I went and read it. They think he is offered either TEs or WRs. Their board doesn’t care, they just want him back for recruiting. Pretty weird thread to be honest
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And ER is the lead recruiter on the 5 star DL that A&M literally flipped from OU like yesterday.
so you put a coach in charge of a position group he never coached - didn't we try this? a lateral move to a job you might get fired from. also going to an unknown situation at UF. can they outbid JF?
Yea, not saying it makes sense… they were saying that he just wants to get back to FL and recruit. Regardless of position, their board, including the staff, think it’s close to a done deal.
Seider's kid was a student/walk-on at PSU for the last four years while dad was coaching. He probably wants to go home back to Florida now. UF doesn't care what he coaches - they're going all-in on hiring staff that are great recruiters.
Honestly, not sure if I'm that bummed about it. Seider did some really good things here, especially from a recruiting standpoint - I'd also give him the kudos for the development of Journey Brown. But, lately, things haven't been well in his department - Cain has been injury prone, no other RBs have panned out, practically every recruit from Florida hasn't panned out. He's also the run-game coordinator, which we all know was absolutely atrocious this season. Our best RBs have been from PA, and Seider did not recruit any of them. I understand the need to recruit Florida, but some of those kids seem soft and can't hold up in the BIG. I'm aware the grass isn't always greener when replacing staff, but give me a RB coach with some ties to the Mid-Atlantic/Northeast region and experience developing BIG10 RBs.
Honestly, not sure if I'm that bummed about it. Seider did some really good things here, especially from a recruiting standpoint - I'd also give him the kudos for the development of Journey Brown. But, lately, things haven't been well in his department - Cain has been injury prone, no other RBs have panned out, practically every recruit from Florida hasn't panned out. He's also the run-game coordinator, which we all know was absolutely atrocious this season. Our best RBs have been from PA, and Seider did not recruit any of them. I understand the need to recruit Florida, but some of those kids seem soft and can't hold up in the BIG. I'm aware the grass isn't always greener when replacing staff, but give me a RB coach with some ties to the Mid-Atlantic/Northeast region and experience developing BIG10 RBs.
Right. But is that an indictment of him being super talented? Or that our RB has become one of the biggest disappointments on the team?
Lee is nowhere near the level of JB, Sanders, and Barkley. In fact, most are predicting he'll lose his carries next season to an incoming freshman (who also happens to be from PA).
But we still need a LBr coach unless they are serious about Lorig doing it and I’m not a fan of that move.
I'm not; he was a great recruiter and made some in-roads into Florida for us, but his backs have underwhelmed recently and as noted, there is plenty of RB talent in PA and our more natural recruiting footprint to worry too much there. He was great on social media and the players seemed to like him, but he's not irreplaceable.
Lee has been the most productive RB, but not HR hitter like SB, Miles or JB.
Cain was from New Orleans I recall but IMG so call him Florida. the 2019 version was NFL potential, but not same guy now after injuries and surgery. Unfair to judge him as a bust - may come back strong.
Ford - 5* RB who did not really hit it like we thought. Not sure who recruited him from Virginia. He may be in the wrong system to fit his style.
Lovett - transfer and not sure who recruited him?
who recruited Nick Singleton from Gov Miff and Allen from IMG?
Don't forget Ricky Slade (also VA). I still think Ford could be great and wasn't as down on Slade as everyone else was. I think the staff bears a lot of blame for not naming 'the guy' and letting him earn it; rotating four backs or whatever it was a couple years ago was just dumb. Like they say, if you have three RBs, you have none.
One thing about Seider - his rotations have never worked. Rotating 4-5 backs has added to the inconsistency in the run-game. Someone convince me otherwise.
Based on some info out there about Cain's injury from 2020, he's not going to make it back to his 2019 form. Sounds like it was a lisfranc foot injury. He's never been healthy, not necessarily anyone's fault but he's never on the field. Recruited by Seider.
Lee has been solid, I guess, but there's an argument that he's been mediocre based on his stats. He also fumbles a lot. Recruited by Seider.
Ford was a misevaluation and was recruited by Seider.
No idea about Holmes, we never got much of an idea on him. Rumors out there that he's mulling transfer options.
Singleton was recruited by Seider - but it's been talked about that Franklin has never been more hands-on in a recruiting process as he was with Singleton and his family. If Seider leaves, Singleton still enrolls next month.
Allen is probably out with Seider leaves, but it feels like we have a bunch of backs on the roster that already have his skillset? If they don't transfer I guess.
I guess what I'm saying is, I don't think we were ever going to keep Seider forever - and while I wouldn't mind him staying, he's not irreplaceable. I'd also argue that Coach Huff was a better recruiter + developer of talent than Seider. I don't think Franklin will have issues finding a suitable replacement as RB Coach - and having some new eyes on the run game (coordinator) might be a good thing as well.
Seem like in this case the coaches were afraid of the transfer portal before it even existed.
Didn't Ricky Slade transfer to ODU (for Rahne), never play, and get kicked out of school. Seem to remember that, or something similar, as his career post-Penn State
I forgot to Holmes as he was another highly touted RB from Florida. His skill set was supposed to be a blend of speed and power, but somehow did not play much. It would be good to see what he actually is, so hope he pauses on the transfer idea at least until after spring.
do you think Florida is actually trying to hire Seider before early signing to take recruits?
Given how off the rails this thread has gone going to assume there is still nothing substantial to the Robinson rumors.
not seeing any rumors now re ER. maybe you are correct, this could be dead, or never was.
It appears that many of these coaching changes are aimed at flipping recruits or grabbing new decommits. At some point doesn't coaching come in to play? Can you have a staff of all salesmen and no actual football guys?
CJF and company spent part of the day in Tampa today meeting about the Bowl. Not sure if that had any impact on announcements.
Umm, Penn State announced the selection of a new President today. That should have and did take center stage. There was no way the football program was going to make an announcement today.
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Agree , but that says it all. No knock on the kid, but the Florida schools didn’t offer him as a RB. Wanted him to play LB
its not like we were the only school that wanted. He was a misevaluation by the recruiting gurus who had him as one of the nations best all purpose backs. Or a misevualtion by all the other major programs that offered him
It’s a package deal, Marshall is coming on board as chief coaching pole smoker.
Boy, grow up. Creating a alternate account simply to troll a poster here is so damn weak. Please tell us you didn’t go to Penn State.
and should also be grounds for a perma ban but I also feel the same way about the poster that stole Barry Fenchak's name. Its lame and pathetic.
I may have overreacted, but there have been times on this board when posters have called me out for being an idiot. Secret of my success: I’m coachable.
There are lots of idiots on this board... you are on the short list of people furthest from that group
Nah, you aren't out of line. Marshall can get very in your face at times. I think sometimes its a little much, but that's him being him. Setting up a fake account and trolling Marshall is not good for the board.
Marshall picks arguments and won’t ever back down. We each of us have our own Marshall stories. Every football board has this poster, Marshall’s ours. Deal with it like an adult.
While I agree the fake account is in bad taste, but “picking an argument and not backing down” isn’t an admirable quality. Poor behavior such as that from several people have ruined many a thread here.
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