Stunned. Just...stunned.

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The opening drive of the second half started out great and I think going for the 4th down was the right call there. Sad that the drive fizzled out and we even faced 4th, but had we converted that single 4th down... I think the game would have turned into a rout with no turning back.
Not punting from our territory in the third quarter when we had the game in a very manageable multi-score margin enlivened them and facilitated their comeback. We made their job much easier. The error there was self-evident within minutes after it was made.
 

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Not punting from our territory in the third quarter when we had the game in a very manageable multi-score margin enlivened them and facilitated their comeback. We made their job much easier. The error there was self-evident within minutes after it was made.
I agree with this.
 
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Beating a dead horse here, but yeah... going 2 for 5 on 4th down and giving them the ball on our side of the field nearly cost us this game. Frankly, it should have cost us the game, but the offense fought on.

We expect our players to learn. We should expect the same of our coaches. Beamer: CUT IT OUT.
 

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Prior to the game, I posted something along the lines of if we don't help Mizzou with dumb personal foul penalties, going for it on our own end of the field, and turning the ball over giving them a short field and we'll be fine. We did all those things and still won. What do I know?
 

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Beating a dead horse here, but yeah... going 2 for 5 on 4th down and giving them the ball on our side of the field nearly cost us this game. Frankly, it should have cost us the game, but the offense fought on.

We expect our players to learn. We should expect the same of our coaches. Beamer: CUT IT OUT.
Beamer has priors.

He's a lot like Les Miles that way. Les became "Less" because he never got over it.

Kirby Smart did some squirrelly stuff his first couple of years at Georgia and got over it, which is when the championships started.

Beamer should take a clue.
 
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Prior to the game, I posted something along the lines of if we don't help Mizzou with dumb personal foul penalties, going for it on our own end of the field, and turning the ball over giving them a short field and we'll be fine. We did all those things and still won. What do I know?
What you should take from it is that we were as fortunate as the proverbial multi-penis dog.
 

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Beating a dead horse here, but yeah... going 2 for 5 on 4th down and giving them the ball on our side of the field nearly cost us this game. Frankly, it should have cost us the game, but the offense fought on.

We expect our players to learn. We should expect the same of our coaches. Beamer: CUT IT OUT.
Yeah, I need to follow your example and stop beating the same drum.

BUT.

I think he will learn. I just hope he doesn’t lose the aggressiveness in the process. Understanding the flow of the game, in-game strategies, when to show confidence in the team, clock management, etc. are skills that can be learned with experience.
 
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Not punting from our territory in the third quarter when we had the game in a very manageable multi-score margin enlivened them and facilitated their comeback. We made their job much easier. The error there was self-evident within minutes after it was made.
I thought the first 4th down attempt in the 3rd was the worse of the two. Both were bad, but the first one took points off the board. We had a grinding a drive that could have ended in points and bumped the lead from 15 up to 18. Coupled with our TD to end the first half, that would have been a great to way to end and start halves. Instead, we let them off the hook with very bad call, came away with no points and gave them a shot in the arm. They were noticeably pumped up after that.

Leading up to that 4th down, I think we got a bad spot, though, after Sellers ran out on 3rd down. Looked a lot closer than 4 yards to me. I also think he should have cut inside and run upfield on the 3rd. Seemed like he would have picked it up.
 

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Yeah, I need to follow your example and stop beating the same drum.

BUT.

I think he will learn. I just hope he doesn’t lose the aggressiveness in the process. Understanding the flow of the game, in-game strategies, when to show confidence in the team, clock management, etc. are skills that can be learned with experience.
Needs to learn to be strategically aggressive. His aggressive calls in the first half made sense and felt right for the context of the game. The 4th down plays to start the 3rd just made no sense at all.
 

HI Cock1

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Very happy about the win, just thought we had learned our lesson to punt the damn ball and play field position. The 4th and 4 one bothered me especially. Gave up 20 yards of field position. Sure, there will be situations where we need to roll the dice, just didn’t see the need to gamble field position last night. But absolutely, great response by our team and kudos to Loggains for letting Sellers go wild. Missouri was ready for the run game.
We shoulda known that at the coaching level. The 4th and 4? OK. We score there, game almost over. 4th and 1 on your own 37 (which should've been a 1st down on the previous play) up by 2 scores in Q3? That was absolute dumbarse. Up by 15 at half, you have to play field position in the 2nd half. Especially in the SEC.
 
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Needs to learn to be strategically aggressive. His aggressive calls in the first half made sense and felt right for the context of the game. The 4th down plays to start the 3rd just made no sense at all.
I would add that, in the second quarter, on the long drive where we went for it twice and made it twice, but went for it again a third time and didn't come close to making it, we were in easy field goal range, and that was a greedy and potentially harmful decision.

You shorten your odds by going the yardage three times in a drive. Once you get down the field as far as we got, with or without the lead at that point in the game, it's time to take the points when you're inside the 25. By bucking the odds, we came up with nothing. Not good potentially in the grand scheme of things.
 

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I would add that, in the second quarter, on the long drive where we went for it twice and made it twice, but went for it again a third time and didn't come close to making it, we were in easy field goal range, and that was a greedy and potentially harmful decision.

You shorten your odds by going the yardage three times in a drive. Once you get down the field as far as we got, with or without the lead at that point in the game, it's time to take the points when you're inside the 25. By bucking the odds, we came up with nothing. Not good potentially in the grand scheme of things.
Hopefully we flush it and learn from it (coaches... head coach specifically). We won and we should be celebrating from the chandeliers by HOW we won. The players AND coaches overcame those questionable decisions AND Mizzou's best shot (and arguably better coaching). There's a reason they were early season top-10.
 

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Hopefully we flush it and learn from it (coaches... head coach specifically). We won and we should be celebrating from the chandeliers by HOW we won. The players AND coaches overcame those questionable decisions AND Mizzou's best shot (and arguably better coaching). There's a reason they were early season top-10.
Don't misunderstand - I was delighted to win. But I believe analytics have inclined some coaches (hint, hint) not to take the long view on their decision-making. It's not a strength. It's like Russian Roulette - eventually someone's brains are splattered on the wall.
 

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