Retroactive analysis of coaches using the expanded CFP

18IsTheMan

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I've seen this a few places and it just highlights for me the idiocy of the expanded playoffs.

Most recently, I read about it relating to James Franklin. It was noted that he had failed to get PSU into playoffs in the 10 years of the 4-team format. However, as a significant caveat, the article noted that if the 12-team format had been in place during that time, he would have had PSU in the playoffs in 6 of the last 8 years. So they were arguing that his tenure should be looked at in that light.

It's downright asinine to me that there will be teams who will make no-improvement from last season, but make it to the playoffs only b/c it has been expanded to 12 teams. But they will celebrate being a playoff team as if they've taken a step forward, even though they are precisely where they were last season.

It's beyond asinine to me to look a coach's tenure basically retroactively and say "well, yeah, but if there had been a 12-team playoff his tenure would look a lot different" when, in fact, there would not be one thing different.
 

PrestonyteParrot

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There's a lot of ''well if.......'' scenarios coaches could point to for making the case for most anything.
 
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PrestonyteParrot

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I've seen this a few places and it just highlights for me the idiocy of the expanded playoffs.

Most recently, I read about it relating to James Franklin. It was noted that he had failed to get PSU into playoffs in the 10 years of the 4-team format. However, as a significant caveat, the article noted that if the 12-team format had been in place during that time, he would have had PSU in the playoffs in 6 of the last 8 years. So they were arguing that his tenure should be looked at in that light.

It's downright asinine to me that there will be teams who will make no-improvement from last season, but make it to the playoffs only b/c it has been expanded to 12 teams. But they will celebrate being a playoff team as if they've taken a step forward, even though they are precisely where they were last season.

It's beyond asinine to me to look a coach's tenure basically retroactively and say "well, yeah, but if there had been a 12-team playoff his tenure would look a lot different" when, in fact, there would not be one thing different.
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will110

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I've seen this a few places and it just highlights for me the idiocy of the expanded playoffs.

Most recently, I read about it relating to James Franklin. It was noted that he had failed to get PSU into playoffs in the 10 years of the 4-team format. However, as a significant caveat, the article noted that if the 12-team format had been in place during that time, he would have had PSU in the playoffs in 6 of the last 8 years. So they were arguing that his tenure should be looked at in that light.

It's downright asinine to me that there will be teams who will make no-improvement from last season, but make it to the playoffs only b/c it has been expanded to 12 teams. But they will celebrate being a playoff team as if they've taken a step forward, even though they are precisely where they were last season.

It's beyond asinine to me to look a coach's tenure basically retroactively and say "well, yeah, but if there had been a 12-team playoff his tenure would look a lot different" when, in fact, there would not be one thing different.
The fact of the matter is the program will have taken a step forward because of the new system. An expanded playoff creates new opportunities. It would be absurd to fire or be critical of a coach because "he wouldn't have made the playoff last year."

Now if you're retroactively crediting a coach for "he would have made the expanded playoffs if it existed" is equally as absurd.
 
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