So the DC is Coleman Hutzler, Bama OLB coach

[Old Dawg]

Yet again, we've got a very young coaching staff with a 1st time head coach, 1st time offensive coordinator, and 1st time defensive coordinator. Have we learned nothing from last year?

Not really a first time IC since Lebby will call plays

 

[LimaoCabeca]

Coleman Hutzler - Football Coach - University of Alabama Athletics

Coleman Hutzler begins his first season on the Alabama coaching staff after head coach Nick Saban hired him in January of 2022 to coordinate special teams and coach

rolltide.com

New head coach, same old Mississippi State…

 

[Dawgg]

Seems like an rising star in the coaching world. That being said, none of us really know. Could be a homerun, or the guy could fall flat on his face given he is not going to have the kind of resources and players at State he had at most of his other stops.

Feels like what we were saying about Peter Sirmon once upon a time.

 

[Anon1669338224]

We shall see. It is what it is. Definitely is anticlimactic.

 

[Dawgg]

Was Co-DC at Texas in 2020.

3 / 233
56 / 441
33 / 458
53 / 469
16 / 316
34 / 530
13 / 360
23 / 433
31 / 448
23 / 378

That's the number of Points and Yards that Texas gave up during the 2020 season.

 

[Dawgg]

No experience calling defense? Great. So this is Brock. I guess we just can't hire anyone experience at doing a job since leach died. Couldnt get a good OC last year. Hire an OC with no head coaching experience to be our head guy then hire a position coach and special teams guy to be our DC. We sure do make some head scratching hires and then wonder why we suck a year later. Sorry, but we are getting exactly what we are getting for an inexperienced head coach two years in a row. Not being able to get a sitting DC with experience with an inexperienced head coach is meh.

I feel like there are too many current and former DC's around this country to have to get a first time guy. Head coach? Sure. I don't love being somebody's first stop, but it is what it is. A DC? There are just too many options out there.

 

[Rupert Jenkins]

Rising star. Seems like a good coach. Who knows but I have looked at all his experience and say we did pretty good. Add in Barnes from Memphis and we should have a good group. He was Co DC at Texas. Bama ain't the only place he has coached you know.

 

[Lucifer Morningstar]

Feels like what we were saying about Peter Sirmon once upon a time.

Show me on the doll where Peter Sirmon touched you? No in all seriousness none of us has any idea how this hire will work out. Positives seem to be the guy has been around defensive minds, and is reported to be a good recruiter. Negatives seem to be he has never been totally in charge of a defense which can be a whole different animal. Sounds like we took a shot.

My big reservation is we have a first year head coach. Lebby, for all his hype, needs more experience around him just in one Devil's opinion. If we had a shot at getting Collins, Shannon, or Durkin and hired this guy anyway then that my friends is dumb.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Coleman Hutzler - Football Coach - University of Alabama Athletics

Coleman Hutzler begins his first season on the Alabama coaching staff after head coach Nick Saban hired him in January of 2022 to coordinate special teams and coach

rolltide.com

<uninformed shocked post without any real knowledge of him or coaching SEC football>

 

[PBRME]

 

[Dawgg]

Show me on the doll where Peter Sirmon touched you?

No in all seriousness none of us has any idea how this hire will work out. Positives seem to be the guy has been around defensive minds, and is reported to be a good recruiter. Negatives seem to be he has never been totally in charge of a defense which can be a whole different animal. Sounds like we took a shot.

True. I'm hoping he works out. I'd rather I was wrong for the Sirmon comparison and Hutzler ends up being a solid DC than be right about it. I went back and looked at Hadad's post announcing Sirmon as the DC and the overwhelming sentiment there was "well, he's a first time DC, but he has a pedigree and he's a solid recruiter". There's also a DJ Durkin reference there as well.

My big reservation is we have a first year head coach. Lebby, for all his hype, needs more experience around him just in one Devil's opinion. If we had a shot at getting Collins, Shannon, or Durkin and hired this guy anyway then that my friends is dumb.

Agreed on all counts.

 

[GloryDawg]

Lets hope he's not making same mistake as Arnette mad.

 

[NawlBennyDawg]

3 / 233
56 / 441
33 / 458
53 / 469
16 / 316
34 / 530
13 / 360
23 / 433
31 / 448
23 / 378

That's the number of Points and Yards that Texas gave up during the 2020 season.

