Penn State is obviously struggling to get splash plays running the ball this year compared to last. One explanation for last year’s success was Clifford being a run threat. One to two defensive players usually held back to account for that threat. With Drew not being a serious running threat, they now attack the rbs with no hesitation. To remedy this situation, the mid to long range passing game needs to pull people off the line. In short yardage plays, bringing Beau in to run RPO would open things up for the rbs.
Running Problems
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I see this a lot. Defenses are cheating up because we have no WR threats downfield. We don't have a QB who will keep the ball on the RPO. Etc. Etc. Fact is we have played the three worst defenses in the BIg defending the run and we did nothing effective in running the ball. Rutgers gashed Indiana for over 270 yards rushing with NO passing threat (they threw for well under 100 yards). Northwestern had stopped nobody until playing us.
Whether it is scheme, lack of talent, or lack of commitment to run the ball, we suck at it. And that is shocking considering the experience and gravitas of the guys up front and our "best in the nation duo" at RB.
I don't see any wiggle, breaking tackles, beating defenses to the edge types of runs. I don't see our OL getting to the next level and walling off LB's and strong safeties. I don't see downfield blocks from the WRs (of course our RB's dont get downfield either). The TE's don't block well.
We have a supposed top five NFL talent at the tackle position yet can't seem to run behind him for needed yardage. The whole offense is a cluster right now and it does not bode well for the next few games.
I watched as we threw away a Heisman candidacy with Saquon due to ineffective OL play. It's a problem that has yet to be rectified since his sophomore year, save for fleeting moments last year.
Almost sounds like the problem is poor coaching, but that's just me...
Well, some of the internet coaching experts around here really need to start improving.
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We run to the right at least 80% of the time but yet our best overall lineman is on the left side and our biggest lineman is right next to him.
and the guy that is next to him looks 30# over weight and out of shape, so theres that too.
At first thought I thought it was the Big 12 mentality...but I think my initial assumption is wrong.
I just spent a few minutes reviewing MY's OC experience---2013-2019 at OKie State they had some good rushing stats while MY was there...spread the ball around to 2-3 different RB's....Texas in 2020 same but had a young Bijon Robinson w/900 yds rushing that year.
What I didn't do was break down the Rushing stats e.g. Number of Carries, YPC, Total Rushing Yards etc for the Losses in each of those 8 or so seasons...have a day job and a call at the top of the hour...anyhow trying to figure out root cause
you know Data-Facts-Objectivity
So its 2 things perhaps; O-Line play and ?, probably Line play
I just spent a few minutes reviewing MY's OC experience---2013-2019 at OKie State they had some good rushing stats while MY was there...spread the ball around to 2-3 different RB's....Texas in 2020 same but had a young Bijon Robinson w/900 yds rushing that year.
What I didn't do was break down the Rushing stats e.g. Number of Carries, YPC, Total Rushing Yards etc for the Losses in each of those 8 or so seasons...have a day job and a call at the top of the hour...anyhow trying to figure out root cause
you know Data-Facts-ObjectivitySo its 2 things perhaps; O-Line play and ?, probably Line play
None of the coaches have gained a yard- pathetic.
True I didn’t say he was our best, I just said he was our biggest
There’s blame everywhere!
1) We seldom if ever hurry-up to the line and go.
2) It’s almost always a deep handoff, never a quick toss sweep.
3) We never run the same play back-to-back unless it’s a QB sneak/push/shove.
4) We too often call third down pass routes short of the first down line.
5) Our running backs…..when having holes…..seem to miss the holes more often than hitting them.
6) We need to run the QB…..both QBs. Spring Pribula on our opponent in a hurry-up O to start a game or start the second half. For him not to play against tOSU was a massive horrorible mistake by Franklinstein.
ETC ETC ETC
1) We seldom if ever hurry-up to the line and go.
2) It’s almost always a deep handoff, never a quick toss sweep.
3) We never run the same play back-to-back unless it’s a QB sneak/push/shove.
4) We too often call third down pass routes short of the first down line.
5) Our running backs…..when having holes…..seem to miss the holes more often than hitting them.
6) We need to run the QB…..both QBs. Spring Pribula on our opponent in a hurry-up O to start a game or start the second half. For him not to play against tOSU was a massive horrorible mistake by Franklinstein.
ETC ETC ETC
At first thought I thought it was the Big 12 mentality...but I think my initial assumption is wrong.
I just spent a few minutes reviewing MY's OC experience---2013-2019 at OKie State they had some good rushing stats while MY was there...spread the ball around to 2-3 different RB's....Texas in 2020 same but had a young Bijon Robinson w/900 yds rushing that year.
What I didn't do was break down the Rushing stats e.g. Number of Carries, YPC, Total Rushing Yards etc for the Losses in each of those 8 or so seasons...have a day job and a call at the top of the hour...anyhow trying to figure out root cause
So its 2 things perhaps; O-Line play and ?, probably Line play
JayPa would have great offenses if he faced Big 12 defenses
There’s more to it.
Everyone keeps pointing out that opponents are stacking 8-9 in the box, but few people follow up by saying, “We never change the play at the line of scrimmage. We see the opposing defense selling out to stop the run, and we just bash our heads straight into it, anyway.”
THAT’S what the problem is. When an opponent is telegraphing that they know what play you’re going to run, you don’t just shrug stupidly and proceed.
Bottom line: the coaches are afraid to throw the ball. Period. That’s why only 10% of the pass plays go to the middle of the field. That’s why they’ve tried to run the ball 65 more times than they’ve tried to pass. That’s why they consistently throw for 2-3 yards on 3rd and long. And that’s why so few of their pass plays, in general, go for 10+ yards.
My application for a decision on 4th down consultant went unanswered.
Is that accurate cause just from watching it looks like we run to Olu's side a good bit?
Disagree with 1. When we get a decent run or pass play we do hurry to the line. Could we get the play in and go faster yep but we at least do rush to the line.
Agree with #2 please God put in a quick toss to Singleton and please let the TE's and WR's actually block someone...which maybe why we don't.
#3. True
#4. does the staff tell them to run short ( I seriously doubt it) or is that where the QB checks it down? That's more likely. Also expecting the WR's to get a yard or 2 after a catch is not unreasonable.
#5. True.
#6. True.
It has to be posted on a bulletin board in Rec Hall for at least two weeks first.
Stay positive.
Seems like they run Allen to the left more, and Singleton to the right. Haven't counted up plays but that's definitely what it looked like to me the past few games.
spread the field since there is no QB run threat, forget the rpo, play PSU Intramurals offense, daring the other side to be perfect in coverage and then audible into run when the LBs start vacating the box
Because you are absolutely right. Nobody is thinking deep drops or that the QB will take off. The LBs are literally running at the back or to a gap in our single set.
Disagree with 1. When we get a decent run or pass play we do hurry to the line. Could we get the play in and go faster yep but we at least do rush to the line.
Agree with #2 please God put in a quick toss to Singleton and please let the TE's and WR's actually block someone...which maybe why we don't.
#3. True
#4. does the staff tell them to run short ( I seriously doubt it) or is that where the QB checks it down? That's more likely. Also expecting the WR's to get a yard or 2 after a catch is not unreasonable.
#5. True.
#6. True.
We rush to the line but still don’t snap the ball very quickly very often HAHA!
(Sorta like Seinfeld and the car reservation episode.)
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