PS is THE WORST coached team in the FBS..period. NFM

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Maybe that’s a bit of hyperbole, but he definitely is not in the top 50% of BCS coaches. Great recruiter, but below average at prepping his team for games and maybe bottom 10% for in-game coaching. The proof is in his record and his team’s performances, especially in critical games.
 

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Nebraska and Scott Frost say, "hold my beer."
You know I was thinking about this. Why is Nebraska terrible? Because they left the easy big twelve conference. Just wait until Texas and Oklahoma join the sec. dumbest decision they ever made!!! Now maybe saban will be retired by then and they have a better chance but they gave up their 1-2 loss season every single year for good.
 
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It was a disappointing season. For sure. Some of our fans are emotionally damaged and in this state lack the ability to logically reason. It's their time to vent in order to get over the pain of the team losing games and CJF getting a ten year contract. Making categorical statements without any argument is a good way to vent. It's the classic logical fallacy of "Appeal to Ignorance." It feels good and helps with healing.
 
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We should have won against Illinois. We should have won against Iowa. We should be 9-3 and going to a decent bowl. But instead we’ll be in an appetizer bowl on Dec 27th or something. Both losses are on the coaches. I don’t know if CV9 was with the team in Iowa, but the fact TR couldn’t string some first downs together by throwing some slants and crossing routes and chew up enough clock to prevent a comeback was pathetic. Clifford playing against Illinois was stupid. CV9 would’ve done more than enough to beat Illinois. Even then, there were about 4 plays that if they were made, the game was over and the played didn’t make them.
 
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I remember a coach that said don’t worry about the players you don’t get just worry about coaching up the ones you do get. He made a career out of coaching up 3 and 4 star kids in to winners. Well they say we are getting great players every year so that tells me it’s the coaching staff that’s failing the team.
 
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Maybe that’s a bit of hyperbole, but he definitely is not in the top 50% of BCS coaches. Great recruiter, but below average at prepping his team for games and maybe bottom 10% for in-game coaching. The proof is in his record and his team’s performances, especially in critical games.
I agree and have further concerns that his great recruiting may suffer as a result of his weaknesses. Then the program is in serious trouble.
 
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Maybe that’s a bit of hyperbole, but he definitely is not in the top 50% of BCS coaches. Great recruiter, but below average at prepping his team for games and maybe bottom 10% for in-game coaching. The proof is in his record and his team’s performances, especially in critical games.
If he is such a great recruiter why dose PSU only 4 1st round picks in 8 years. Bama has 4 to 6 1st round picks a year. Maybe he is not such a great recruiter either.
 

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Well.. Back in '04 the coach then... What the heck was his name? Anyway, he said... We are two or three playmakers away from being a really, really good team. In '05 he got the players he needed. The result was a 12-1 season. I feel the same way right now. We are two or three playmakers away from being a really, really good team. They are arriving in January. It will be nine seasons next fall under this regime and IMHO there are no more valid excuses. It's time to put up or shut up. I hoped for CJF back in 2014, and I want him to succeed badly. I've been beyond patient and still think this program can be turned around by CJF. That said... His act is wearing thin and my patience is beginning to run out.
 

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Apologists, can you name any football fundamentals where Penn State has improved under Franklin ???

Blocking, tackling, pass coverage, third downs, special teams??

A long time ago someone from Vanderbilt posted on this board “be careful what you wish for”

How right that poster was.
Not an apologist, I happen to think that Franklin has his job cut out for him, he has a lot to work on and not sure if he's up to the task.
That said, I think your fundamentals question paints with too wide a brush.
Defense as a unit really was a pleasant surprise this season, especially the secondary. Most of the lack in fundamentals can be attributed to individual players (particular tackling technique, pass interference of a few players). Not saying it's not an issue but in some cases it seems more related to individual player development.
On the other hand some units like the oline seem to be struggling as a unit where position coaching/fundamentals are more of a legitimate question.
 

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Please look no further than Rutgers.
2016-2019 (13 wins in four seasons)
2020-2021 (8 wins)

NJ residents are indirectly paying via tuition just under 5mil annually for a coach who just finished 3-9 and 5-7 respectively. Next year the honeymoon is over!
 

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I like Franklin, and I think he's the right guy for the job. Time will tell if that's right or wrong.

What I know is that PSU is NOT " THE WORST coached team in the FBS..period." And that only a complete idiot would make such a statement- or support it.
I notice Nitt1300 resorts to name calling rather quickly, (product of his environment) but he never answered the question posed above. I wonder…who’s the real “idiot”.
 
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I like Franklin, and I think he's the right guy for the job. Time will tell if that's right or wrong.

What I know is that PSU is NOT " THE WORST coached team in the FBS..period." And that only a complete idiot would make such a statement- or support it.
How much time?
 

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That's easy......Auburn......Player runs out of bounds yesterday instead of killing clock.......their Coach has no balls and doesn't go for two with a chance to win on one play (they did not get another chance to win with one play).......and they lost to PSU. So......I think you are wrong......possibly....
 

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I like Franklin, and I think he's the right guy for the job. Time will tell if that's right or wrong.

What I know is that PSU is NOT " THE WORST coached team in the FBS..period." And that only a complete idiot would make such a statement- or support it.
I used to be in your camp. No longer. Not that I agree he's the worst coach in FBS, but I think time has told. What we've seen will be the norm rather than the exception. Personally, I'm not interested in devoting any more time to that sort of mediocrity.
 

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Oh, touché. I’ll make the question even easier (for you) 😉. Name a Power 5 school that makes more coaching mistakes than JF on any given Saturday? Week in week out.
I gave you a long list- pick one.
 

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I used to be in your camp. No longer. Not that I agree he's the worst coach in FBS, but I think time has told. What we've seen will be the norm rather than the exception. Personally, I'm not interested in devoting any more time to that sort of mediocrity.
I understand that opinions on Franklin will vary- it was the original statement that I took issue with- and still do. To suggest that he is the worst coach in the business is simply idiotic.
 

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I understand that opinions on Franklin will vary- it was the original statement that I took issue with- and still do. To suggest that he is the worst coach in the business is simply.

Never ever said he was the worst coach in FBS. I said “PS is worst coached team in FBS”. Two completely different statements.
I understand that opinions on Franklin will vary- it was the original statement that I took issue with- and still do. To suggest that he is the worst coach in the business is simply idiotic.
Again, I never said JF is the worst coach in FBS. I said “PS is the worst coached team”.
 

PSUAVLNC

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Never said JF was the worst coach in FBS. Not even close. I said PS was the worst coached team. Huge difference.
 

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At the end of the season, you are what your record says you are. Coulda, shoulda, woulda don't count.

This coaching staff sucks.
 
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I remember a coach that said don’t worry about the players you don’t get just worry about coaching up the ones you do get. He made a career out of coaching up 3 and 4 star kids in to winners. Well they say we are getting great players every year so that tells me it’s the coaching staff that’s failing the team.
I’ll take the 2 star OL like Iowa, Minn., and Wisc. that have heart and grit. Not this trash with all their stars.
 
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I don't remember our fans calling our own players "trash" even in the depths of the "Joe must go" days.
 
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