Sidney ruled not eligible

MSUCostanza

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If you would read KV's blog, you'd see that. It was something that was totally unexpected due to the way the lawyer has been handling it.
 

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I mean we would have been stupid to not try. I mean they aren't going to be able to get us with anything. The thing that sucks, is that it was a damn witch hunt as soon as he signed with us. Had he signed with USC or definately UCLA, nothing more would have been heard.
 

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it's complete crap to me that the NCAA can take this "guilty until proven innocent" stance and no one can do anything about it.
 

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This thing is going to court. That's been pretty apparent for a while now. This is far from being over. And Seinfeld is right, the "guilty til proven innocent" stance is ridiculous.
 

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IF he did receive something, it came from SoCal or Ucla and we will get the penalty IF he goes to court which he will and he will win. Now, do we play him or do we not? Hell yeah play him!
I believe he will become eligible sometime this year, thats what I'm hearing but who knows?
Btw, the courts have backed away from the Ncaa in the past, this could be different as now we are talking about privacy act involvement from the Ncaa.
 

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BlindDawg said:
This thing is going to court. That's been pretty apparent for a while now. This is far from being over. And Seinfeld is right, the "guilty til proven innocent" stance is ridiculous.
The problem about court is that the NCAA will issue subpoenas for the financial records. Sidney's lawyer will fight those and may or may not win. If something is there he needs to think twice about rushing to court. Some others seem to fear MSU will get hit. I don't see how state could be hit with any penalties. MSU did nothing wrong here.
 

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It's the what if, say it goes to court and the court says he can play after the Ncaa said no, IF we play him we could face some problems.
 

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The story didn't say he'd been ruled ineligible. It said he was "<font face="Georgia" size="2">non-certified due to non-response." I think that still leaves the door open to eligibility if they get what they are asking for. Jackson and the family may never provide it, but so far he has not been ruled ineligible because the NCAA does not have evidence to rule him ineligible.</font>
 

FQDawg

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if it came to that. I believe that's what happened to Memphis but someone please correct me if I am wrong.
 

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I can't see MSU letting him play until he is cleared by the NCAA. Even without him we have a great team coming back and way too much to lose by potentially forfeiting games.
 

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and then forfeit them all if we have to. It doesnt 17'ing matter after the fact. They cant take away the excitement, exposure, and the magic of playing on that Final Four Saturday.

Now, if Stansbury pulls his usual 2nd round choke with Sidney on the team, then its all for naught
 

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Coach34 said:
Now, if Stansbury pulls his usual 2nd round choke with Sidney on the team, then its all for naught
You just had to pull that out of your ***. Didn't you peaches?
 
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Although that is not what the article says, I've been saying for months that we'll never seen him play for MSU.
 

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Tell the Sidney's that regardless if a court injunction gives him the right to play, he's not gonna sniff the floor unless he gets official certification. If the family is clean, I don't get what the big deal is about submitting the bank records and tax returns the NCAA is asking for.

Final 4 or 1st round blowout, I don't want us to forfeit a damn thing just because Renardo Sr. was on the take. We have enough potential without him.
 

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It's been obvious for a couple of months that the NCAA was never going to rule him eligible without the tax returns and bank statements and that Sidney's attorney was never going to provide them. A lawsuit will be filed next week, if not tomorrow. And I agree with Coach34, if he does get a court injunction, I'd be more than happy to vacate a Final Four appearance if the NCAA makes us forfeit it later.
 

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Seinfeld said:
it's complete crap to me that the NCAA can take this "guilty until proven innocent" stance and no one can do anything about it.

That's the way the NCAA works in all areas. They assume you are ineligible until you prove to them that you are eligible with paperwork. The NCAA wouldn't work if they operated under innocent until proven guilty.

I had always thought the Sidneys would be able to stall long enough to be cleared mid-season, but it's not looking that way now. And as someone said, if it goes to court, there is a good chance the Sidneys are forced to reveal the documents that they clearly don't want to reveal for whatever reason, and that would spell the end for them.

Honestly, I don't think USC, UCLA, or MSU has anything to worry about here. I feel like the money source is either agents or shoe companies, and that only affects the eligibility of the player, not the school, unless for some reason you play him and he's ruled ineligible later.
 

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what's the harm? If it was my son, and he really wanted to play I would send them in a heartbeat. Whether or not they have the right to require them really isn't the question. That won't be answered most likely until it's too late.

I'm telling you, Donald Jackson gains nothing by Sidney getting in school. The faster he is cleared the faster Jackson's name is out of the papers.