So I think Nick Saban may
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I laughed when I read these tweets...
[FONT="]Spoke to a former SEC assistant on the Saban-Jimbo blowup in It Just Means More land: "There has ALWAYS been an honor amongst thieves mantra in the league and those two just called each others wives fat to a global audience."— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) May 19, 2022 [/FONT]
Yes, when elite teams play elite teams and when mediocre teams play mediocre teams you often get entertaining games. The others usually not so much. My only original response was about you saying college football never having competitive balance anyway, which I agree with to a point but what we are about to see is going to be way worse than anything we've ever seen before. I never said anything about anyone telling their child not to take the money if its there.
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That about sums it all up.
I'm just sitting here watching all of this speculating when the budget for both programs in the college football championship will total 8 figures collectively. Won't be long.
No collegiate program, has MORE insurmountable advantages, than the ones created through the winning, via 3/4 century of football player compensation, at the University of Alabama.
Everything else they have built, and have been able to manipulate, came on top of that.
Saban, through great effort and savvy, has taken full advantage of these advantages.
Everything else they have built, and have been able to manipulate, came on top of that.
Saban, through great effort and savvy, has taken full advantage of these advantages.
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Sour Grapes from the biggest hypocrite in USA! He's been using boosters to do the same for year and finally got outbid. He knows his days are numbered if he doesn't get the best talent.
He's not wrong, but I do agree with you 100%. Bama had the patent on the old system. They are no longer top dog. While I do agree that they pay recruits like everybody else, they don't do it to the level of a NIL-equipped Texas, Texas A&M, Miami, USC can, so they are threatened. IF unfettered pay for play is allowed to continue (and I don't think it will), then the haves are going to shift, and small-to-mid size colleges in poorer states are going to have to adjust. Bama will not be able to simply rely on out-recruiting everyone else and playing fundamental football.
This is one adaptation that Saban won't be able to make, to the extent needed to be the top dawg.
HOWEVER -
All these kids with their hands out, will not make the best teammates. So to me, that's the dynamic to watch - the hardworking blue-collar non-NIL teams of the world (Alabama and Auburn, I guess are examples) vs. the bling-blinging instagram porsche driving primadonnas at Texas and Miami.
You called it correctly. Jimbo was reading from the Hugh Freeze script in his press conference. "Don't slander these kids and their families" or words to that effect.
https://dailycaller.com/2022/05/19/...layers-alabama-texas-am-viral-video-response/
This is accurate. We are winning 6-8 games per year, but we’re 10x further behind Alabama than we were in the late 80’s when we were 1-10 and they were still building national title teams.
College football flat out blows as a product now. All there is to it.
He's calling out God.. lol
“Some people think they’re God,” Fisher says. “Go dig into how God did his deal, you may find out about a guy, a lot of things you don’t want to know. We build him up to be the czar of football. Go dig into his past.”
https://www.si.com/college/2022/05/...lb_YOpPLLAf7-r5gHqHV63dY7AahHCYgLtD4Stbthe47k
That wasn't the key to his statement. What blew me away is him saying they didn't buy one single player....now that's rich. The very one who has been paying players FOR YEARS has the gall to say this and call someone else out??
He ain't lying. He and Alabama haven't paid players. The booster network that he set up when he got there took care of that. Alabama is the most corrupt program in college football history and has been since Bear Bryant was there.
Now that it's all legal him retiring won't mean nothing. The rich will continue to get richer and richer
Jimbo just went scorched Earth:
https://www.espn.com/college-footba...k-saban-nil-accusations-some-people-think-god
https://www.espn.com/college-footba...k-saban-nil-accusations-some-people-think-god
I was wondering about that. I haven’t read the rule, so I’d be just like everyone saying it’s legal, what’s the problem, if I commented on it. It’s easy to say what they did was legal without even knowing exactly what they did. What we’re slowly finding out is NOTHING is as it seems in our society right now. But I do agree it’s gonna get the blame for destroying college athletics, but I have my doubts wether it will be or not. One things for sure were getting very close to a complete shake up in sports. As the world is creating a level playing field for everyone of us, sports will not be left out of the equation. I may need to go look at what Texas passed concerning the NIL, and one things for certain we will not know what role Jimbo or the school played into it all. Nick isn’t a prime source I care to get my facts from either though. As I read in this thread he was the first to tell the world, and future recruits, his quarterback got a free million dollars….
