With the whirlwind of injuries and obvious fatigue at the end of the game, does some of that responsibility fall onto the S&C COACH?
Strength and Conditioning Coach
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It should be looked at. But I would imagine lack of quality depth has more to do with it.
Go look back at the last Muschamp class and Beamers first class. Those are the guys that should be upper class-men leading the team. We MIGHT have 5 guys left from that 2020 class.
Go look back at the last Muschamp class and Beamers first class. Those are the guys that should be upper class-men leading the team. We MIGHT have 5 guys left from that 2020 class.
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I don't know if this is true but on 107.5 they were saying we have had more injuries than most teams over the last 3 years. They also included basketball and baseball in the conversation. They suggested looking at everything including nutrition.
Heard that too. It does seem like we’re having to justify Kingston by saying we had a bunch of injuries every year.
I heard this a long time ago is that the Under Armor cleats were causing injuries. If that is true then apparel contract or not I'm trying different cleats.
YES!!!!!!!!!!
I know players that are on South Carolina's Football Team and the team does not POWER-CLEAN
or Squat DEEP... The Strength Coach needs to be let go ASAP
or Squat DEEP... The Strength Coach needs to be let go ASAP
WHY South Carolina Football is LOSING
Can you say, "Strength Coach's Training"
Football Players are Power Athletes, In sports, the ability an athlete can produce high force & power is the most important determinant of who wins the competition (O’Bryant, H. Stone, M., 1987, p.62). The POWER Clean is the MOST IMPORTANT Exercise to develop POWER in Power-Athletes and the High-Bar-Back-Squat Ankles-to-Buttock produces the MOST FORCE in Power-Athletes... South Carolina Football does neither of these two Exercises... According to Haff, G., Stone, M. (2015): The double knee bend as a technique requires the re-bending of the knee as the barbell passes across the knee joint, thus applying an eccentric stretch, which stores elastic energy in the series elastic components of the muscle before a rapid explosive extension of both the knees and hips. This technique is essential to the transferability of weightlifting movements to football playing ability. (p.7) The Double-Knee-Bend is used when performing the Power-Clean or Pulling Movements in Clean and Overhead-Snatch...
AGAIN South Carolina Football DOES NOT DO POWER-CLEANS or SQUAT Correctly...
Training Football players to tackle, block and move HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the TRAINING IN THE VIDEO BELOW...
WRONG Concept to training Football Players... The video is SNAKE-OIL
Can you say, "Strength Coach's Training"
Football Players are Power Athletes, In sports, the ability an athlete can produce high force & power is the most important determinant of who wins the competition (O’Bryant, H. Stone, M., 1987, p.62). The POWER Clean is the MOST IMPORTANT Exercise to develop POWER in Power-Athletes and the High-Bar-Back-Squat Ankles-to-Buttock produces the MOST FORCE in Power-Athletes... South Carolina Football does neither of these two Exercises... According to Haff, G., Stone, M. (2015): The double knee bend as a technique requires the re-bending of the knee as the barbell passes across the knee joint, thus applying an eccentric stretch, which stores elastic energy in the series elastic components of the muscle before a rapid explosive extension of both the knees and hips. This technique is essential to the transferability of weightlifting movements to football playing ability. (p.7) The Double-Knee-Bend is used when performing the Power-Clean or Pulling Movements in Clean and Overhead-Snatch...
AGAIN South Carolina Football DOES NOT DO POWER-CLEANS or SQUAT Correctly...
Training Football players to tackle, block and move HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the TRAINING IN THE VIDEO BELOW...
WRONG Concept to training Football Players... The video is SNAKE-OIL
Haven't you seen the hype video at the end of the third quarter? We hit big tires with sledge hammers and do the oscillating big ropes thingy.
That was during the first few years of the contract under Coach Spurrier ("click clack"). I haven't heard any talk about problems with the cleats since he left.
Thanks VC, trying to bring a little light-heartedness to an otherwise disappointing season.You're a funny man!!!!
Forever to Thee!
I hope we become Nike again at some point, not saying the cleats are causing it, but a change at AD and the Shoe Contract would be refreshing to me.
Hey, I literally busted out laughing when I read your post. I needed that.
Been thinking the same thing. Jerking on a rope is not like exploding into someone, getting under their chin, and driving them off the ball. If you are strong and use proper technique, you can beat people who outweigh you by a good bit.
S&C doesn't seem like that hard of a position to fill. Most of the exercises and techniques are fairly standardized. You don't need guys training like Rocky in Rocky IV.
