Mississippi senator wants to close 3 state universities by 2028. See why
Mississippi Sen. John Polk wants to close 3 state colleges by 2028 as a result of funding issues.
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So the ms senate wants to close 3 of 8 public universities
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This could be smarter than that. The three obvious candidates for closure are the W and then two of DSU, MVSU, and Alcorn. Realistically, you politically can't close the W and two HBCU's. So anybody considering those four schools from here on out has to at least consider the risk that they might be shut down in the next decade. The more their enrollment is hurt, the worse their finances get, maybe it gets politically easier to shut them down in the future?
I don't know that we really need any of those four schools, but if their enrollment suffers, could it maybe be politically possible to shut down the W and split those classes between the MSU campuses, "shutdown" DSU and gift that land to MVSU (who should probably make Cleveland their main campus and shutdown the current campus), and shutodown Alcorn and move those classes/programs to JSU? If there is a deal to give MSU a nursing school and Valley a nicer campus and decrease competition for JSU, would that overcome the resistance of the W, DSU, and Alcorn interests? I think it might could if they were struggling and facing cuts anyway? The biggest impediment would likely be the shitheads worrying about MSU getting nursing.
As long as Ole Missy is the first one closed I am good with it. Bulldoze it and burn it.
I’ll take “OM, USM and Wesley Biblical Seminary” for $600, please Alex.
Mississippi senator wants to close 3 state universities by 2028. See why
Mississippi Sen. John Polk wants to close 3 state colleges by 2028 as a result of funding issues.www.clarionledger.com
Give DSU to UM. Give the W to State. Give Alcorn to USM and give Valley to JSU. Then put a plan in place to fully consolidate within "X" years.
Seems like back in the 80s/90s, USM was near the enrollment of state and ole miss. I guess the popularity of being in the SEC propelled us and hurt them?
FWI I have heard from some back channels, it is being discussed that State would takeover DSU and the W.
I’m not sure the legality of closing Alcorn since it’s a black land grant university.
It all makes sense now. MUW name change was a sneaky way to avoid closure when the legislature voted to close "MUW". 50 moves ahead. Close MUW you say, whodat?Mississippi senator wants to close 3 state universities by 2028. See why
Mississippi Sen. John Polk wants to close 3 state colleges by 2028 as a result of funding issues.www.clarionledger.com
Don't foget to crop dust the Grove with Agent Orange
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if you are doing to shut one of the HBCs it's Valley.
Cleveland would crater if DSU closed.
If you are being logical about what's best for the state and its college students, yes, obviously it's Valley. Terrible school and it's really close to DSU.
But politically, it's probably not possible to shut down Valley, the W, and Alcorn. Hell, the federal government would probably get involved to stop it. It's probably just as politically impossible for DSU, ASU, and the W to be shut down, but at least it would address some of the racial politics.
Wouldn't bulldozing that place be considered intentional soil contamination, which a crime?
This is all window dressing until the real issue is tackled: Mississippi should have at most 2 systems, the flagships of those two are obvious, and USM is gonna be under 1 of them. Until that happens, you're not getting any major efficiency upgrades.
I don't think it's impossible this happens, but very unlikely - especially given the current makeup/leadership of the IHL. As the demographics cliff starts hitting more and more, along with less people being able to afford college and/or viewing it as a good value, their hand might get forced.
I don't think it's impossible this happens, but very unlikely - especially given the current makeup/leadership of the IHL. As the demographics cliff starts hitting more and more, along with less people being able to afford college and/or viewing it as a good value, their hand might get forced.
Not trying to hijack but what will come of this ?
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‘Smart investment’: Republican-led House overwhelmingly passes Medicaid expansion bill
The measure was approved on a 98-20 vote.
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In addition to these, we have way too many JCs. North of Jxn (Ridgeland) there's a Holmes campus, South there a big Hinds Campus (Purl). Do we need two 15 miles apart?
And let's not getting started on funding so many JC football teams.
And let's not getting started on funding so many JC football teams.
Don't touch Da'Corn! Land grant like us.
Turn DSU into UMiss- Cleveland. JSU to THE University of Mississippi, USM to UMiss-Hattiesburg, and OM to UMiss-Oxford.
Only one set of U Miss sports teams and all of them play out Jackson, maybe one or two games a year in Oxford.
