Sean Clifford value to the team

[blion72]

The coaching response to having a 6th year QB like SC seems to focus on "experience", which presumably means that he will not get caught up in the moment, see the field and make the best possible decisions. We have never heard a coach say that what SC brings to the table is superior talent (i.e. the NFL measuring qualities). In CFB today, the only way you have a 6th year QB starter is that they were not good enough to be drafted the prior few years, or your QB room is empty/not available.

So what exactly is the extra value qualities that SC brings over other QBs in our room? MY must feel that if any other QB had been playing, we would not be as good today as we are with SC.

A second question - would MY play SC over other QBs available, if he was injured or not at 100%? Coaches have had this tendency in the past, and maybe to the detriment of the team at times.

 

[BobPSU92]

Clifford laughs at decision making.

 

[BrucePa]

We're going to find out about your second question soon enough, because the gauntlet of Michigan-Minnesota-tOSU will very possibly bring an end to SC's college career because of injury. Not wishing injury on anyone, but stuff happens.

 

[PSU12046]

Clifford laughs at decision making.

. . . and seeing the field. He has been locking in on one receiver for six years now.

 

[Nitt1300]

5-0

 

[LionJim]

. . . and seeing the field. He has been locking in on one receiver for six years now.

That’s cold, man. But, yeah, I get the frustration. I wanted him to move on after last year, myself.

 

[blion72]

5-0

I think the record speaks for itself. What value did Sean bring over any other QB we have that led to the record? in other words, would the record be 5-0 with any of the other QBs, or does he have something that made a difference that the others do not have?

 

[Nitt1300]

I think the record speaks for itself. What value did Sean bring over any other QB we have that led to the record? in other words, would the record be 5-0 with any of the other QBs, or does he have something that made a difference that the others do not have?

he's won 5 as this year's starter- I'm not second guessing that

 

[BobPSU92]

. . . and seeing the field. He has been locking in on one receiver for six years now.

His eyes must be tired.

 

[BobPSU92]

5-0

Not good enough. I deserve more than five wins in five games.

 

[BriarwoodBash]

 

[Nitt1300]

I don't think that anyone would suggest that Clifford is the most talented QB that we have- but experience does count. And if you have a situation where you can gradually get your uber talented backup some experience without having to immediately throw him into the fire, I think you take advantage of that.

I think we're in a good spot with this QB room.

 

[psuro]

If you want to know his value, take a look back at the season last year - when he was out or was playing injured, Penn State couldn't win a game against any team with a pulse.

 

[blion72]

If you want to know his value, take a look back at the season last year - when he was out or was playing injured, Penn State couldn't win a game against any team with a pulse.

last year QB room was a bit different than current room. Again, it is just what are his qualities over the others that make the difference now?

Last year the backups were not capable, although v Rutgers CV was able to perform. he obviously improved a lot from the Iowa week, as was not #2 v Iowa.

 

[step.eng69]

We're going to find out about your second question soon enough, because the gauntlet of Michigan-Minnesota-tOSU will very possibly bring an end to SC's college career because of injury. Not wishing injury on anyone, but stuff happens.

 

[Bwifan]

The coaching response to having a 6th year QB like SC seems to focus on "experience", which presumably means that he will not get caught up in the moment, see the field and make the best possible decisions. We have never heard a coach say that what SC brings to the table is superior talent (i.e. the NFL measuring qualities). In CFB today, the only way you have a 6th year QB starter is that they were not good enough to be drafted the prior few years, or your QB room is empty/not available.

So what exactly is the extra value qualities that SC brings over other QBs in our room? MY must feel that if any other QB had been playing, we would not be as good today as we are with SC.

A second question - would MY play SC over other QBs available, if he was injured or not at 100%? Coaches have had this tendency in the past, and maybe to the detriment of the team at times.

I think first thing Allar is obviously the future of PSU at QB. I think MY and JF would rather have Clifford here to mentor Allar since coaches can only spend so much time with players. Clifford knows the offense, works teaching Allar the offense and learning to read defenses along with read the defense and if needed what to audible. Gives Allar good study habits on the field and in the classroom. Plus the longer they can keep from throwing Allar into the fire the better. We all know Clifford has a tendency to get hurt. These next 3 weeks chances are he may have to leave a game temporarily or longer by being hurt, obviously hopefully not. If it does happen Allar the coaches have said is much further along now with game reps and practices than he was 5 weeks ago. I think the coaches don't change the offense a lot when Allar goes in now, if anything may open it up more since he has the arm to really get the ball down field.

 

[marshall23]

The BWICAC laughs at statistics that prove them wrong.

 

[PSU12046]

The BWICAC laughs at statistics that prove them wrong.

Now if he could only do that for the rest of the field:

Ranking college football's top 25 quarterbacks in 2022

Sporting News played it safe with Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud in last year's top 25 quarterback rankings. SN ranked Young at No. 11 and Stroud at No. 18. Too safe.

www.sportingnews.com

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

I think the record speaks for itself. What value did Sean bring over any other QB we have that led to the record? in other words, would the record be 5-0 with any of the other QBs, or does he have something that made a difference that the others do not have?

He has a great looking sister!!

 

[Nohow]

He has a great looking sister!!

Flag!

 

[PSU12046]

He has a great looking sister!!

I'll pick up the flag for you

 

[Nohow]

I'll pick up the flag for you

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You can’t fool me That’s SC in drag.

 

[Blair10]

You can’t fool me That’s SC in drag.

You guys are too much.

 

[BW Lion]

The coaching response to having a 6th year QB like SC seems to focus on "experience", which presumably means that he will not get caught up in the moment, see the field and make the best possible decisions. We have never heard a coach say that what SC brings to the table is superior talent (i.e. the NFL measuring qualities). In CFB today, the only way you have a 6th year QB starter is that they were not good enough to be drafted the prior few years, or your QB room is empty/not available.

