Question for Board - The Triple Option

[millsaps05]

I know most people here think that Mullen will be relatively successful here at State, but what if he isn't and he is gone after 3 or 4 years. What should be the next step for a coach here at Mississippi State? I personally think that if the spread fails at State that Bryne should look at hiring a coach that knows how to run the triple option effectively. It doesn't take NFL O-linemen to run the option and there are plenty of athletes to choose from who can be taught how to pitch the ball.

What do you guys think?

 

[millsaps05]

I know most people here think that Mullen will be relatively successful here at State, but what if he isn't and he is gone after 3 or 4 years. What should be the next step for a coach here at Mississippi State? I personally think that if the spread fails at State that Bryne should look at hiring a coach that knows how to run the triple option effectively. It doesn't take NFL O-linemen to run the option and there are plenty of athletes to choose from who can be taught how to pitch the ball.

What do you guys think?

 

[ScoobaDawg]

skip the triple option...
lets go with the Notre Dame box..I mean WE ARE M-S-U
The graveyard of coaches, quarterbacks, and offenses in general...theres your triple option!!!

 

[ckDOG]

But, Good Lord man, table this discussion for a later date.

 

[patdog]

One game into Mullen's career and you're already planning for our next coach. Wow.

 

[millsaps05]

Mullen will more than likely be gone in 3 to 4 years one way or another, so I was just looking at it from the perspective that the spread experiment fails. If he leaves State because he has turned us into a good, competitive program and gets offered the big bucks, then we will stick with the spread.

I was just curious because of this article on SI.com: http://sportsillustrated..../georgia-tech/index.html

 

[McMeat]

so from that perspective, it doesn't matter.

 

[millsaps05]

I want Mullen to succeed at State and be successful for a long time, but he could fail.

 

[cmoore.sixpack]

The mans only had 1 damn game ( and you really cant go to much off of that game being it was our first for the season and his first as head coach) give him a few games and then maybe you can worry bout that but until then just be happy we are 1-0 and could possibly have a good chance of winning the next 2 (I think) with our kinks worked out.

 

[millsaps05]

Where the <17> did I say that I wanted him to fail or that I think that he will. I think State made a good hire and that Mullen has an excellent chance to field quality teams at State. I was just curious what people thought about the triple option and its effectiveness.

 

[Todd4State]

it won't be because his offense failed.

 

[LTblows]

nm

 

[jacksonreb1]

in three or four yrs whether he is successful or not.

 

[AssEndDawg]

in their bowl game? Why in the hell would we buy into a trick offense that anyone can, with some practice, crush? That would be idiotic. If we lose Mullen then I think we need to look for a good coach and let him do what he thinks is best for the offense. This discussion is just stupid.

 

[colodawg]

Consider the poster's alma mater - I presume - is Millsaps.

 

[was21]

that he'll be gone in that time, one way or another....you DON'Treally know that, do you? So why don't you just shut the %#@* up? OR take it to the Mississippi board?

 

[excrementoccurs]

Didn't Georgia get dominated by that same triple option the game before?

 

[Todd4State]

since I'm not at work.

Haven't we done the triple option thing before? Make Emory a memory ring a bell?

First of all- after giving Croom more than enough time to put together an offense, I'm certainly going to give Mullen plenty of time to get his going. Especially since-

A. He has a walk-on midget at QB as option A and a QB that is a So. who while he is improving, is still raw as option B.

B. Only if we hire Paul Johnson as our next HC. The man has mastered the flexbone.

C. Mullen has had one game- without his top offensive weapon in Anthony Dixon.

D. A lot of offenses looked bad this past weekend. Our wasn't really any worse than a lot of teams.

E. I didn't think the offense looked that bad as a whole. Yeah, we could do some things better, but we were functional.

F. Personally, I don't care for the triple option. That's just me. I think the biggest problem with it is what do you do after you stop running it? I think some of GT's o-linemen are rather undersized for a lot of other offenses for example. I think it would be hard to attract a big name QB if you run that offense. That's one reason why a lot of teams went away from the wishbone in the first place. You would have some good RB's though.

