Quick thoughts

[dcf4psu]

1.) The team lost 27-24 with zero contributions from the WR.
2.) They should have been ahead 14-0. That was a big deal - the bad pass by Allar on the goal line.
3.) Allar had a bad game, but back to #1, in the end with what he had I don't totally blame him.
4.) The WR room was an issue last year and nothing was done to make it better this year. This was a team that with just competent WR play could have won it all. The rest of the team was championship caliber. Seasons like this don't come too often and it's tough to realize one unit cost the team the chance to win a championship. Hopefully there will be a new WR coach next year. We need to be producing NFL talent again at the position.

 

[Grass]

I would add that Notre Dame's OL was decimated by injuries and lost they TO battle and were still able to win.

 

[EricStratton-RushChairman]

i don't understand how we didn't gather in that fumble late in Q2. That to me was the difference

 

[LB99]

i don't understand how we didn't gather in that fumble late in Q2. That to me was the difference

3 ND players vs 1 PSU player (Carter with an injured shoulder). Shoulder injuries are severely limiting. So, basically 6 arms trying to get that ball vs 1.

 

[Corner Room Breakfast]

3 ND players vs 1 PSU player (Carter with an injured shoulder). Shoulder injuries are severely limiting. So, basically 6 arms trying to get that ball vs 1.

I noticed one of the ND players took a cheap shot at Carter's bad shoulder when he was on the ground, and Warren took a good shot to the head on a marginal out of bounds call.

 

[LB99]

I noticed one of the ND players took a cheap shot at Carter's bad shoulder when he was on the ground, and Warren took a good shot to the head on a marginal out of bounds call.

I saw that also. The cheap shot on Carter when he was down should have been called. It was egregiously late.

 

[PSUMichFan]

In my opinion this game came down to “1” pass. If you complete the pass to Singleton in the Red Zone he scores and we add 4 more points. If you complete the pass to Singleton on wheel route he probably takes it to the house. If you don’t throw that bad interception we win. Anyone of those plays goes Penn State’s way we win the game. One pass was the difference for this game. Also there were people open for passes – Allar just played one poor game. Wonder what Pibula is thinking????

I question why Franklin did not run the clock out with 30+ seconds left in the game, regroup and go into overtime. This is where I miss Joe Pa. (showing my age).

Lastly – Jeremiyah Love made a comment at the end of the game basically stating Penn State were pussycats not Lions after the victory. I’m thinking this is from a guy who was held to 45 yards the entire game. Also I heard about (did no see it) the cheap shot to Carter to the shoulder by a Notre Dame defender. Based on that I can only say “Go Ohio State”.

The Oregon game we could have won; this game we should have won!

 

[DandyDonII]

In my opinion this game came down to “1” pass. If you complete the pass to Singleton in the Red Zone he scores and we add 4 more points. If you complete the pass to Singleton on wheel route he probably takes it to the house. If you don’t throw that bad interception we win. Anyone of those plays goes Penn State’s way we win the game. One pass was the difference for this game. Also there were people open for passes – Allar just played one poor game. Wonder what Pibula is thinking????

I question why Franklin did not run the clock out with 30+ seconds left in the game, regroup and go into overtime. This is where I miss Joe Pa. (showing my age).

Lastly – Jeremiyah Love made a comment at the end of the game basically stating Penn State were pussycats not Lions after the victory. I’m thinking this is from a guy who was held to 45 yards the entire game. Also I heard about (did no see it) the cheap shot to Carter to the shoulder by a Notre Dame defender. Based on that I can only say “Go Ohio State”.

The Oregon game we could have won; this game we should have won!

I am pretty conservative when it comes to football, but had no problem going for the score late after we advanced the ball past the 30. It was a way to win without the other team getting to touch the ball. The QB made a horrific decision. A guy starts 25 games with 9 INTs, should be able to trust him in that situation.

