He may not be doing the right thing in regards to the income tax, but he understands that Mississippi needs Jackson.
TateR gets it in regards to Jackson......
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He may not be doing the right thing in regards to the income tax, but he understands that Mississippi needs Jackson.
He’s right. I haven’t lived in Jackson in 15 years, but as someone observing from the outside, there’s potential for growth. Getting utilities functioning and a small area near UMMC/capitol safe is the first step. I was there a couple months ago and really felt there was a lot of good real estate. The area Hunter Evans started with Elvie’s has developed nicely. Make the whole area around Baptist/First Pres/UMMC/Fondren reliably safe, get single healthcare people comfortable living there, then get to the point where it’s good enough young families.
The voters of Jackson don't give a rip if Jackson succeeds or not, most of them don't even vote. If they did care, the ones that do vote wouldn't keep electing the same money grabbing trashy politicians year after year. The voters are like alcoholics, you can't help them until they are sick and tired of being sick and tired
Tate is a much better governor than he’s given credit for.
That's why things are being done outside of their control. The hope would be, enough good people move in, and long term elect some competent leaders.
However, this is going to involve people being ok with elected leaders of another race. Of course, anybody who actually would move to Jackson would certainly be alright with that. And long term, if we ever want to have a thriving city, it's also going to require those in power to actually all work together beyond racial lines.
A buddy of mine has lived in jackson his entire adult life, as his wife's family would be considered 'old money'. He always gives me crap for living in Madison but in the last 20 years he's had 3 cars stolen and his house has been broken into 4 times.
Meanwhile, I could leave my doors unlocked and have absolutely no doubt everything I own would be precisely where I left it when I get home.
The moral of the story is that the type of people you surround yourself with have a huge impact on your experience, and there are far too many people in Jackson who have no compunctions about stealing things that don't belong to them. Plus, you know, all the murders and whatnot.
I think Jackson has a lot of potential but agree with many others here that until the citizens of the city get fed up and start handling the problems in their neighborhoods, nothing will change.
Meanwhile, I could leave my doors unlocked and have absolutely no doubt everything I own would be precisely where I left it when I get home.
The moral of the story is that the type of people you surround yourself with have a huge impact on your experience, and there are far too many people in Jackson who have no compunctions about stealing things that don't belong to them. Plus, you know, all the murders and whatnot.
I think Jackson has a lot of potential but agree with many others here that until the citizens of the city get fed up and start handling the problems in their neighborhoods, nothing will change.
It's because he looks and sounds like a caricature of a fat, stupid, racist Governor from the 1950's South.
I knew him a little in our younger days. My impression was always that he was pretty smart, pretty no nonsense and generally a decent guy. He just needs to get in shape for his image and health.
People are not moving back into Jackson, nor should they. 8 people got shot after the St Paddy's day parade this weekend. People with options are not going into that war zone.
We all know that people like are not. I'm not either. But some people who want to be in Mississippi, plus want a more urban lifestyle, might. I know your small mind cannot comprehend this, but there's a lot of people, likely with the same skin tone as you, who live in Belhaven and Fondren. And they don't even have armored vehicles.
But what people like you DO need to do, is feel comfortable coming into Jackson to eat at restaurants or whatever.
Son, I lived in Jackson until 2017 (both Belhaven and Fondren) and now live in the suburbs of Jackson. My family owns many apartments and houses in Jackson, but please do tell me more about how much more you know about Jackson , MS than those of us who have literally lived that part of it. . I realize that you are always strongly opinionated and never in doubt no how many user names you are required to create because you are too stupid to not get banned, but the things you are saying must happen for people to move back into Jackson have almost zero chance of actually happening.
I'm not talking about moving back to cheap suburban houses on McDowell Road. I'm talking about creating a true urban cityscape.
I read the article. Know what you're talkling about. It's not going to happen in Jackson, MS without a major miracle happening. A lot of people invested into Farish Street back in the day (family still has a stake in that). It's not tenable now and will not be unless a huge culture shift happens, as others have said. I would love to be wrong. We can't even have a parade without 8 shootings and it's the 3rd time in the last 4 years that has happened (maybe 2nd time in 3 years, could be wrong). People do love urban areas, but people do not feel safe in Jackson and they have a very long ways to go to make anyone feel differently about that.
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Cliff Notes? I refuse to click a Clarion Ledger link and/or visit their website.
Jackson's only hope is to literally be taken over by the state and that would be like.........
a total money pit disaster.
a total money pit disaster.
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The problem is not with people who would move to Jackson. The problem is with people already in Jackson who are not ok with leaders of another race.
I'm thinking more forward than that.
You want to get to Point B from Point A. That will involve a sacrifice by somebody. Most people in MS want the city to change, so to get that change, there has to be a sacrifice. That means some people will need to live (maybe) and patron a city with governance they don't exactly love. The more money that flows in, the more investment there is, the more decent people come, etc. Pretty soon, the influence of the morons like Chockwe starts to diminish, for the good of everyone, and maybe Jackson elects a better mayor that values outside investment. It's the Birmingham model. You're just trying to make a certain segment of the city viable, so that means it's going to be reaching across the aisle.
