Question - what do you think our total football team budget is for NIL for a year?...

[RockyDog]

$69 and some table dances at the Pony

 

[Called3rdstrikedawg]

$1 Drew

Fixt it

 

[engie]

And this is going to hurt some feelings but baseball doesn’t have an ROI so therefore if you are going to give to baseball might as well just burn that money.

How exactly does any of this have a ROI and how does baseball differ in that?

No part of any of this is an actual investment. Just a different way of burning leisure cash.

 

[ZombieKissinger]

$826.31. The $0.31 is my “Oby’s round-up” contribution

What about an initiative credit card? Adds .25 to 1 cents per dollar to purchases and that goes to NIL and counts toward your status. I feel like that’s something I’d be more likely to sign up for and end up paying way more for than a monthly contribution. Is anyone doing that?

 

[ZombieKissinger]

What about an initiative credit card? Adds .25 to 1 cents per dollar to purchases and that goes to NIL and counts toward your status. I feel like that’s something I’d be more likely to sign up for and end up paying way more for than a monthly contribution. Is anyone doing that?

The problem of course is that if it were successful everyone would replicate and there’d be no advantage

 

[CharlieWinfield]

What about an initiative credit card? Adds .25 to 1 cents per dollar to purchases and that goes to NIL and counts toward your status. I feel like that’s something I’d be more likely to sign up for and end up paying way more for than a monthly contribution. Is anyone doing that?

We are talking with a company on that now. Both pre-paid debit and credit cards.

 

[CharlieWinfield]

NIL and transfer portal are out of control. However, there is one thing for me that is well within my control. Until more stability and sense is established, I choose to spend my money elsewhere. IF safeguards are in place when NIL money is promised to a recruit then tell me what they are. Let me know at least a little about what is going on. It seems we are being asked to give $ to something on pure, blind faith. I do not want to know how much a young man is paid but do not understand the lock down secrecy.

I would be happy to talk through any of it with State guys - just don't want to do it on a message board. If you DM me, I will be happy to visit and try to answer as much as I can.

 

[patdog]

I would be happy to talk through any of it with State guys - just don't want to do it on a message board. If you DM me, I will be happy to visit and try to answer as much as I can.

They really don’t want answers. They’re just looking for excuses. Bottom line is, as bad as the NIL/portal world is and as many flaws as it has, it is the world we live in now. Only question is will we compete or will we quit. Our neighbors have chosen to compete.

 

[Bulldawg77]

How exactly does any of this have a ROI and how does baseball differ in that?

No part of any of this is an actual investment. Just a different way of burning leisure cash.

Because as an athletic department we lose money on baseball. It’s a glorified club sport and therefore our investment in MSU athletics from here on should be football and basketball. It’s why I said investing in baseball is the equivalent of burning money. It might hurt some feelings but it’s true. We should be de-emphasizing baseball and putting all financial resources into football and basketball. The landscape of college athletics has changed dramatically and we need to change our ways of thinking.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Because as an athletic department we lose money on baseball. It’s a glorified club sport and therefore our investment in MSU athletics from here on should be football and basketball. It’s why I said investing in baseball is the equivalent of burning money. It might hurt some feelings but it’s true. We should be de-emphasizing baseball and putting all financial resources into football and basketball. The landscape of college athletics has changed dramatically and we need to change our ways of thinking.

Investing is a curious word to throw around college athletics. But if we're going to do it, I'd guess that our baseball program might contribute more to a student's choice to come here than the football or basketball program. Especially if we 'invest' in football/basketball and continue to be in our current place because other schools 'invest' more.

I'll say again that the only way we are going to move football forward is to think differently.

 

[Mr. Cook]

They really don’t want answers. They’re just looking for excuses. Bottom line is, as bad as the NIL/portal world is and as many flaws as it has, it is the world we live in now. Only question is will we compete or will we quit. Our neighbors have chosen to compete.

In everything....while the world passes us by. A low-down, damned dirty shame.

 

[TNDawg1]

In MBK I’m assuming Tolu is getting a healthy %. Not sure how much we forked over to Taylor/ Bell/ JUCO’s but we likely overspent.

 

[PBRME]

Here’s what it takes to compete for titles.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/s/ZLiiWUc4he

 

[paindonthurt]

Why wouldn't we want to know? It's relevant information. But I will couch that with this:


If we don't know how we stack up against our peers, I would agree that it's useless information. Other than just to piss off more fans that hate NIL, when they see how much it is.

But without knowing fact about our donations vs. other SEC teams, it's hard to make good decisions about how to allocate that money. It just turns into a "more more more" situation, which isn't smart or sustainable. I don't know if ADs have this info or not, since the collectives are private.

I would also be curious to see if NIL donations follow the same trends as other athletic donations, as far as how we compare, etc.

I’m sure the people who should know do know.

You shouldn’t know. It does zero good for fans to know.

Just 17ing give.

 

[paindonthurt]

How much are we paying our roster currently? I have no idea what the number is but curious what everyone's thoughts are.

Football $2 to $2.5
Basketball $750k ish
Baseball $600k ish

 

[drexeldog23]

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this has absolutely nothing to do with the topic but about 20 years ago i went into the Walgreens on N State street in Jackson when the cops were escorting a young scholar from the pharmacy area. apparently he had stolen a prescription pad and had written a script for "one pound of mophine" . everyone back in the pharmacy were laughing their a--es off.