Quinshon Judkins...portalling

18IsTheMan

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The portal is nothing more than the NFL model being pushed onto college football. Players have no loyalty to teams or schools anymore. Their only loyalty is to NIL money and self promotion.

That's partly correct, but this is worse than the NFL model. The pros would never even consider a model where there is 0 obligation on the player's part. The NFLPA would never even ask for such an absurd thing. Players coming and going as they please.

But your last sentence hits on why this is the death of college football as we know it. Like the portal or not. Like NIL or not. Truth is, the quintessential element of college football WAS the player/fan bond. You saw a kid come in as an 18/19 year old and, in most cases, saw them leave as 21/22 year olds. A handful would go pro early (which meant they probably did very well for your program) A few others would transfer out, but in the vast majority of cases, that was indication that they were never going to get playing time and they wanted to go somewhere they could play.

That fan/player bond was one of the, if not THE, key distinguishing characteristics of the sport that set it apart from the pros. Except in rare cases where you had a Paterno/Bowden/Saban type coach, fans mostly identified with the players. Coaches could come and go, but, by and large, players were locked in on the program. You loved your guys and hated the other team's guys. Now, a player you were cheering your heart out for one year could be the opposition the next season. Knowing that reality erodes the fan/player bond, which destroys the fabric of the game. Just the reality of it.
 

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That's partly correct, but this is worse than the NFL model. The pros would never even consider a model where there is 0 obligation on the player's part. The NFLPA would never even ask for such an absurd thing. Players coming and going as they please.

But your last sentence hits on why this is the death of college football as we know it. Like the portal or not. Like NIL or not. Truth is, the quintessential element of college football WAS the player/fan bond. You saw a kid come in as an 18/19 year old and, in most cases, saw them leave as 21/22 year olds. A handful would go pro early (which meant they probably did very well for your program) A few others would transfer out, but in the vast majority of cases, that was indication that they were never going to get playing time and they wanted to go somewhere they could play.

That fan/player bond was one of the, if not THE, key distinguishing characteristics of the sport that set it apart from the pros. Except in rare cases where you had a Paterno/Bowden/Saban type coach, fans mostly identified with the players. Coaches could come and go, but, by and large, players were locked in on the program. You loved your guys and hated the other team's guys. Now, a player you were cheering your heart out for one year could be the opposition the next season. Knowing that reality erodes the fan/player bond, which destroys the fabric of the game. Just the reality of it.
Well said sir. The new way has, and is, collapsing what we loved so much. I'm still trying to figure out where I am.

It's hard to let go of what you have had and enjoyed for so long.
 

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Well said sir. The new way has, and is, collapsing what we loved so much. I'm still trying to figure out where I am.

It's hard to let go of what you have had and enjoyed for so long.

Basically my position.

It's hard to think of a life without college football in the fall. On the other hand, I can't delude myself into thinking the current product has any resemblance to college football.
 

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Basically my position.

It's hard to think of a life without college football in the fall. On the other hand, I can't delude myself into thinking the current product has any resemblance to college football.
I doubt I'll ever completely lose interest but my passion and level of interest is already WAY down from what it was a handful of years ago. I might watch one game outside of our game on a weekend now when, in the past, I'd watch all day and into the night on Saturday. I've even missed a half of some of our games this season on tv and just listened on the radio if I was fishing or doing something else.

I do know the bond I feel with the team is a shadow of what it used to be.
 

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I doubt I'll ever completely lose interest but my passion and level of interest is already WAY down from what it was a handful of years ago. I might watch one game outside of our game on a weekend now when, in the past, I'd watch all day and into the night on Saturday. I've even missed a half of some of our games this season on tv and just listened on the radio if I was fishing or doing something else.

I do know the bond I feel with the team is a shadow of what it used to be.

I haven't found myself watching less of college football yet, but I'm fighting a drop in enthusiasm for our team specifically. It's harder to invest emotionally with straight out mercenaries.

Oddly, but it hasn't dulled my enjoyment of watching other teams play. I watch those the same as I always have, just enjoying the sport.
 

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I haven't found myself watching less of college football yet, but I'm fighting a drop in enthusiasm for our team specifically. It's harder to invest emotionally with straight out mercenaries.

Oddly, but it hasn't dulled my enjoyment of watching other teams play. I watch those the same as I always have, just enjoying the sport.
Well, it would probably be more helpful if we won more. lol I'm sure Ole Miss and Mizzou fans are just fine with it.

CFB overall has been great the last couple of years.
 
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Well, it would probably be more helpful if we won more. lol I'm sure Ole Miss and Mizzou fans are just fine with it.

CFB overall has been great the last couple of years.

Oh yeah. There's a thought that we just got forcibly pushed to the back of the class. (Moreso than our own fumbling has done)

I agree cfb overall seems better. I wonder though, if it's not just different dynasties taking the place of the dynasties of the old model. For a short time they fight out good games, but in a few years we'll just have a different small group of teams that win the titles.
 

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Oh yeah. There's a thought that we just got forcibly pushed to the back of the class. (Moreso than our own fumbling has done)

I agree cfb overall seems better. I wonder though, if it's not just different dynasties taking the place of the dynasties of the old model. For a short time they fight out good games, but in a few years we'll just have a different small group of teams that win the titles.
I don't think so. The idea of competing for national championships is going to open up opportunities for programs that have been in the top 15 range they didn't have before. Doesn't mean Bama or OSU are going anywhere. The pond is just getting bigger.
 

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I don't think so. The idea of competing for national championships is going to open up opportunities for programs that have been in the top 15 range they didn't have before. Doesn't mean Bama or OSU are going anywhere. The pond is just getting bigger.

Possibly. Maybe the amount of teams that can afford the championship roster are more than the few that dominated the previous era.