So 28.5 PPG / 406.6 YPG at Texas as Co-DC

For comparison: 2016 defense under Sirmon:

Pts / Yards
S. Alabama: 21 / 379
SCar: 14 / 243
LSU: 23 / 392
UMass: 35 / 411
Auburn: 38 / 432
BYU: 28 / 311
Kentucky: 40 / 554
17in' Samford: 41 / 627
A&M: 28 / 382
Bama: 51 / 615
Arky: 58 / 661
OM: 20 / 528
Miami OH: 16 / 433

31.7 PPG / 459.1 YPG

So from this, we should be giving up 3 less points and 50 less yards than the Sirmon defense. High YPG in 2020 from social distancing??***

 

[NawlBennyDawg]

DCs that State has hired with little to no DC experience since 2003, and our record with them:

- Ron Cooper (2003, 1 season, 39.3 PPG) 2-10
- Charlie Harbison (2008, 1 season, 24.7 PPG) 4-8
- Peter Sirmon (2016, 1 season, 31.7 PPG) 6-7
- Matt Brock (2023, 1 season, 26.6 PPG) 5-7

Now, Coleman Hutzler (2024, ?)

Safe to say, our history with hiring guys with little DC experience has not been good to us in the past...

 

[OG Goat Holder]

DCs that State has hired with little to no DC experience since 2003, and our record with them:

- Ron Cooper (2003, 1 season, 39.3 PPG) 2-10
- Charlie Harbison (2008, 1 season, 24.7 PPG) 4-8
- Peter Sirmon (2016, 1 season, 31.7 PPG) 6-7
- Matt Brock (2023, 1 season, 26.6 PPG) 5-7

Now, Coleman Hutzler (2024, ?)

Safe to say, our history with hiring guys with little DC experience has not been good to us in the past...

Meanwhile, our history of going after G5 sitting DCs has been very good to us. Manny, Psycho Geoff, Manny again, Grantham, Shoop and Arnett.

And you forgot to add on your list Chris Wilson, who was also a position coach that we promoted from within (after being a position coach at, yep, OAK LUH HOUMA) and sucked. Had to fire him and promote Psycho Geoff to get it right.

Guess we will see.

 

[Chesusdog]

I'm on board. We can call our defense the Hutzler Club.

 

[Old Fart Dawg]

Ahhh, what a thread candidate for SixPack Remembers. Thanks y’all. We are Miss State!

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

I feel like there are two many current and former DC's around this country to have to get a first time guy. Head coach? Sure. I don't love being somebody's first stop, but it is what it is. A DC? There are just too many options out there.

Indeed

 

[ronpolk]

Good ole fashioned SPS meltdown about everything today

 

[Bullldawg78]

No experience calling defense? Great. So this is Brock. I guess we just can't hire anyone experience at doing a job since leach died. Couldnt get a good OC last year. Hire an OC with no head coaching experience to be our head guy then hire a position coach and special teams guy to be our DC. We sure do make some head scratching hires and then wonder why we suck a year later. Sorry, but we are getting exactly what we are getting for an inexperienced head coach two years in a row. Not being able to get a sitting DC with experience with an inexperienced head coach is meh.

Just saying I wanted Judge!

 

[Raiderdawg]

Any chance this guy still tries to coach in the playoffs for Bama?

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

Just saying I wanted Judge!

Judge has even less college coaching experience

 

[mcdawg22]

Coleman Hutzler - Football Coach - University of Alabama Athletics

Coleman Hutzler begins his first season on the Alabama coaching staff after head coach Nick Saban hired him in January of 2022 to coordinate special teams and coach

rolltide.com

 

[Called3rdstrikedawg]

It appears that "Indeed" is exactly where these Defense Coaches were found!

 

[AstroDog]

Typical how everyone on here knows exactly how good or how bad the new DC is. That tells me he must be pretty decent.

 

[uptowndawg]

2 years from now when DS starts that thread "When did you know that Lebby wasn't the right hire"... this will be my answer.

 

[Mayor of Little London]

Swag is State

 

[Dawgg]

So, not for nothing, but a Bama friend in the office approached me about us "stealing their coach" and said he was upset they were losing Hutzler and there's no gnashing of teeth among the fanbase about him leaving. He said they knew he'd eventually end up with a DC job someday, though he wouldn't go as far as to say he'd be a good DC since he's never had the job before. Anyway, he said if nothing else, we got a really good coach.

 

[GloryDawg]

Is Hutzler a German name?