Not sure I agree. When I played in college many moons ago, the exercises were fairly standard as you suggest. The key to a good S&C coach is his or her ability to motivate and to get players to buy-in.
I know S&C has come a long way and I'm sure it's less standardized than the past. Yoga, stretching, bands are all examples of things that didn't exist back in the day. Not all S&C incorporate these into their program but the good ones do.
Well, yeah, I don't disagree with that. I'm just speaking with regards to the techniques. Like any other field, you learn and adapt to new developments, but I just don't think it should be that hard to find a guy who knows the requisite information these days with how easily and widely information is disseminated. It's not like Spurrier revolutionizing the game with his passing attack back in the 90s. I'd be leery of a guy if he said he had techniques nobody else in the country was using.
I said this in another thread, but I know during Muschamp this was NOT part of the program, and players were told if they wanted this they had to find ways to do so on their own. Hence why they would be at City Yoga in 5 Points. I admit I do not know how much stretching is involved in today's S&C program, if any.
I realize I'm not an athlete by any means, but I can speak to the benefits of proper Yoga and stretching, especially when it comes to the prevention of muscle injuries. I grew up dancing (ballet, tap, and jazz) and obviously stretching was very important for muscle care. Since I started doing both regularly again late in life, I don't cramp nearly as much, nor do I pull things when doing strength training and cardio. And the return of flexibility as I age is a gamechanger!
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I coach baseball. My team uses bands every practice. Not only to warm up and stretch but also to strengthen their arms. It's arm care 101. In the off-season, we don't throw until January. Heavy bands from November-December. It has certainly cut down on injuries.
It wouldn't surprise me if your son does bands or yoga for golf training/injury prevention. I have seen golfers use bands to stretch and as resistance to strengthen the hip flip. Similar to what we do for our hitters.
Oh he absolutely uses them. He suffers from periodic tendonitis, so stretching has become very important to his regimen.
I think the rash of injuries is more likely just part of the game. Luck of the draw. Last year and the year before Clemson had this situation. Fans were all over their S&C coaches. Some years you have a few injuries some years a lot. Everything in between
I agree if it were one year. I haven't done the research but most are suggesting this is a trend over several years and impacting multiple men's sports.
You sound like an Idiot. Doubt you could even do a deep squat or clean
I'm not qualified at all to contribute to this discussion. I know nothing about S&C. Here is what I do know. Luke Day has forgotten more about S&C than I'll ever know. Doesn't mean he's right for the job, but in no way, shape, or form would I be able to opine on the job he's doing.
Joey Batson (Clem's S&C guy) was the target of much angst from Clem fans in the early 2000s. Even when they were winning 10 games, but still losing 5 in a row to us, they wanted him gone. But a funny thing happened. Once they got legit players and good coaches they all of a sudden looked so much stronger and well conditioned. You can't teach a dog to bite. He's got to learn as a puppy. These guys can be a strong as an ox, but if they don't bite, it doesn't matter. DJ wasn't who he was bc of Fitz. Ingram wasn't who he was b/c of Fitz. They were dogs when they stepped on campus. Basically...we don't need no meow.
Joey Batson (Clem's S&C guy) was the target of much angst from Clem fans in the early 2000s. Even when they were winning 10 games, but still losing 5 in a row to us, they wanted him gone. But a funny thing happened. Once they got legit players and good coaches they all of a sudden looked so much stronger and well conditioned. You can't teach a dog to bite. He's got to learn as a puppy. These guys can be a strong as an ox, but if they don't bite, it doesn't matter. DJ wasn't who he was bc of Fitz. Ingram wasn't who he was b/c of Fitz. They were dogs when they stepped on campus. Basically...we don't need no meow.
Ya'll think Fitz was responsible for these DAWGS?? Nah.
Also, take a peek at that stat...10th in passing in the SEC. Not sure what game that was, but looks to be the 2010 season. Some young guys there playing in new positions. That secondary would go on to be one of, if not the, best in our history. But at one point, they were 10th out of 12.
Also, take a peek at that stat...10th in passing in the SEC. Not sure what game that was, but looks to be the 2010 season. Some young guys there playing in new positions. That secondary would go on to be one of, if not the, best in our history. But at one point, they were 10th out of 12.
Urban Meyer says that the 2 most important hires on a football staff are the OL coach and the Strength and Conditioning coach. I think he knows a thing or two about college football success.
When is the last time one of the elite teams in college football had a season here they were totally decimated by injury?
UGA had a ton of injuries last year. They just happened to have 5* guys waiting in the wings.
Same with the "battling ropes" .I have a set of them and it is very hard to try to do it for 30 seconds. It takes a very explosive action to do them both at the same time .