Since college players are now pro’s without contracts…

Gamecockbobbymac

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College football has effectively gone professional and is now less stable than the NFL. In the NFL you have players under contract so there is some continuity and predictabilit’s as to who will be on your team from year to year. College football is now so unstable that an entire college team can leave for greener (in every respect) pastures with no notice. I predict there will be several side effects. First, there will be teams who cannot safely field a team for bowl games due to the number of defections after the regular season and some bowls willl get cancelled.. There will be some schools with wealthy alumni who can simply buy a team. How long will college athletics survive if alumni who have loyalty to a school disparity of supporting professional athletes who don’t have loyalty to a school. I isuggest a couple changes to adjust to the new reality and to save college football. We need to start treating players as the pro’s that they now are. Similar to professional baseball a luxury tax on NIL deals for teams with NIL money over a certain amount should be considered. If the school exceeds that amount, they lose scholarships. If a college offers and a player accepts a multi year scholarship instead of a one year scholarship and the player then leaves early (other than to the NFL draft) thatis a breach of contract and the player has to either repay the school for the tuition he would have paid absent the scholarship or otherwise be barred from playing for a year. NFL players cannot simply leave for another team if they are under contract. If college players want to be treated as pro’s then they should be hel accountable lIn the same way professional players are. What say you?
 

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1 year free agency is what College is now. You now get commitments for no longer than 1 year. Each year its rerecruiting each player. If they dont play enough they leave. If they do great they leave. This is the biggest disaster to hit amatuer athletics ever and has opened a door to destruction. If something isn't done shortly programs will have to start disbanding. A Coach can't recruit high school guys and recruit his whole team and recruit a portal. It has to end.
 

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1 year free agency is what College is now. You now get commitments for no longer than 1 year. Each year its rerecruiting each player. If they dont play enough they leave. If they do great they leave. This is the biggest disaster to hit amatuer athletics ever and has opened a door to destruction. If something isn't done shortly programs will have to start disbanding. A Coach can't recruit high school guys and recruit his whole team and recruit a portal. It has to end.
This.
 

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College football has effectively gone professional and is now less stable than the NFL. In the NFL you have players under contract so there is some continuity and predictabilit’s as to who will be on your team from year to year. College football is now so unstable that an entire college team can leave for greener (in every respect) pastures with no notice. I predict there will be several side effects. First, there will be teams who cannot safely field a team for bowl games due to the number of defections after the regular season and some bowls willl get cancelled.. There will be some schools with wealthy alumni who can simply buy a team. How long will college athletics survive if alumni who have loyalty to a school disparity of supporting professional athletes who don’t have loyalty to a school. I isuggest a couple changes to adjust to the new reality and to save college football. We need to start treating players as the pro’s that they now are. Similar to professional baseball a luxury tax on NIL deals for teams with NIL money over a certain amount should be considered. If the school exceeds that amount, they lose scholarships. If a college offers and a player accepts a multi year scholarship instead of a one year scholarship and the player then leaves early (other than to the NFL draft) thatis a breach of contract and the player has to either repay the school for the tuition he would have paid absent the scholarship or otherwise be barred from playing for a year. NFL players cannot simply leave for another team if they are under contract. If college players want to be treated as pro’s then they should be hel accountable lIn the same way professional players are. What say you?
As I have said before, if the NFL had unlimited free agency with no contractual obligations there would be total chaos.
This is exactly what we now have in the NCAA and it is total chaos. Players come and go as they please without obligation.
Is this ignorance by the NCAA or intentional? Whoever thought this would work and was a good idea should be fired and publicly ridiculed!
 

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It’s going to feel more rare to have a player for 4 years than have guys that transfer in.

sad thing is, guys like Jaheim Bell would’ve been remembered as solid Gamecock players and meant something around here. Most of his time was here. Had big games here. But he’ll play at FSU and that’s where he finished. Where will he say he played when introducing if he makes it to the NFL? But the biggest thing he did is that he really won’t ever fit at either school. He’s not a 4 year Gamecock or Seminole. These guys will feel this for years to come. They won’t fit in like the guys who played somewhere their entire career.
 

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As I have said before, if the NFL had unlimited free agency with no contractual obligations there would be total chaos.
This is exactly what we now have in the NCAA and it is total chaos. Players come and go as they please without obligation.
Is this ignorance by the NCAA or intentional? Whoever thought this would work and was a good idea should be fired and publicly ridiculed!
Limit the portal to a single move and this will change
 

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As I have said before, if the NFL had unlimited free agency with no contractual obligations there would be total chaos.
This is exactly what we now have in the NCAA and it is total chaos. Players come and go as they please without obligation.
Is this ignorance by the NCAA or intentional? Whoever thought this would work and was a good idea should be fired and publicly ridiculed!
Since when has anyone with the NCAA had a good idea or given a crap if it was? Hard to be ridiculed when you don't give a **** and don't have to be accountable.
 