MSU manages the 82 corridor from Columbus, Starkville, Itta Bena and Stoneville.
Also just one set of sports teams that could play a few games out of Itta Bena for gits and shiggles.
Go from 8 to 3 and save the state a lot of money and trouble and revitalizes Jackson.
Turn DSU into UMiss- Cleveland. JSU to THE University of Mississippi, USM to UMiss-Hattiesburg, and OM to UMiss-Oxford.
Only one set of U Miss sports teams and all of them play out Jackson, maybe one or two games a year in Oxford.
MSU manages the 82 corridor from Columbus, Starkville, Itta Bena and Stoneville.
Also just one set of sports teams that could play a few games out of Itta Bena for gits and shiggles.
Go from 8 to 3 and save the state a lot of money and trouble and revitalizes Jackson.
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Naw, we can offset any environmental issues by planting the whole place in trees and turning it into a wildlife preserve for Black Bears.
Then what would you do with all the land sharks that would get displaced as a result?
Ok, fine so let's make them satellite campuses of the big 4 and scale back their administrations, sports teams, curriculums, etc. Either way it's just not financially feasible to keep that many institutions open in a State with 3MM people.
I think its politcally possible to shut down two small HBC’s and/or the W as long as you balance it out by shutting down the state’s oldest and most prominent HWC.
Let’s move forward with that option.
Normally I would say that's a terrible reason to keep a school open, but it may be worth it to keep spending state money on DSU to try to keep at least one town in the Delta decent. Too bad Greenwood and Cleveland can't combine their assets. DSU and Viking plus capturing some of the other people that have to leave their own decaying town that don't want to (or can't feasibly) leave the delta completely would probably ensure it'd stay decent for a while.
Well, that's one way to solve the rename the W problem. Seriously, good luck with that. It's a stupid bill to begin with. If you know we need to close 3 universities, name them. If you want IHL to study it and make a recommendation, let them determine how many need to be closed. Never mind that this is DOA because, no matter how much it's needed, we're not closing any universities.
We have 14 Community Colleges. 9 of them have a larger enrollment than the bottom 3 Public Senior Colleges. As for Hinds-Pearl Campus, I believe its enrollment is larger than the Raymond Campus and the two combined had an enrollment as high as over 9,000 a few years ago which was higher than JSU.
We definitely need less 4 year colleges, but we need more 2 year Vocational-Technical schools because college is not and should not be for everyone.
We definitely need less 4 year colleges, but we need more 2 year Vocational-Technical schools because college is not and should not be for everyone.
I have never felt compelled to learn the details, so this may be stupid/unworkable, but I would have liked for MS to expand Medicaid on a yearly basis provided that all Medicaid have a work requirement in Mississippi. Seems imminently reasonable that a state with one of (the?) lowest work place participation rates in the country would require you to at least try to get work in order to get welfare. That would have at worst flipped the politics to put the burden on democratic administrations that block work requirements and at best maybe actually cover more people without increasing the number reliant on Medicaid.Not trying to hijack but what will come of this ?
‘Smart investment’: Republican-led House overwhelmingly passes Medicaid expansion bill
The measure was approved on a 98-20 vote.
Moot point. Schools will literally have to fail to close. They’ll never be able to close them via the government, politically. Especially under the guise of ‘saving the State money’.
Not a great leap forward.
Not a great leap forward.
Close Ole Miss 3 times.Mississippi senator wants to close 3 state universities by 2028. See why
Mississippi Sen. John Polk wants to close 3 state colleges by 2028 as a result of funding issues.www.clarionledger.com
Tater Tot will veto it.Not trying to hijack but what will come of this ?
‘Smart investment’: Republican-led House overwhelmingly passes Medicaid expansion bill
The measure was approved on a 98-20 vote.
Consolidate about 75% of the Mississippi School districts first.
Close Alcorn too. UMMC obviously can’t be so that closes all small enrollment schools. Still leaves universities all over the stateMississippi senator wants to close 3 state universities by 2028. See why
Mississippi Sen. John Polk wants to close 3 state colleges by 2028 as a result of funding issues.www.clarionledger.com
I always expected to wake up one day and hear that some good ole boy from the Delta had lost a few loose screws and taken his crop duster over the Grovvvvvvvvvvvvvvve and dumped a few tanks of herbicide
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