SEC/B1G Committee
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The latest delay in a CFP format change - which needs unanimity - is a proposal from WSU president Kirk Schulz seeking guarantees of voting rights/revenue distribution for Pac-12/Pac-2 beyond 2025
Personally I hope the P2 wins this argument. It's no fault of their own their conference imploded and they're the only ones left standing. WSU president is fighting to keep those last 2 institutions in the mix and facing overwhelming odds. I find something in that position very admirable.
Flame away.
Personally I hope the P2 wins this argument. It's no fault of their own their conference imploded and they're the only ones left standing. WSU president is fighting to keep those last 2 institutions in the mix and facing overwhelming odds. I find something in that position very admirable.
Flame away.
I like it just for the chaos factor.
Question for everyone, what would you do as those two teams? Join a lesser conference and just settle? Invite 6-8 new teams and try to remain a P5 conference?
The former is more likely than the latter. The latter would be more likely to save their position as an autonomous conference, but I don't think either the college football authorities or the public would buy it.
Unfortunately either way, they may stand to lose significant revenue.
All 10 conferences, plus ND, receive a base revenue distribution. The P12 received $79.41M. That’s just for being a member of the LLC. As long as O can be a member of that LLC and split $79.41M between 2 schools why would I join a G5 conference? The CFP is currently getting $440M/yr from ESPN. It’s estimated that ESPN is looking in the $1.3B/yr range when they renegotiate the new contract in 2026. I’m riding that wave as long as I can.
I understand, but it's going to have a limited shelf life as they are, but expenses are forever.
Might not be as bad. They’re guaranteed a huge distribution from the CFP that they only have to split between the 2.
Hey, what's to keep the "conference" office from skimming? Those people have a lot of motive.
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Getting a full conference payout between 2 schools would be nice.
I guess I think of it like this. If two random schools suddenly claimed to be a conference, and wanted full payouts, they'd have to qualify as a conference somehow. There has to be a threshold spelled out somewhere.
Maybe we've never put to paper stripping a conference of its status based on that threshold, but I bet people are working on it right now.
I guess I think of it like this. If two random schools suddenly claimed to be a conference, and wanted full payouts, they'd have to qualify as a conference somehow. There has to be a threshold spelled out somewhere.
Maybe we've never put to paper stripping a conference of its status based on that threshold, but I bet people are working on it right now.
They would have to be members of the LLC. Nobody is getting admitted to the LLC doing that. The issue is the P12 is already a member. I guess they could always form another LLC to govern the cfp and leave them out. It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
The two schools could simply hold a vote to replace the commish. They could stop that pretty easily.
It will be a nice bonus, but that won't be able to compensate for the expected 20-30 million annual revenue lost
(Comparing PAC-12 payout to MW payout)
IF they’re able to hang on in the current format, and the TV contract triples as has been suggested, then the P12 stands to get $240M/yr just from the CFP distribution. You can do the math split 2 ways. I hope it happens. But my guess is another LLC is created that excludes them to avoid that scenario.
It's not going to be this cut and dried. Conferences have functionaries other than commissioners. I predict that if they aren't part of some sort of merger with the Mountain West and/or this thing goes to court with two schools as the only two members, their lawyers will pluck them like chickens. 35 percent of what is paid out is pretty standard.
It will be circumvented, you can bet the house on it. How many years does the new CFP contract cover? They aren't going to keep paying people who bring no value.
The current deal is through 2025. I’ve read they’re looking at a 6 year deal in 2026.
They’re currently paying people that have no value. The MAC gets the same distribution the SEC gets. I don’t doubt they’ll figure it out. Just hope the P2 makes it tough as hell on them!!
I don't know why you would wish that. Entertainment value, I suppose. I do enjoy mayhem myself, just not this particular mayhem. This is the kind of discussion that gets its legs from it being a slow Saturday with not much else going on.
I don't know why you would wish that. Entertainment value, I suppose. I do enjoy mayhem myself, just not this particular mayhem. This is the kind of discussion that gets its legs from it being a slow Saturday with not much else going on.
generally bc I don’t like the destruction of the P12. Don’t care for the expansion and consolidation. They might have have stepped in it here, and I’m all for it!!
I don't think the CFP syndicate, or whatever it is, is culpable. I think the blame lies at the conference level, and also with the individual schools that move.
The Big 12 had good leadership and they are going to do pretty well. In the case of the Pac 12, it was their leadership's lack of initiative over several years to get to work on a decent TV deal. That proved to be their undoing.
Whatever happens bad to the ACC, they deserve it.
For The Pac 12 disintegration? You have to ask yourself why this has never happened to another major conference. If this were either systemic or malicious, odds are it would have happened to another top-tier league before now. This is on the Pac 12 brain trust.
Don’t disagree. What I’m saying is SoCal, UW, and Oregon are culpable for WSU/OSU being the P2 and getting to split all the CFP revenue 50/50.