Programs not being held down by NIL

ckDOG

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Thought this was interesting. Unusual suspects doing well in an era we all mostly cry about being unfair. Without looking at their rosters, my guess is these teams have veteran rosters with little turnover.

Anyone aware of any stats or data that exists that evaluate that by program? We may be quickly entering an era where experience and team rapport are more valuable than the talent you can access by throwing money at it. Talent is great, but only if it all pulls in the same direction. Much harder to do that with a high roster turnover EVERY year.

Or maybe they all just have easy schedules.

 
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8dog

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Thought this was interesting. Unusual suspects doing well in an era we all mostly cry about being unfair. Without looking at their rosters, my guess is these teams have veteran rosters with little turnover.

Anyone aware of any stats or data that exists that evaluate that by program? We may be quickly entering an era where experience and team rapport are more valuable than the talent you can access by throwing money at it. Talent is great, but only if it all pulls in the same direction. Much harder to do that with a high roster turnover EVERY year.

Or maybe they all just have easy schedules.


I’d say without a ton of research except Indiana A. They are playing teams with roughly the same amount of talent or worse so NIL isn’t just an huge issue and B. Coaching still matters.
 

patdog

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I’d say without a ton of research except Indiana A. They are playing teams with roughly the same amount of talent or worse so NIL isn’t just an huge issue and B. Coaching still matters.
Also, Indiana has played 0 ranked teams so far. And won't until Nov. 9.
 
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Thought this was interesting. Unusual suspects doing well in an era we all mostly cry about being unfair. Without looking at their rosters, my guess is these teams have veteran rosters with little turnover.

Anyone aware of any stats or data that exists that evaluate that by program? We may be quickly entering an era where experience and team rapport are more valuable than the talent you can access by throwing money at it. Talent is great, but only if it all pulls in the same direction. Much harder to do that with a high roster turnover EVERY year.

Or maybe they all just have easy schedules.


I noticed that zero of these schools were in the SEC...
 

msugolf

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Thought this was interesting. Unusual suspects doing well in an era we all mostly cry about being unfair. Without looking at their rosters, my guess is these teams have veteran rosters with little turnover.

Anyone aware of any stats or data that exists that evaluate that by program? We may be quickly entering an era where experience and team rapport are more valuable than the talent you can access by throwing money at it. Talent is great, but only if it all pulls in the same direction. Much harder to do that with a high roster turnover EVERY year.

Or maybe they all just have easy schedules.


Indiana brought in 31 transfers, 13 of them were from James Madison at his previous school, coming off their best season in program history. So they knew the coach and the system.
 

WilCoDawg

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We already hired Indiana's coach. ***
So hypothetical here:
Would you hire their coach if it ensured a NC the first year and then in the basement every year after that?
Actually, that would be great bc we’re already in the basement…
 

HotMop

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So hypothetical here:
Would you hire their coach if it ensured a NC the first year and then in the basement every year after that?
Actually, that would be great bc we’re already in the basement…

YES.
 

OG Goat Holder

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Had Mike not died, likely our only loss would have be to number one Tejas.
Such a shame. We finally had that late 50s coach, who would stay a decade plus and not leave us. He had the name cache to bring in players. We were winning.

Alas, as it turned out.......his tenure REALLY exposed our fanbase and has many of us thinking if we even have the potential to ever build a solid program. Mullen did this too.....I'll never forget 2012 and 2013.
 
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