Oh wait, the kid was 14 and spent a lot of time with the family? And they also snapped some towels? That makes it totally normal then to WANT TO SHOWER NAKED WITH A 14 YEAR OLD BOY.Except this was a 14 year old who basically lived with the Sandusky family. They showered after a workout in an open multi head shower with visibility to anyone who wanted to wash their hands in that locker room. That same teenager flat out said nothing happened and that they were horsing around snapping towels. I think it’s a reach to conclude he was molesting children based off these facts. Context is important. Just my opinion.
Context is important.Except this was a 14 year old who basically lived with the Sandusky family. They showered after a workout in an open multi head shower with visibility to anyone who wanted to wash their hands in that locker room. That same teenager flat out said nothing happened and that they were horsing around snapping towels. I think it’s a reach to conclude he was molesting children based off these facts. Context is important. Just my opinion.
Context is important.
It was not his child and it would be at the very least weird even if it was. He was the head of an agency that worked with vulnerable children. Completely inappropriate for him to be in that position, mind boggingly inappropriate for him to be in that position two years after being investigated by police for showering alone with one of his clients.
The situation two years earlier was not with such a kid. He held that kid up to the shower head. Absolutely no reason anybody in his role would put themselves or a kid in that position.
I mean even if it was his kid, I can’t imagine running around a shower naked with my father, “snapping towels” when I was 14. That’s honestly nauseating to even think about.
I 100% agree with this. I can believe that Jerry didn't think showering with kids was wrong at first but being reported and investigated should have been a wake up call. The fact that he continued to do this tells me that he had a problem. The only question in my mind is what was the extent of the problem. I'm less convinced that he sodomized kids.Right. Anybody in their right mind knows that was inappropriate. But even if somehow you didn’t, you sure as hell had to know it when you were investigated by the police for doing it. The fact that he seemed to have a need to do this tells you there was a problem.
So at my age I can remember things 40 years ago and not what I did last week. is that the same . lolThere is no such thing.
Yea why did he do that when he had a nice soundproof basement?Except all of those were in the daytime with groups in and around the shower area. The Grinning Baboon brought one kid onto PSU's campus when no one was around. Why didn't he take him to his house? Or why didn't he take the kid home where is parent or guardian would take care of him?
About TSM...So when someone(the police IIRC) tells people to stop showering with children and you run a massive charity for under privileged children, you're saying Jerry was just too dumb or set in his ways to understand this so he kept on doing it. The amount of mental gymnastics to defend him at times and still is just silly. He was running TSM and didn't know better even after being told is what you're trying to say....nobody bought it.
Parlato is introducing "facts" to tidy up his narrative that have not been established by credible sources elsewhere.. He doesn't care about the Grinning Baboon. he's just trying to generate enough income to pay off the IRS.Oh wait, the kid was 14 and spent a lot of time with the family? And they also snapped some towels? That makes it totally normal then to WANT TO SHOWER NAKED WITH A 14 YEAR OLD BOY.
Probably no shower in the basement, soundproof or otherwise.Yea why did he do that when he had a nice soundproof basement?
Speaking of said "soundproof basement" was that ever proven?
Just one of many questions I still have.![]()
JZ has trained you well young jedi....but Jerry isn't innocent and is where he needs to be.We can argue all day If there was sexual intent with the shower. I don’t think there was. The good thing about the debate is it keeps putting the fraudulent repressed memory therapy methodologies to the top of the thread. Everyone needs to know that these practices are widely debunked and junk science. You don’t forget traumatic events in your life. The timeline, once money became available through the BOT, is quite curious, amongst a million other things that are wrong with the case.
Well, he raped children. Maybe that's why all the angst.I wonder why ALL the angst concerning the scandal is focused at Sandusky? Seems to me more should be applied toward the Penna. Courts and Legal System. I am not exonerating Jerry, however with the numerous malfeasance of the prosecution resulting in Fina being disbarred...Baldwin being sanctioned...changes in presiding judges...grand jury leaks...collusion between Fina, police, Freeh, media, governor, ncaa, testimony changes, selective testimony from only those that forward the narrative... etc, etc, the fix was in! Remember if they could accomplish this against Jerry nothing stops this from happening to you.
Sex really does seem to be the one element that exposes people (intended), doesn’t it? Not to get political, but did Clinton really need to be in the Oval Office to have sexual with Lewinsky?Probably no shower in the basement, soundproof or otherwise.