 

[Nittering Nabob]

Allar is fortunate that he didn't have 3 interceptions on the night. I was surprised the officials threw flags on the two into the end zone. They were legit penalties, but that crew was borderline incompetent.

 

[CbusLion]

I am pretty conservative when it comes to football, but had no problem going for the score late after we advanced the ball past the 30. It was a way to win without the other team getting to touch the ball. The QB made a horrific decision. A guy starts 25 games with 9 INTs, should be able to trust him in that situation.

Agree with this 100%. Making an effort for a FG attempt was totally fine. The decision to make that throw across the field to a covered receiver was almost unbelievable. Especially in those circumstances.

 

[FTLPSU]

In my opinion this game came down to “1” pass. If you complete the pass to Singleton in the Red Zone he scores and we add 4 more points. If you complete the pass to Singleton on wheel route he probably takes it to the house. If you don’t throw that bad interception we win. Anyone of those plays goes Penn State’s way we win the game. One pass was the difference for this game. Also there were people open for passes – Allar just played one poor game. Wonder what Pibula is thinking????

I question why Franklin did not run the clock out with 30+ seconds left in the game, regroup and go into overtime. This is where I miss Joe Pa. (showing my age).

Lastly – Jeremiyah Love made a comment at the end of the game basically stating Penn State were pussycats not Lions after the victory. I’m thinking this is from a guy who was held to 45 yards the entire game. Also I heard about (did no see it) the cheap shot to Carter to the shoulder by a Notre Dame defender. Based on that I can only say “Go Ohio State”.

The Oregon game we could have won; this game we should have won!

Relating to the Jeremiyah comment;

This tells me that our D runs their mouths a little too much....did you see some of the ND players make that Arms Flop/Fly thing our guys do? ND was mocking PSU all night in various ways...which tells me our guys run their mouths tooooo much and this motivates your opponent especially in football much like boxing.

This is on Franklin.

I remember POZ, forget what game specifically it was a big game OSU/MIch might have been ND forget--but our Defense made an amazing play forgot who specifically an INT or something big. On our sidelines Poz grabbed the player and gestured the SHHH sign to him and cut that out gesture not to do that. It was leadership.

I have no problem running your mouth, jawwing, the hole thing on the field, backing your guys after the whistle. I do have a problem with gestures and dances etc....the public things that can be seen by everyone.

This goes to my points about Franklin allowing that to happen...but hey cant be disciplined cuz these kids simply transfer..

 

[CbusLion]

Allar is fortunate that he didn't have 3 interceptions on the night. I was surprised the officials threw flags on the two into the end zone. They were legit penalties, but that crew was borderline incompetent.

The first pick that was reversed was not a bad throw, the PI altered the route.

The second pick that was reversed was a poor decision AND a bad throw. Allar got bailed out.

 

[Grant Green]

Agree with this 100%. Making an effort for a FG attempt was totally fine. The decision to make that throw across the field to a covered receiver was almost unbelievable. Especially in those circumstances.

Mark me down as well. Why go to OT and make it a virtual 50/50 proposition, when you can try to gain 35+ yards and try to win in regulation? No brainer.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

Allar’s pick was on his 3rd read. There are QBs in the league who don’t regularly make it past two. This isn’t meant to exonerate him for his poor decision, but rather to suggest how frustrating it must be for a college QB who has the ability to get that far into his progression, yet still not find someone even slightly open. Or put another way, how much does the lack of even serviceable WRs stunt a QBs growth? Again, not making excuses for him…just suggesting that his learning curve is steeper than it needs to be.

Also, heard today on one of the wrap up shows a most amazing stat (haven’t yet checked if it’s accurate): Penn State WRs had ZERO catches for -3 yards!! Is that even possible? Certainly doesn’t help (and likely hurts) a QB who was already having a rough night.

