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This one will be interesting to keep an eye on... Easier competition means a lower probability of a 5* flop and better chance of making it to the draft healthy. But will the nfl punish him and lower their ratings of him due to the lower competition level?
I don’t blame the kid for taking the money, but what is the bigger picture when the cream of this year’s crop is willing to compete at a lower level for the right price? Or put another way, how many kids would love the opportunity to compete against the very best, but never get the opportunity OR the millions of dollars?With the news of Travis Hunter flipping to Jackson State for millions of dollars thanks to NIL, I am thinking we need to find a way to connect a bit more with all of our many CEO alumni around the country... Our highly esteemed business school could come in handy here.
SIAP but Maryland flipped Ramon Brown from Virginia Tech. So 3 flips in the last 24 hours for Maryland.
On3 Recruits on Twitter: "Four-star running back and top-300 recruit Ramon Brown flips to Maryland. https://t.co/0caAQkYYfb" / Twitter
On3 Recruits on Twitter: "Four-star running back and top-300 recruit Ramon Brown flips to Maryland. https://t.co/0caAQkYYfb" / Twitter
NFL will not punish him. If he's worthy, somebody drafts him regardless. Bigger issue is he's probably gotta dominate from day 1. Any struggles and he will fall hard.
I'm tired of these guys already. Let's move on to next year's class.
Four hours and they‘ve contributed nothing to PSU on the field. Pfft.
The coaches have just not developed them
Nope. Reed was recruited as a Safety and played a good bit at Safety this season, especially the last few games, so that is 6, a true 3 deep.
And Wheatley was reportedly recruited as a Safety, but practiced his true freshman season at CB due to reportedly excellent coverage skills and could go back to Safety if needed.
Lytton has also reportedly played Safety in the past.
So that's possibly 7 or 8, and if there was a need a CB could be moved instead of Lytton.
Plenty of Safety's barring significant injuries. And really plenty of experienced Safety's with Brown as a returning starter, Ellis being a very experienced DB, and Reed getting PT and looking good as a true freshman, Lytton being an experienced DB and looking like a headhunter on special teams in 2021, and the addition of the JC Safety Mills. There are other positions, such as DE where it takes 4-5 DE's to get through games fresh and the OL, with less experience and more to worry about. But Franklin will look at all possibilities and positions in the Portal if he believes he can improve the team with a player that fits at PSU.
Who? Lincoln Riley?
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I wouldn't think the NFL would punish him. Deion's name is probably still held in high regard in NFL circles. If the kid gets Deion's blessing that he's NFL-ready, some team would bite.
247 has Reed and Weatley as CB on their Matrix. They also don't have Brown listed at all, not that it matters. So they actually have only 4 safties for 2022 on their Matrix. Of course one or more of the CB/LB can be converted. Also RLR has Flowers as a Safety.
If Brown leaves, there's not much experience at all in that room and it might be smart to grab a safety with big boy experience in the portal.
Also this:
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Early enrollees include Allar, Pribula, Singleton, Saunders, Shelton, Allen, Cross, Miller, Durant, Nelson, and Evans.
Did he sign?
Yep, the FOS scholarship matrix does well on the numbers but has obvious errors in positions. There are going to be years that both Safety's move on, especially if they are very good Safety's. Even if Brown moves on, which doesn't seem probable due to how well Brisker improved his NFL stock by coming back, the numbers in the secondary look good partly due to the staff bringing in the transfers Dixon and Lytton who should both return for 2022. And from what I saw and the opinions of others, Reed looks like he going to be a very good Safety sooner than later. Ellis seems to have settled in at Safety as well. I guess we'll get an idea of what Franklin thinks of the Safety roster by how hard he pursues a transfer Safety.
A better source for position depth is the PSU roster, which can easily be sorted by position, number, name, class.... by just clicking on the heading at the top.
Allow me to be the first to say that I’m really pissed about the quality and numbers in the 2023 class. At this late date we’re only ranked 3# and probably fading fast.
A nice list of EE's that include a good many that could contribute - the RB's, WRs, OL particularly Nelson.
The FOS calculates the max number of EE's, which are back counted against the previous class, based upon the previous class and it's EE's, and they say 11 is the max. Wonder if it was first come first served, or if the staff picked those they thought had the best chance to see the field (i.e. may be needed on the field) as freshmen based upon those that could do it academically.