Look at when Bryant Jr bank was founded and when Saban was hired. What a coincidence.
over the years, as many of our boards as I’ve read on n off, I can finally say I agree with you.
I’d add something though to, “the sport needs real rules that promote some level of parity…” I agree, but I’d add the sport needs real rules that promote the STUDENT-athlete and parity in the game….. The more that changes is leading us somewhere, and I think it’s the same place all the “wokeness” in pro sports and nascar is leading us to, but that’s just me…
Id like to hear Jolly ole Nick “God” Saban thoughts on hiring our running backs coach for a running back recruit we had, and a d-line coach for a couple d-line players if I’m remembering correctly. Haha, ole Nick plays the bend and break the rules recruiting philosophy if it helps his team and/or hurts his competition.
'The courts' didnt create anything. 'The courts' simply heard facts and ruled based on laws.
How dare those courts do what they were set up to do! Laws created this, to be clear.
Good. I’m glad laws created this mess as they have many messes, as well as courts, because there’s this thing coming to fix these issues, commonly. It was signed on July 4, 2020.
Anybody else see the irony here? Or is it possible there is actually a liberal who understands courts are meant to rule based on laws and the Constitution, not create them?
The athletic director of Texas A&M, none other than Ole Miss's Ross Bjork, has called for Saban to be disciplined.
I don't know. I'm not sure it's a fair to say the law prohibits amateur athletics (if you're referring to the Supreme Ct case). State laws have recently been passed that create a lot of problems.
17 nick saban. that network has been running wide open since before he arrived.
And the NCAA did not create this mess? Miss St never got justice when Jackie Sherrill was coach here? The NCAA was and is a bastion of corruption and injustice and the courts had no choice but to step in when that misconduct was brought to light and published within the Court transcripts. Remember, the NCAA settled with Jackie when delays were disallowed. Also, the NCAA settled with Todd McNair in the Reggie Bush litigation because delay tactics were dis allowed, just like Jackie? The NCAA refused to sanction a 100% guilty North Carolina in academic fraud yet fu_ked with innocent Mississippi State in the past? With all due respect, please stop giving the NCAA a pass by blaming the Courts 100%?
There is nothing in college football that wasn't already corrupt. The only thing that has changed is that its more in the open.
You can't claim to be a capitalist snd think college athletes shouldn't get a piece of the money that's made on their play. You can't say board and education because they were getting that before all these mega million dollar tv deals and sales. The sport isn't what it used to be because we as the consumer and those that saw Ann opportunity to sell it as a hot commodity made it so. Paying these coaches ungodly salaries. Why? Because they can based on boosters measuring their dicks and fans wants to
Have a team better than the other guys team.
The portal only seems fair when considering any other student can transfer any time. So can coaches.
It's nothing for a school to rip out a scholarship from a kid either. Looking at you Saban.
You mean to tell me Saban hasn't had somoneone paying these kids to gray shirt under him? Get out of here
You can't claim to be a capitalist snd think college athletes shouldn't get a piece of the money that's made on their play. You can't say board and education because they were getting that before all these mega million dollar tv deals and sales. The sport isn't what it used to be because we as the consumer and those that saw Ann opportunity to sell it as a hot commodity made it so. Paying these coaches ungodly salaries. Why? Because they can based on boosters measuring their dicks and fans wants to
Have a team better than the other guys team.
The portal only seems fair when considering any other student can transfer any time. So can coaches.
It's nothing for a school to rip out a scholarship from a kid either. Looking at you Saban.
You mean to tell me Saban hasn't had somoneone paying these kids to gray shirt under him? Get out of here
Well now if we are going to somehow treat college sports like the free market economy then we should shut down all college sports that don't make money. That would pretty much eliminate everything in college athletics except football and men's basketball.
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