Again, the question: why of all places dis the Baboon bring the kid onto PSU's campus to shower? Maybe he was parsimonious and trying to save on his water bill.
There is no reason to argue about a grown man being granted the responsibility of the care of unrelated minors showering and having physical contact with those placed in his care. There is really no innocent reason for it.We can argue all day If there was sexual intent with the shower. I don’t think there was. The good thing about the debate is it keeps putting the fraudulent repressed memory therapy methodologies to the top of the thread. Everyone needs to know that these practices are widely debunked and junk science. You don’t forget traumatic events in your life. The timeline, once money became available through the BOT, is quite curious, amongst a million other things that are wrong with the case.
DoubtfulWell, he raped children. Maybe that's why all the angst.
Moog doesn't need evidence or research. He sniffs his finger while in his own wind to nail down his stances.But now there is as much, if not more evidence, that he did not. It takes very little research to figure this out.
So at my age I can remember things 40 years ago and not what I did last week. is that the same . lol![]()
How many of the "victims" had credibility established?Parlato is introducing "facts" to tidy up his narrative that have not been established by credible sources elsewhere.. He doesn't care about the Grinning Baboon. he's just trying to generate enough income to pay off the IRS.
Probably no shower in the basement, soundproof or otherwise.
Again, the question: why of all places dis the Baboon bring the kid onto PSU's campus to shower? Maybe he was parsimonious and trying to save on his water bill.
So Frankie is in the same category as those who shook PSU down? Sounds just about right.How many of the "victims" had credibility established?
So Frankie is in the same category as those who shook PSU down? Sounds just about right.
WTF is wrong with you? Face it. Joe had a child rapist on his staff for 30 years. You can still love and admire Joe without giving a pass to a child rapist to protect Joe's honor. It's sickening.Doubtful
Thank you Dr. FreudWe can argue all day If there was sexual intent with the shower. I don’t think there was. The good thing about the debate is it keeps putting the fraudulent repressed memory therapy methodologies to the top of the thread. Everyone needs to know that these practices are widely debunked and junk science. You don’t forget traumatic events in your life. The timeline, once money became available through the BOT, is quite curious, amongst a million other things that are wrong with the case.
Frankie don't care about Joe, just his bank account.WTF is wrong with you? Face it. Joe had a child rapist on his staff for 30 years. You can still love and admire Joe without giving a pass to a child rapist to protect Joe's honor. It's sickening.
Zero evidence of that . You clearly haven’t studied the case. Do you believe in repressed memory therapy? Which accuser do you find most credible?WTF is wrong with you? Face it. Joe had a child rapist on his staff for 30 years. You can still love and admire Joe without giving a pass to a child rapist to protect Joe's honor. It's sickening.
Please STFU you nut job. And everyone like youZero evidence of that . You clearly haven’t studied the case. Do you believe in repressed memory therapy? Which accuser do you find most credible?
Nah. I’m good. I’ll keep trying to educate you on the case. It really isn’t hard to figure out if you have half of a working brain. You can choose not to read it and not respond. I’m fine either way.Please STFU you nut job. And everyone like you
Flat earthers like to be heard too....it's really no different.Please STFU you nut job. And everyone like you
At least flat earthers don't really hurt anyone...I think differently of those that try justifying old men SHOWERING ALONE IN EMPTY LOCKER ROOMS WITH NAKED YOUNG BOYS. Like, how sick does someone have to be to do that, especially after they've been caught once and read the riot act...and yet we've got someone vehemently defending him and trying to normalize that behavior as if it's not a problem.Flat earthers like to be heard too....it's really no different.
True but this is due to grown men (I say that almost TIC) that were upset their idols name got dragged through the mud unfairly IMO. Everyone else that helped put Jerry away or didn't fight for his "innocence" upset these folks so much so that they created their own Jerry is innocent reality. Yes normal humans when approached by the law about showering with kids stop showering with kids and would never do it again, it would be a hard stop. It was a speed bump for Jerry, but these clowns are fighting some imaginary online appeal here so just grab some popcorn and watch them spin around in circles at this point.At least flat earthers don't really hurt anyone...I think differently of those that try justifying old men SHOWERING ALONE IN EMPTY LOCKER ROOMS WITH NAKED YOUNG BOYS. Like, how sick does someone have to be to do that, especially after they've been caught once and read the riot act...and yet we've got someone vehemently defending him and trying to normalize that behavior as if it's not a problem.