When you have that many blacks in close proximity it's almost impossible for safe reliable investable development to happen.
There were 2 killed at the same event in 2023
What's the difference in feeling comfortable going into Jackson to eat, but getting shot at a parade in broad daylight in Jackson ? That's the 3rd murder at the parade in 2 years
Interesting article on the victim of the most recent St Paddy's shooting
The Wages of Sin is.........
The murder victim in the St. Paddy's shooting was himself charged with capital murder over a year ago.
kingfish1935.blogspot.com
We've got to keep the rednecks from Florence out.
My grandpa rode his horse in the parade for Christmas in 1947. He also lived and worked there. It's sad to see Jackson the way it is because it could be better there. Hopefully it will get better there.
But nobody is moving from or refusing to move to Jackson because they don't love the governance or because they care about the race of the leaders of the city government. They are leaving and staying away because the city can't provide basic, first world amenities like water and sewer, paved roads, and a functioning criminal justice system. You have to get at least the downtown and nicer residential areas to first world status consistently before you are going to get people to move back.
Voter apathy is not confined to Jackson. While it's true not many people have voted in recent Jackson mayoral elections, it's no different in places like Brandon or Madison.
Let's take Brandon's last election in 2021. At that time, Brandon had roughly 25k residents of which 17,500 were of voting age. Butch Lee won with a little over 2100 votes. Only 2600 votes were cast in total which equates to 15% of the voting population. That's not much better than Jackson's percentage in it's last election.
I haven't looked at Madison's numbers but can't imagine it would be much different considering Mother Mary rules the roost until she's ready to give it up.
In Brandon and Madison's case, I would say the lack of voter engagement stems from an already known outcome.
In Jackson's case, I would argue it was lack of quality candidates to take on the status quo. The last group of people to run against Chokwe were a joke. This time around there is at least one person who has past legislative experience in John Hornh. Based on the signs around Jackson, he has a lot of support and I expect he will end up winning. I have no clue if he'll be better than Chokwe but I can't see how he'll be any worse.
Let's take Brandon's last election in 2021. At that time, Brandon had roughly 25k residents of which 17,500 were of voting age. Butch Lee won with a little over 2100 votes. Only 2600 votes were cast in total which equates to 15% of the voting population. That's not much better than Jackson's percentage in it's last election.
I haven't looked at Madison's numbers but can't imagine it would be much different considering Mother Mary rules the roost until she's ready to give it up.
In Brandon and Madison's case, I would say the lack of voter engagement stems from an already known outcome.
In Jackson's case, I would argue it was lack of quality candidates to take on the status quo. The last group of people to run against Chokwe were a joke. This time around there is at least one person who has past legislative experience in John Hornh. Based on the signs around Jackson, he has a lot of support and I expect he will end up winning. I have no clue if he'll be better than Chokwe but I can't see how he'll be any worse.
Until a high quality candidate is willing to take on the massive challenge that is Jackson, it will never get better. Unfortunately there really aren’t that many people going about their lives with the necessary skills who are seeking out a challenge of that magnitude
I grew up in Jackson. Born at St.Dominic hospital. Attended Jackson public schools all the way thru High school. It was a great place to grow up. Very little crime. Nice neighborhoods. But that was a long time ago. Late 70’s early 80’s. After graduation from MSU I returned to Jackson, rented for awhile saved my money and bought a house in northeast Jackson. Got married and had children. Then became clear that crime was starting to escalate. Moved out and haven’t been back. Shortly after moving out My elderly parents had a car stolen from their home in Jackson, my wife‘s boss got his truck stolen in a parking lot on I-55 north in the middle of the day, my brother-n-law had his car stolen in NE Jackson and my step-son had his truck stolen in the Baptist hospital parking garage. All this in a Aprox. 4year period. A relative that had a retail business(not a convenience store) in north Jackson was robbed and shot at his place of business, by the grace of god he lived. That is just my immediate family not including friends and friends of my family.
Yall want to live in that crap be my guest. But no way in h*(( am I going to!
Yall want to live in that crap be my guest. But no way in h*(( am I going to!
So you planning to move to Jackson and invest? Or is this like Mississippi state sports? You are an authority but don’t contribute anything?
Maybe this username will be the one that sticks, buddy
No matter your motivation for typing racist crap, the sentence above reflects more about you than anything else. What a sad human.
Take the upvote with him. That’s disgusting
In 2008 my wife and I were living in a small house in Ridgeland, and were looking for a bigger place to start a family. We looked at Jackson (mainly Belhaven and Fondren) and Madison. The biggest pros for Jackson were short commutes (we both worked downtown at the time) the neighborhoods were pretty and established, and a lot of the houses had cool, older-house features.
But Madison won almost every other category, and for me it strictly came down to money: I'm going to pay property/school taxes and buy car tags in both places, so which one is going to give me more for my money? Compared to Madison, Jackson's roads were rougher, its police and fire protection spottier, and its public schools were going to mean we'd wind up paying tuition to JA/First Pres-Prep for 18 years per kid. So for me it was a no-brainer as a financial decision.