maybe) Oregon seemed to have a better selection

5)State of Indiana needs an a$$ kicking for the state of their roadways --- and that's coming from a PA resident

6) Confused as to why I saw fans wearing OSU, scUM, Tennessee gear?

7)Despite the loss always a good time to spend it with your family.
Not a fan of booing at all. Just remain silent.

Going out I-70 as soon we crossed into Indiana the roads sucked, worse than PA roads.

Saw fans from a lot of diff colleges, OSU fans already had tickets and went to game anyway, they were cheering for us(at least that is what they told us), some midwesterners went to the game for something to do because it was an easy drive for them.

Overall it was a great experience, stayed at a VRBO about a mile from the stadium and felt safe walking to and from(there seemed to be many others that did the same because there were lots of folks walking back to the Bates-Hendricks neighborhood after the game with us). Got to see Joey Chestnut down 21 pounds of St Elmo Shrimp Cocktail which was an added bonus to the trip. Lucas Oil Stadium seems like a great place to watch a football game but we had very good seats behind the Penn State endzone. Our boys almost pulled it off, just need to clean it up some and we can go toe to toe with any team in the nation. Franklin is close to getting us over the top, I believe he can get it done. If you're not winning you're learning.
 
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On the Warren point, he looked a little sluggish. I think the week off will do him a lot of good. That said, a better pass from Allar when he was clear for a TD down the middle of the field and it’s a different game.
Also, I would think every team would now be keying on him so he may not be getting the same opportunities he had in the early half of the season especially when we get to the better coached teams.
 
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Notice the ahole ref made sure he said something to Tracy about his celebration (which was minimal), but didn't bother throwing the flag.

I wonder if the ref was so impressed with Tracy's TFL that he momentarily forgot to throw the flag - I'm serious.

I mean…

 
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In a game such as this, where the officiating was so ridiculously biased, as a coach, after Oregon's "interception" made possible by an uncalled pass interference, I would have pulled the team off the field. That would have been my Fu#k you to the officiating crew and The BIG. Optics, ramifications. Who cares? Enough of this sh#t.
 
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A lot of excellent responses. Let me try to address a couple of them:

1. Yes, the O-line play was not properly recognized by me in my "good" category. This unit got manhandled the last couple of years, and they absolutely bullied Oregon on Saturday, and allowed the RBs to roll up almost 300 yards. Our O-line is a very solid and underappreciated unit.

2. Booing an opposing team's band is classless on the order of planting your flag on an opponent's field after a win. It's disgraceful, and that's not what I want to see from fellow Penn Staters.

3. The team's emotional state has been erratic all season, and is one of the hallmarks of the coaching staff's inability to properly instill discipline.

Making a TFL and celebrating in a game where you are trailing for almost a full 60 minutes is pathetic. How about some professionalism? You're LOSING. Celebrate after the job is complete, not after one snap.

This was also the case in the Ohio State game. They're losing, and then they'd make one good play and flip out like they just hit a progressive jackpot on a penny slot.

It's absolutely a problem, and it's the same problem that led to them committing 4 personal fouls in the first GD quarter!

4. A number of people noted that Warren maybe looked a bit sluggish. Yeah, that's a fair assessment. He's been carrying the offense on his back all season, so maybe he's a bit sore.

I agree he did look a step slower, less dynamic than we're accustomed to seeing him. Hopefully the week off will do him well. Maybe we should send him a shiatsu massager from the Sharper Image.

-One thing I didn't mention was that PSU potentially left 17 points on the field. Two picks thrown by Allar on absolutely ABYSMAL reads/throws, and a missed FGA by Barker.

😬 That's the game, right there. They could have slipped on one of those banana peels, plus all the PFs, and the refs pulling for Oregon, and still won. But they couldn't absorb all three.

Bottom line: Oregon played a mistake-free game, and we didn't, and that was the difference.
 
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Warren looks like a guy who has a lot of mileage on him at this point in the year. Seemed tired, can’t blame him since he is the entire passing game.

our o line is really not getting a ton of praise and they should. That unit stuck for years, and suddenly they are running over an elite d line with two whales in the middle. There is a good amount of quality depth behind them as well.

If they are not calling holding, move Carter back to LB and just let him tee off on RBs or blitz from there. Having him stand across from a 300 pound tackle who just wraps him up on every play seems… unlikely to succeed very often. Maybe create some separation ?

I would have liked to have seen the freshmen RB from Wisconsin get a few runs in. Kid is fast. Perhaps a little lightning to change things up from singleton and Allen’s thunder. Otherwise these guys absolutely hung in there with a mercenary team that’s either 1 or 2 in the country. Nothing to be ashamed of.
10000% on Warren. Some of his route running looked really slow. He looked tired and sluggish at times. It has been a long year of him carrying the offense and it is wearing him down. He needs the rest and I am sure he will get it the next 2 weeks. After that the games are every 8-10 days so he better rest now because they will need him and they will need the best version of him.
 

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10000% on Warren. Some of his route running looked really slow. He looked tired and sluggish at times. It has been a long year of him carrying the offense and it is wearing him down. He needs the rest and I am sure he will get it the next 2 weeks. After that the games are every 8-10 days so he better rest now because they will need him and they will need the best version of him.
I am hoping 2 weeks off will give him some jump back in his legs and allow other positions to get healthy and rest up i.e. Dline.
 

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Just got back from the multi day/hour road trip as many on here posting actual game thoughts--- here are some side thoughts

1) Have to say crowd seemed 70-30 Psu favor
a) that being said NOT ONE MAKE SOME NOIZE sample and the crowd KNEW WHEN to get loud ..... imagine that??
(THATS A BIG NOTE TO ANY BEAVER STADIUM OPS PEOPLE reading this board TAKE ******* NOTE grasshopper, on what a game experience should be EG: the GAME ITSELF -- yeah there was a smattering of music but not overbearing

b) that being said --- in the WTF category-- WE boo their band???? No Class.... period... They are kids playing instruments and on a big stage good for those students to make the trip and represent their school

2) How do you have Dr Pepper half time stuff and ads during the game but no Dr Pepper for sale in the stadium? :unsure: (already had my fill of Alcohol needed something else as I was driving)
a) Glad that young lady took the Duke douche to the cleaners in the contest, she probably needed the dough way more than him

3)ok slight game note in the PET PEEVE category...at what point do we get rid of the look at me struts when we actually make a tackle?

a)Um that team almost put a 'FITY' burger on ya

b) Tackling is your job...could you imagine going into the office on Monday send your first email of the day and dance up and down the aisles as if you did somthin great? Or go to class and pump your fist when they take attendance?

c) How about the 4-5 plays where the prancing and dancing occurred behind the Oregon line of scrimmage?

i) note to self the player get your head in the game ---they run hurry up and we were caught trying to get back--- instead of already being back and getting ready for the next play with signals...---instead disarray ensued, very late in getting set and not each each team member got the signal call by time of snap... they caught us EVERYTIME

4) Big Ten Fanfest area in Conv Center decent setup but did the PSU merch look like... well .... just junk or lack of choice? (due to the fact the invite was last minute maybe) Oregon seemed to have a better selection

5)State of Indiana needs an a$$ kicking for the state of their roadways --- and that's coming from a PA resident

6) Confused as to why I saw fans wearing OSU, scUM, Tennessee gear?

7)Despite the loss always a good time to spend it with your family.
wow sounds like you a pretty miserable time, sorry. My son and I had a blast despite the loss in a very entertaining game. Will go back to Indy next time we are in the game, nice city and venue.