 

[dcf4psu]

Allar’s pick was on his 3rd read. There are QBs in the league who don’t regularly make it past two. This isn’t meant to exonerate him for his poor decision, but rather to suggest how frustrating it must be for a college QB who has the ability to get that far into his progression, yet still not find someone even slightly open. Or put another way, how much does the lack of even serviceable WRs stunt a QBs growth? Again, not making excuses for him…just suggesting that his learning curve is steeper than it needs to be.

Also, heard today on one of the wrap up shows a most amazing stat (haven’t yet checked if it’s accurate): Penn State WRs had ZERO catches for -3 yards!! Is that even possible? Certainly doesn’t help (and likely hurts) a QB who was already having a rough night.

Until recently we were putting good WR into the NFL. That ended and with as we saw last night a solid chance at a championship.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

It’s been a problem for a couple of years now. They haven’t been able to acquire even just solid WRs, which is odd considering how many quality kids there are coming out of HS at that position every year. They have a few new faces coming in via HS and the portal - any chance any of them can be instant impact players?

 

[CbusLion]

Allar’s pick was on his 3rd read. There are QBs in the league who don’t regularly make it past two. This isn’t meant to exonerate him for his poor decision, but rather to suggest how frustrating it must be for a college QB who has the ability to get that far into his progression, yet still not find someone even slightly open. Or put another way, how much does the lack of even serviceable WRs stunt a QBs growth? Again, not making excuses for him…just suggesting that his learning curve is steeper than it needs to be.

Also, heard today on one of the wrap up shows a most amazing stat (haven’t yet checked if it’s accurate): Penn State WRs had ZERO catches for -3 yards!! Is that even possible? Certainly doesn’t help (and likely hurts) a QB who was already having a rough night.

That is a valid point, that Allar did a good job of buying more time and STILL guys could not get open. The decision was awful, but whatever schemes and techniques we are using to get WRs open must be garbage. The personnel might not be excellent, but feels like positional coaching is a culprit.

Lambert Smith had his issues but made plays. Julian Fleming occasionally got open at OSU, but here only blocks? Wallace is supposedly an excellent athlete. Omari Evans has a "super power" of speed, getting open deep against quarters defense but can't ever shake man coverage or find holes in zone? The bodies have been here to be atleast a capable passing threat.

 

[bleedbluepsu]

Here is all you need to know.
We’re the only team this year that is not a service academy school to not have a WR record a catch in a game after last night.

 

[pudgetank]

I am pretty conservative when it comes to football, but had no problem going for the score late after we advanced the ball past the 30. It was a way to win without the other team getting to touch the ball. The QB made a horrific decision. A guy starts 25 games with 9 INTs, should be able to trust him in that situation.

Normally I’d agree with you. But with all the accurate critique of Drew’s poor footwork, passes and shaky play throughout the game, I think you play it conservative at that point. Why would anyone think Drew suddenly finds the magic?

Take a knee, go to a 25 yard field and let your RB’s and defense do their things. IMO, the best chance to win.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

The first pick that was reversed was not a bad throw, the PI altered the route.

The second pick that was reversed was a poor decision AND a bad throw. Allar got bailed out.

I respectfully disagree about the decision, Warren was behind and had beaten all three defenders.

It was just an awful throw, was underthrown by at least 5-7 yds.

 

[MacNit]

Agree with this 100%. Making an effort for a FG attempt was totally fine. The decision to make that throw across the field to a covered receiver was almost unbelievable. Especially in those circumstances.

Coaching.

This lack of mental toughness is a defining trait of Franklin’s PSU teams.

And he has the record to back that up!

 

[MacNit]

Relating to the Jeremiyah comment;

This tells me that our D runs their mouths a little too much....did you see some of the ND players make that Arms Flop/Fly thing our guys do? ND was mocking PSU all night in various ways...which tells me our guys run their mouths tooooo much and this motivates your opponent especially in football much like boxing.

This is on Franklin.