G. Our offense's success is not based so much on scheme as it is players. If we had Tim Tebow as our QB, we would be a better team. You can be the best X and O's coach in the world, and if you have a bunch of walk-ons, you're going to lose some games because of your lack of talent. Heck, Auburn went 13-0 running the WCO. Why? Because they had Jason Campbell, Ronnie Brown, and Carnell Williams, among others at their disposal. Great players make an average coach look great. The reason for any suckitude on offense at this present time is because we don't have the players yet. It's as simple as that. We have better coaching now, and that's going to make us better than last year on offense, I have no doubt about that. That's why I would get really fired up if we get Cam Newton. Mullen's offense would be a LOT better with a QB like that, and like I said, I think it could have a similar impact as Snead going to Ole Miss.

 

[OEMDawg]

We've had 100 years of ****** QB play and it's time for something different. There's no comeback ability in the option when the other team is shutting it down. And GT has no answer when the passes aren't even close.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

I remember having this thread everyday for a couple weeks last fall.

 

[Stansfield]

You nerds must really not be able to enjoy a damn game. 99 out of 100 normal fans couldn't tell the difference between the spread, the WCO, the triple option, the wishbone or whatever damn offense a team is playing. Most people see one guy either passing the ball or handing the ball off to another guy who then runs it. ****, enjoy a damn game once and awhile. Let the coaches worry about which offense they are running and just enjoy the action.

 

[MSUCostanza]

Yeah LSU whipped them, but damn.

And don't a lot of people consider Mullen's offense a trick offense? I don't give a **** if its a trick or not if it works. And Tech's works because it is executed perfectly and very well-coached.

 

[sixpackmafia]

cause its damn easy to tell the difference

 

[Stansfield]

I usually don't give a **** what offense they are using.

 

[Stansfield]

I usually don't give a **** what offense they are using.

Also showing my posting ignorance. doubled up

 

[rhs43]

I am excited about the Mullen era, and I liked what I saw against Jackson State so I'm ready for a lot more of this Spread. That being said, I have wondered this same thing in the past, way before the Dan Mullen era. I think it could work, but I'm not wishing for it anytime soon.

 

[Lion O]

I don't think you're this dumb. Maybe you're acting this way to make a point.

 

[millsaps05]

Wow, I would have expected a response like this over at a certain scout board. I never once said I wanted mullen to fail or that the offense looked crappy so far. I actually thought the offense looked pretty darn good for the first game after installing a new offense. Also, I think that we probably only saw about 50 to 60% of what mullen really has in store for the season.

All I wanted to know is what people thought of the triple option in today's game and would you consider running it here at State if the Mullen era doesn't work out as hoped.

Just asking the question isn't going to cause the ruination of the Mullen era. Damn people, chill out. State will lose some games this year, but guess what? The sun will come up, the world will continue to turn, and was21 will still be a dick.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

I agree with the bad timing on the question.

My thoughts were the the triple option would work because so few teams run it now. Therefore defenses are not prepared to defend it like they did in the past. The reason it died was that so many teams were running it, defenses were well prepared to defend it. Therefore it came down to athletic ability and the better athletes would be victorious. I think this is the spread option now. We are getting it later in it's development and it is being seen more often by defenses so it requires you have better athletes than the opponent. The surprise and deception will be less and less effective as more teams run this type of offense.

Hopefully Mullen will be able to add wrinkles to keep the defenses ill prepared for the near future.

 

[was21]

you posted that in an attempt to demoralize....pass on by.

 

[millsaps05]

Wow, so besides being a dick you can read minds! Well congratulations, you figured me out. I went to the trouble of posting a question about the triple option here at State in a subversive attempt to demoralize the entire MSU fanbase (which would include myself). The entire MSU family should throw a parade in your honor for saving them from a devastating case of self-pity and low selfesteem. Once again was21 has saved MSU from words posted on a message board.