So what exactly is the extra value qualities that SC brings over other QBs in our room? MY must feel that if any other QB had been playing, we would not be as good today as we are with SC.

A second question - would MY play SC over other QBs available, if he was injured or not at 100%? Coaches have had this tendency in the past, and maybe to the detriment of the team at times.

tl;dr

 

[MaconNitt]

whoah now now woahhhh

 

[blion72]

Now if he could only do that for the rest of the field:

Ranking college football's top 25 quarterbacks in 2022

Sporting News played it safe with Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud in last year's top 25 quarterback rankings. SN ranked Young at No. 11 and Stroud at No. 18. Too safe.

www.sportingnews.com

one talent he has above at least DA and CV is running. he can turn a bad play into a winner with his running. this asset sets him apart. When he does not run, the DEF play different against us. We need his running.

 

[MaconNitt]

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[psuro]

last year QB room was a bit different than current room. Again, it is just what are his qualities over the others that make the difference now?

Last year the backups were not capable, although v Rutgers CV was able to perform. he obviously improved a lot from the Iowa week, as was not #2 v Iowa.

You just answered your own question. The QB room has changed and yet he remains the starter. That’s the value he has to this team.

 

[34truth]

The coaching response to having a 6th year QB like SC seems to focus on "experience", which presumably means that he will not get caught up in the moment, see the field and make the best possible decisions. We have never heard a coach say that what SC brings to the table is superior talent (i.e. the NFL measuring qualities). In CFB today, the only way you have a 6th year QB starter is that they were not good enough to be drafted the prior few years, or your QB room is empty/not available.

So what exactly is the extra value qualities that SC brings over other QBs in our room? MY must feel that if any other QB had been playing, we would not be as good today as we are with SC.

A second question - would MY play SC over other QBs available, if he was injured or not at 100%? Coaches have had this tendency in the past, and maybe to the detriment of the team at times.

He is literally an adult (drinking age) in the QB room.

 

[SurgeOne]

The coaching response to having a 6th year QB like SC seems to focus on "experience", which presumably means that he will not get caught up in the moment, see the field and make the best possible decisions. We have never heard a coach say that what SC brings to the table is superior talent (i.e. the NFL measuring qualities). In CFB today, the only way you have a 6th year QB starter is that they were not good enough to be drafted the prior few years, or your QB room is empty/not available.

So what exactly is the extra value qualities that SC brings over other QBs in our room? MY must feel that if any other QB had been playing, we would not be as good today as we are with SC.

A second question - would MY play SC over other QBs available, if he was injured or not at 100%? Coaches have had this tendency in the past, and maybe to the detriment of the team at times.

The parents of true Allar and Pribula have been effusive in their praise of how wonderful Sean has been and acclimating them to college life and college football. Well maybe not the best talent he’s a great leader and a really good kid.

 

[BobPSU92]

The parents of true Allar and Pribula have been effusive in their praise of how wonderful Sean has been and acclimating them to college life and college football. Well maybe not the best talent he’s a great leader and a really good kid.

Clifford from his rocking chair: Who ya calling kid?!

 

[blion72]

The parents of true Allar and Pribula have been effusive in their praise of how wonderful Sean has been and acclimating them to college life and college football. Well maybe not the best talent he’s a great leader and a really good kid.

There is no doubt that he is a good mentor and leader. He is also a great runner. For on the field results, if he is not running, one of his greatest values is being lost.

 

[Bvillebaron]

If you want to know his value, take a look back at the season last year - when he was out or was playing injured, Penn State couldn't win a game against any team with a pulse.

Exactly. PSU was 5-0 and boat racing Iowa until Clifford got hurt. He can be exasperating at times but the fact is they don’t pull out the Purdue game if Clifford wasn’t playing.

 

[Bvillebaron]

one talent he has above at least DA and CV is running. he can turn a bad play into a winner with his running. this asset sets him apart. When he does not run, the DEF play different against us. We need his running.

I agree but the one thing I would like to see from him is Trace McSorley’s talent for keeping his eyes up the field and looking for open receivers when he breaks the pocket.

 

[WyomingLion]

last year QB room was a bit different than current room. Again, it is just what are his qualities over the others that make the difference now?

Last year the backups were not capable, although v Rutgers CV was able to perform. he obviously improved a lot from the Iowa week, as was not #2 v Iowa.

I would suggest that we really don’t know if he improved a lot. Maybe after seeing the number 2 they KNEW he was not the answer.

 

[PSU87]

Exactly. PSU was 5-0 and boat racing Iowa until Clifford got hurt. He can be exasperating at times but the fact is they don’t pull out the Purdue game if Clifford wasn’t playing.

Let's be honest....Clifford's errant throw on the pick six put us in the position of having to pull it out.

Not an overall comment on this thread....just that specific point.

 

[Ludd]

Dan Marino sat behind David Woodley for almost half the season his rookie year. Don Shula (who was a pretty good coach) said Marino was probably ready from day one, but you go with experience and ease your young guy into it. I know the coaches on this board know more than Franklin and Shula, but they seem to have had more coaching success than the posters on this board.

 

[psuro]

I agree but the one thing I would like to see from him is Trace McSorley’s talent for keeping his eyes up the field and looking for open receivers when he breaks the pocket.

Just an interesting factoid.

Since Clifford has been the starter, PSU's worst losses were by 16 points to Maryland and 20 points against Iowa, both in 2020 - and I don't think Clifford started the Iowa game, Levis did.

McSorely quarterbacked the team to a 39 point at Michigan in 2016, and a 35 point loss at Michigan in 2018.