I remember POZ, forget what game specifically it was a big game OSU/MIch might have been ND forget--but our Defense made an amazing play forgot who specifically an INT or something big. On our sidelines Poz grabbed the player and gestured the SHHH sign to him and cut that out gesture not to do that. It was leadership.

I have no problem running your mouth, jawwing, the hole thing on the field, backing your guys after the whistle. I do have a problem with gestures and dances etc....the public things that can be seen by everyone.

This goes to my points about Franklin allowing that to happen...but hey cant be disciplined cuz these kids simply transfer..

Spot on.

This program lacks mature leadership. And it starts at the top.

It manifests itself in their on-field behavior. And it results in the score on the field in tough games.

Not the Penn State way of Rip and Joe. And it shows!

 

[rudedude]

Spot on.

This program lacks mature leadership. And it starts at the top.

It manifests itself in their on-field behavior. And it results in the score on the field in tough games.

Not the Penn State way of Rip and Joe. And it shows!

Get your head out of the past (and out of your own a**) FFS. This is a different era and a different breed of kids and how you need to manage them in an athletics program. All this silly bs you spout about “mature leadership”. Are you at practice every day or in the locker room to observe the supposed lack of leadership? No? Then STFU about it already. Leadership showed up to me in how the players dealt with the loss the other day, supporting one another and not denigrating each other. Does Ryan Day lack leadership when his RB punches a Texas player in the head in the heat of competition? Get a clue you hypercritical mook.

 

[OhioLion]

Get your head out of the past (and out of your own a**) FFS. This is a different era and a different breed of kids and how you need to manage them in an athletics program. All this silly bs you spout about “mature leadership”. Are you at practice every day or in the locker room to observe the supposed lack of leadership? No? Then STFU about it already. Leadership showed up to me in how the players dealt with the loss the other day, supporting one another and not denigrating each other. Does Ryan Day lack leadership when his RB punches a Texas player in the head in the heat of competition? Get a clue you hypercritical mook.

Good points. There was a Post game rant on here the other night was that Penn State has no culture in its football program. To your point - it’s a different era.
Too many think there’s no culture because you don’t have clean cut, clean shaven, no jewelry, no tats players walking around the Lasch.

 

[SouthHalls410]

I agree about the celebration stuff. Make a huge play, pump up your teammates and your fans and that’s it. This celebration crud after each stop, pass play on offense, first downs is getting old. Act like you’ve been there before. I watched a bit of the OSU game last night and what I watched was very little celebration by their defenders after plays. They play more disciplined than we do. Except the RB punching that guy.

 

[BostonNit]

If you complete the pass to Singleton on wheel route he probably takes it to the house.

Agree with your other observations but in this case, we still scored on that drive AND ground out 7 mins which is usually demoralizing.

 

[NoSoup4U]

Spot on.

This program lacks mature leadership. And it starts at the top.

It manifests itself in their on-field behavior. And it results in the score on the field in tough games.

Not the Penn State way of Rip and Joe. And it shows!

Aww butt hurt are ya? Like to see you lace em up and how you would do? Put up or shut up snowflake

 

[Keyser Soze 16802]

This former PSU receiver had almost a thousand yards receiving for a bad team

KLS stats

 

[LaJollaCreek]

Mark me down as well. Why go to OT and make it a virtual 50/50 proposition, when you can try to gain 35+ yards and try to win in regulation? No brainer.

Even more so after the run went for 12 or so yards with a QB that generally doesn’t throw picks. Play to win the game in regulation if you can and there was an opportunity.

 

[PSUAVLNC]

Did Penn State really have only 9 guys on the field for Notre Dames winning FG???

 

[bleedbluepsu]

Did Penn State really have only 9 guys on the field for Notre Dames winning FG???

We only had 9 on LOS and 2 guys were back which I haven’t heard an explanation for? Protect against fake or if blocked chance to grab and advance.

 

[CbusLion]

Aww butt hurt are ya? Like to see you lace em up and how you would do? Put up or shut up snowflake

MacNit's job as a Penn State fan is not to LACE EM UP, it is to budget some money every month to support the collective.