Both men stayed friendly with Jerry years after the post workout showers because nothing happened. They even defended him until money became available. Do some research. Use your brain.True but this is due to grown men (I say that almost TIC) that were upset their idols name got dragged through the mud unfairly IMO. Everyone else that helped put Jerry away or didn't fight for his "innocence" upset these folks so much so that they created their own Jerry is innocent reality. Yes normal humans when approached by the law about showering with kids stop showering with kids and would never do it again, it would be a hard stop. It was a speed bump for Jerry, but these clowns are fighting some imaginary online appeal here so just grab some popcorn and watch them spin around in circles at this point.
If you look back PSU had some fans doing a drive by on victims homes, visiting Jerry in jail, and following a nutjob from Cali who knew he had a captive audience so he led them on and I bet quite a few donated to him too. They were doxing everyone and acting like complete idiots about it. Listen the BOT and PSU's handling was a disaster for sure, but I have never once felt bad for Jerry. I honestly think they are more upset that all of this had an impact on their idol as you don't see them pulling this support for Nasser or other serial pedophiles.
I'm sure you're doing some really good research there Doc. You don't even do the research to know how common that is. I love when dumb people try and claim they do research. It's evident you don't know a damn thing about sexual abuse and the relationships they carry, but you're on to something dope. Have a great life and cheer for your pedophile!!!!!!Both men stayed friendly with Jerry years after the post workout showers because nothing happened. They even defended him until money became available. Do some research. Use your brain.
Yes. Have studied this case a lot. A thousand holes in it. I’m one of many who think he innocent, including some very well known individuals and highly intelligent professors throughout the country. We all have our own opinions. It is what it is.I'm sure you're doing some really good research there Doc. You don't even do the research to know how common that is. I love when dumb people try and claim they do research. It's evident you don't know a damn thing about sexual abuse and the relationships they carry, but you're on to something dope. Have a great life and cheer for your pedophile!!!!!!
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Eye witness?Because SANDUSKY SEXUALLY MOLESTED CHILDREN. Full stop.
Boundary issues = life sentence?THE GUY SHOWERED WITH YOUNG NAKED BOYS IN SITUATIONS WHERE THERE WAS NO REASON/NEED TO SHOWER!!!!!!
Not to mention that after getting caught, and being so shook up by it that he "wished he were dead", he went right back to SHOWERING WITH MORE NAKED YOUNG BOYS.
Ignoring everything else, how can one look at those facts and determine that Jerry might have just had a few boundry issues but is wrongfully sitting in jail? Pennsylvania is a safer place for children when Jerry Sandusky isn't walking the streets, regardless of if John Ziegler thinks that the state might have had the date wrong on when he was SHOWERING WITH NAKED CHILDREN.
Please list the names of those "highly intelligent professors" so I can make sure my kids never attend a course taught by of any of those pedophiles/pedophilia enablers.Yes. Have studied this case a lot. A thousand holes in it. I’m one of many who think he innocent, including some very well known individuals and highly intelligent professors throughout the country. We all have our own opinions. It is what it is.
The world isn't as black and white as you seem to believe. Two things can both be true...Jerry Sandusky obviously has some big issues due to his desire to SHOWER WITH NAKED YOUNG BOYS...and some of the victims likely did what was needed to secure a payday. And I'd hope that stupid can be fixed before you continue with more embarrassing posts defending an old man (and normalizing his behavior) that continually SHOWERD WITH NAKED YOUNG BOYS in empty locker rooms. To 99+% of the world, that's not ok, even if those NAKED BOYS THAT HE SHOWERED WITH still talked to him years later.So let me get this straight. LaJollaCreek, GrimReaper, Pennst8, and Erial_Lion actually believe 100% of the accusers forgot their abuse until Repressed Memory Therapy reminded them of said abuse OR didn’t report any of the abuse until money was available right before trial? I’ll take you can’t fix stupid (or gullible) for 800 Alex.![]()
Nice try, Frankie. Trying to find where PSU settled with anyone prior to Sandusky's 2012 trial. Oh, they were just negotiating! Funny how you know that and the Grinning Baboon' attorneys didn't. And Jerry is still in jail.So let me get this straight. LaJollaCreek, GrimReaper, Pennst8, and Erial_Lion actually believe 100% of the accusers forgot their abuse until Repressed Memory Therapy reminded them of said abuse OR didn’t report any of the abuse until money was available right before trial? I’ll take you can’t fix stupid (or gullible) for 800 Alex.![]()