Trapman71

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This is all a result because a few ex-players got upset with EA because they were not being compensated for players with their likeness. So they sued and a judge agreed. Mark Emerett is useless weakling
 

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College football has effectively gone professional and is now less stable than the NFL. In the NFL you have players under contract so there is some continuity and predictabilit’s as to who will be on your team from year to year. College football is now so unstable that an entire college team can leave for greener (in every respect) pastures with no notice. I predict there will be several side effects. First, there will be teams who cannot safely field a team for bowl games due to the number of defections after the regular season and some bowls willl get cancelled.. There will be some schools with wealthy alumni who can simply buy a team. How long will college athletics survive if alumni who have loyalty to a school disparity of supporting professional athletes who don’t have loyalty to a school. I isuggest a couple changes to adjust to the new reality and to save college football. We need to start treating players as the pro’s that they now are. Similar to professional baseball a luxury tax on NIL deals for teams with NIL money over a certain amount should be considered. If the school exceeds that amount, they lose scholarships. If a college offers and a player accepts a multi year scholarship instead of a one year scholarship and the player then leaves early (other than to the NFL draft) thatis a breach of contract and the player has to either repay the school for the tuition he would have paid absent the scholarship or otherwise be barred from playing for a year. NFL players cannot simply leave for another team if they are under contract. If college players want to be treated as pro’s then they should be hel accountable lIn the same way professional players are. What say you?
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1 year free agency is what College is now. You now get commitments for no longer than 1 year. Each year its rerecruiting each player. If they dont play enough they leave. If they do great they leave. This is the biggest disaster to hit amatuer athletics ever and has opened a door to destruction. If something isn't done shortly programs will have to start disbanding. A Coach can't recruit high school guys and recruit his whole team and recruit a portal. It has to end.

I’ll give you one guess as to how long scholarships given by schools are guaranteed for. One guess.

One year.

That’s how long every university commits to any student-athlete. So why should it be different the other way around?
 

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It’s going to feel more rare to have a player for 4 years than have guys that transfer in.

sad thing is, guys like Jaheim Bell would’ve been remembered as solid Gamecock players and meant something around here. Most of his time was here. Had big games here. But he’ll play at FSU and that’s where he finished. Where will he say he played when introducing if he makes it to the NFL? But the biggest thing he did is that he really won’t ever fit at either school. He’s not a 4 year Gamecock or Seminole. These guys will feel this for years to come. They won’t fit in like the guys who played somewhere their entire career.
I guess they might just say their high school like a lot of players do, since college is now the pros too they might as treat it like jump from HS to the pros, and their college team(s) were just their first pro team(s).
 

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Clearly, something has to change. This IS total chaos. We all know players have been getting money under the table for decades. I remember the old joke that IPTAY stood for " I Pay Two Athletes A Year". Now it's all out in the open. I don't have a solution but hopefully this issue will be addressed soon. Otherwise college football (and other sports) are in jeopardy.
 

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Limit the portal to a single move and this will change


Or make the players sit out a year after transferring. How many players would transfer if they had to sit out.

I think that small move (if enforced and not made comical by exemptions) would eliminate most of them.

Then we'd be down to how to control NIL with recruiting.
 
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I’ll give you one guess as to how long scholarships given by schools are guaranteed for. One guess.

One year.

That’s how long every university commits to any student-athlete. So why should it be different the other way around?
While that's technically true, aside from the one-year scholarships offered as a reward to walk-on players, how often do coaches yank scholarships from players based purely on athletic performance (no behavioral or grade issues factored in)?
 

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While that's technically true, aside from the one-year scholarships offered as a reward to walk-on players, how often do coaches yank scholarships from players based purely on athletic performance (no behavioral or grade issues factored in)?
Rarely compared to mass defections by players
 

Prestonyte

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I’ll give you one guess as to how long scholarships given by schools are guaranteed for. One guess.

One year.

That’s how long every university commits to any student-athlete. So why should it be different the other way around?
If they don't pull a major screw up they are on scholarship until they finish school. Scholarships are not pulled willy nilly and are even honored when they stop playing for med reasons. This "college free agency" is totally different regarding impact on the sport.
 

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I’ll give you one guess as to how long scholarships given by schools are guaranteed for. One guess.

One year.

That’s how long every university commits to any student-athlete. So why should it be different the other way around?
Correct me if am wrong but I believe schools are allowed to give out scholarships guaranteed for longer than 1 year if the coach wants to.
 
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Do you think there will come a time when the loss of revenue and lack of interest forces some schools to just shut down their football programs? If you can't compete and conferences see you as a money pit and kicks you out they may not have an option. No one wants to watch a terrible product regardless of who they play and without money to buy players they become obsolete in the world of College Football.
 

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College football has effectively gone professional and is now less stable than the NFL. In the NFL you have players under contract so there is some continuity and predictabilit’s as to who will be on your team from year to year. College football is now so unstable that an entire college team can leave for greener (in every respect) pastures with no notice. I predict there will be several side effects. First, there will be teams who cannot safely field a team for bowl games due to the number of defections after the regular season and some bowls willl get cancelled.. There will be some schools with wealthy alumni who can simply buy a team. How long will college athletics survive if alumni who have loyalty to a school disparity of supporting professional athletes who don’t have loyalty to a school. I isuggest a couple changes to adjust to the new reality and to save college football. We need to start treating players as the pro’s that they now are. Similar to professional baseball a luxury tax on NIL deals for teams with NIL money over a certain amount should be considered. If the school exceeds that amount, they lose scholarships. If a college offers and a player accepts a multi year scholarship instead of a one year scholarship and the player then leaves early (other than to the NFL draft) thatis a breach of contract and the player has to either repay the school for the tuition he would have paid absent the scholarship or otherwise be barred from playing for a year. NFL players cannot simply leave for another team if they are under contract. If college players want to be treated as pro’s then they should be hel accountable lIn the same way professional players are. What say you?
Agree! Except the “ Leaving For The NFL” thing. Leave for any reason is breech of contract.
 

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Do you think there will come a time when the loss of revenue and lack of interest forces some schools to just shut down their football programs? If you can't compete and conferences see you as a money pit and kicks you out they may not have an option. No one wants to watch a terrible product regardless of who they play and without money to buy players they become obsolete in the world of College Football.

No. It’s still football with historical fanbases and interest - there will always be eyes on TV’s to watch it. (At least for the next couple of generations.)

college football was never really profitable until recent history - but still the schools funded it backside it was part of the school. It won’t die - water finds its level. And the finances of college football with the new court rulings are no different.