 

[MacNit]

Get your head out of the past (and out of your own a**) FFS. This is a different era and a different breed of kids and how you need to manage them in an athletics program. All this silly bs you spout about “mature leadership”. Are you at practice every day or in the locker room to observe the supposed lack of leadership? No? Then STFU about it already. Leadership showed up to me in how the players dealt with the loss the other day, supporting one another and not denigrating each other. Does Ryan Day lack leadership when his RB punches a Texas player in the head in the heat of competition? Get a clue you hypercritical mook.

Jeez…try decaf, Skippy. Hypocritical? Does not seem you understand the definition of that word? But I digress.

What kept a O$U drive alive and handed them a TD in our game this year?

Showboating. And an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty when we would have got off the field.

Might have cost us the game.

I am not in practices or locker room but have a pretty good window second hand.

But the only relevant issue is that the team is immature in the field. Hot dogging, showboating (#33 was lucky he did not get flagged and cost us again). It manifests itself in the results. It reflects on the head coach.

As far as Ryan Day, I could care less. He is not the Penn State coach m.

 

[MacNit]

Aww butt hurt are ya? Like to see you lace em up and how you would do? Put up or shut up snowflake

So I make an observation that you don’t like and now I need to play?

Could give WR a try. Bet I could do better than 9 catches for -3 yards!

 

[MacNit]

MacNit's job as a Penn State fan is not to LACE EM UP, it is to budget some money every month to support the collective.

Thank you for that CBus…I am a bit rusty and long in the tooth!

 

[LB99]

This former PSU receiver had almost a thousand yards receiving for a bad team

KLS stats

And he seems to want PSU more than PSU wanted him. I’m sure there’s reason why he isn’t here anymore. He needs to let it go.

 

[LB99]

Aww butt hurt are ya? Like to see you lace em up and how you would do? Put up or shut up snowflake

He’s a troll. Put him on ignore. I just did that with another jerkoff on here and it’s refreshing.

 

[step.eng69]

My quick thought:

Link:
Will Notre Dame join a football conference? Irish AD makes it official

On the cusp of playing for a national championship, it appears Notre Dame is more than happy to remain an independent in football and not join a conference going forward.

Irish athletic director Pete Bevacqua reaffirmed the school’s commitment to not join a conference and the additional financial incentives it provides the football program.

“No secret, the expansion of the CFP from four to 12 teams has helped enormously, because as an independent, as with other schools, we get better opportunities, better percentages of getting in the playoff, and the more you knock on that national championship door, the better,” he told ESPN.

“And we like the freedom, quite frankly, it gives us,” he added.

In addition to the economic advantage of making the College Football Playoff as an independent, Bevacqua also noted how Notre Dame enjoys a more national footprint than other schools.

“The fact we were able to play Navy at MetLife and had the Shamrock Series against Army at Yankee Stadium, that we can continue that great rivalry with USC, we really get to move around the map and keep that very national presence,” he said.

Notre Dame advanced to the College Football Playoff National Championship Game after defeating Penn State in the Orange Bowl semifinal round game.

And in the process, it will cash a huge check, one that it won’t have to share with any other schools, another advantage of that independence.

By advancing to the national title game, Notre Dame will earn $20 million, every cent of which the school gets to keep all for itself.

Schools that are in a conference, which is to say all the others, have to share their playoff take with other members of their league.

College football’s commentators can talk all they want about how the school “has to” join a conference to “keep up” with the times, but Notre Dame believes there are about 20 million arguments to the contrary.

That’s in addition to the projected $12 million that Notre Dame should get from future College Football Playoff distributions, an amount equal to Big 12 members and only about $1 million less than ACC schools will get.

Those pro-conference arguments stem from what seemed like a logistical problem that stood between Notre Dame and the national championship in the 12-team playoff era.