This should be a bigger story. I remember when everyone was worried the 'rich would get richer' but what this proves is money from Jackson State spends just as well as money from Alabama or Penn State or USC. I think this is great. But, I don't like the optics here - Sanders goes on Barstool Sports (and works for/with them) and announces something big for Signing Day. Barstool had to be in on it, right? Did they essentially pay him to go to Jackson State to help out Deion (and to generate publicity for themselves)? Especially since his NIL deal (with Barstool) is announced immediately. The downside here is that if you think Bama, LSU, Texas, A&M, OSU, FSU, Georgia, etc., are going to let this happen to them again you are sadly mistaken...
This is pretty legendary though:
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How do you prevent it?
Between coaches leaving lifetime, stay put jobs, a kid's reclassification for NIL that enrolled him one year early only for him to transfer 3 months later, and now the consensus #1 recruit going to a small school for NIL... it's a free for all.
Some compare this to NFL free agency, but college now has very little structure.
Jerry McGuire: "show me the money."
What's even more troublesome is Barstool has a gambling arm.
What I mean is Bama will say - ‘how much are they paying you; we’ll double it.’ I agree iou can’t stop it but damn there should be some rules about conflict of interest and more transparency.
In theory, what is stopping a school from signing every kid to some NIL deal worth a million if (big IF) you become a starter, throw 30 TDs, pass for 3500 yards...?
Yeah, maybe 3-4 might accomplish these lofty goals, but it's about the ability.
It's crazy that the #1 recruit can ink a deal on par or better than the starting QB at Bama, the most high profile position of the past 5 years, at a school whose games are unwatchable without a cable/satellite/streaming upgrade package.
They're already RBF (Ruined By Franklin). Pfft...lead with love.
RBF needs to be added to the vocabulary here.
I think that you are right. Except perhaps for a QB, the NFL is all about what cannot be taught. There are actually rumors that a certain LB, who cannot tackle, may be a high draft pick. That speaks volumes.
Interesting story on Barham. . .
The Gamecocks entered Saturday as the favorite on the 247Sports Crystal Ball. A little more than an hour before his scheduled announcement, several picks were switched to Maryland.
Then Barham committed to South Carolina. Four days later, he spurned the Gamecocks, to stay closer to home.
“I can’t say it’s a surprise,” Beamer said, during his Early Signing Period press conference. “This particular young man committed on Saturday (and) about 10 minutes later, I got a call from somebody in the know up there that said, just so you know, it’s all part of a plan. He’s going to flip on Wednesday, to go to Maryland. … I can’t sit here and tell you that I was shocked, but when you’re on the phone with a young man, as recently (or) as late as 10:30, 11 o’clock (Tuesday) night – he and the mom were telling me how they’re so thankful they found a home.
“How appreciative they are for how we do things, how they knew South Carolina was the place for them on his very first visit to South Carolina and how excited they are for the future, to be feeling pretty good about things. Certainly, the young man you’re referring to, some strange things happened overnight, but that’s a story for another day.
Gamecocks coach addresses the one that got away Wednesday (247sports.com)
The Gamecocks entered Saturday as the favorite on the 247Sports Crystal Ball. A little more than an hour before his scheduled announcement, several picks were switched to Maryland.
Then Barham committed to South Carolina. Four days later, he spurned the Gamecocks, to stay closer to home.
“I can’t say it’s a surprise,” Beamer said, during his Early Signing Period press conference. “This particular young man committed on Saturday (and) about 10 minutes later, I got a call from somebody in the know up there that said, just so you know, it’s all part of a plan. He’s going to flip on Wednesday, to go to Maryland. … I can’t sit here and tell you that I was shocked, but when you’re on the phone with a young man, as recently (or) as late as 10:30, 11 o’clock (Tuesday) night – he and the mom were telling me how they’re so thankful they found a home.
“How appreciative they are for how we do things, how they knew South Carolina was the place for them on his very first visit to South Carolina and how excited they are for the future, to be feeling pretty good about things. Certainly, the young man you’re referring to, some strange things happened overnight, but that’s a story for another day.
Gamecocks coach addresses the one that got away Wednesday (247sports.com)
I think it has to do with their docu series they have about Deion and Jackson State (which is probably their best produced content to date). JMO. Also probably trying to grow their college football show and pro football shows.
I thought it was shared here that Ewers autograph NIL deal required him to start 8 games by the end of '22?
Lots of questions.
The old message board rumors, ah yes. Did you see the NIL contract Ewers signed? There’s really no question. No incentive based NIL deals.
Who set this requirement of no incentive based deals? I’m assuming the NCAA?
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