Tennessee Titans New Stadium Funded

[Dawgg]

$2.1 Billion is a helluva price tag for a roof that doesn't even retract.

Titans OK'd for $760M in city bonds for stadium

The Titans have the final financing piece for the NFL's next pricey stadium with the approval of $760 million in bonds by the Metro Nashville City Council.

www.espn.com

Here are the designs:

The Stadium Project | Tennessee Titans - TennesseeTitans.com

www.tennesseetitans.com

Looks like they're angling for Super Bowls and a CFP game. Music City Bowl might have a little higher profile in about 5 years.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

$2.1 Billion is a helluva price tag for a roof that doesn't even retract.

Titans OK'd for $760M in city bonds for stadium

The Titans have the final financing piece for the NFL's next pricey stadium with the approval of $760 million in bonds by the Metro Nashville City Council.

www.espn.com

Here are the designs:

The Stadium Project | Tennessee Titans - TennesseeTitans.com

www.tennesseetitans.com

Looks like they're angling for Super Bowls and a CFP game. Music City Bowl might have a little higher profile in about 5 years.

Final Four too.

 

[aTotal360]

What a dump.

 

[Dawgg]

Looks like they're adding additional taxes to Nashville area hotels, which are already exorbitantly priced. There are only so many trailers and prosthetic limbs a man can sell if he wants to travel.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Looks like they're adding additional taxes to Nashville area hotels, which are already exorbitantly priced. There are only so many trailers and prosthetic limbs a man can sell if he wants to travel.

The last couple of times we have gone to Nashville we did AirBnb. So much cheaper and if you’re going with a group you can get something together to share the cost.

 

[Wesson Bulldog]

It'll never be finished on time***

 

[johnson86-1]

$2.1 Billion is a helluva price tag for a roof that doesn't even retract.

Titans OK'd for $760M in city bonds for stadium

The Titans have the final financing piece for the NFL's next pricey stadium with the approval of $760 million in bonds by the Metro Nashville City Council.

www.espn.com

Here are the designs:

The Stadium Project | Tennessee Titans - TennesseeTitans.com

www.tennesseetitans.com

Looks like they're angling for Super Bowls and a CFP game. Music City Bowl might have a little higher profile in about 5 years.

I would love to see the calculations on return on investment for the city. Doing an indoor venue that can host all weather concerts will help and I assume Nashville has become such a destination now that it can routinely fill up stadium concerts. They should get a Super Bowl soon after (assuming the NFL still rewards localities that provide public money for stadiums?); not sure how much revenue that generates for a city. They should be a popular location for NCAA tournament games if the venue is decent as a basketball venue (usually converted football stadiums are not great though).

 

[Xenomorph]

"Their team, our dream"

Member those billboards around Memphis?

 

[Xenomorph]

They should get a Super Bowl soon

And the current SEC deal with MB-Atlanta is up in 2027...

 

[AstroDog]

Final Four too.

Kinda of glad Bud Adams moved the team from Memphis to Nashville. Not sure that kind of expenditure would have gone over well in liberal-minded Memphis like it has in conservative leaning Nashville. Actually, Memphis can thank the Pittsburg Steeler's fans for old Bud's final decision to land in Music City. Nevertheless, in a way, I'm glad they didn't stay in Mempho.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Kinda of glad Bud Adams moved the team from Memphis to Nashville. Not sure that kind of expenditure would have gone over well in liberal-minded Memphis like it has in conservative leaning Nashville. Actually, Memphis can thank the Pittsburg Steeler's fans for old Bud's final decision to land in Music City. Nevertheless, in a way, I'm glad they didn't stay in Mempho.

Playing in Memphis was just temporary until their current stadium was built and finished. It was never a permanent move.

If you’re going to take a jab at something at least get the facts straight.

 

[AstroDog]

Playing in Memphis was just temporary until their current stadium was built and finished. It was never a permanent move.

If you’re going to take a jab at something at least get the facts straight.

Bud Adams direct quote was "we're moving to Memphis" period. Said the team will play an exhibition season at the Liberty Bowl while the city brought up plans to bring the stadium to then, current NFL standards. When the Steelers came to play, their fans flooded the Liberty Bowl with the "white terrible towels". I know, because I was there. Bud Adams was reportedly so pissed off by all the opponents fans in the stands, he later said he was going to check out Nashville and see what his options were there. Nashville promised a new stadium, but Memphis did not. Game over. Those are the facts......boy.

 

[johnson86-1]

Kinda of glad Bud Adams moved the team from Memphis to Nashville. Not sure that kind of expenditure would have gone over well in liberal-minded Memphis like it has in conservative leaning Nashville. Actually, Memphis can thank the Pittsburg Steeler's fans for old Bud's final decision to land in Music City. Nevertheless, in a way, I'm glad they didn't stay in Mempho.

Is Nashville conservative? I knew the outlying areas were, but I thought Nashville proper was leftist now and had been for a while?

 

[RocketDawg]

$2.1 Billion is a helluva price tag for a roof that doesn't even retract.

Titans OK'd for $760M in city bonds for stadium

The Titans have the final financing piece for the NFL's next pricey stadium with the approval of $760 million in bonds by the Metro Nashville City Council.

www.espn.com

Here are the designs:

The Stadium Project | Tennessee Titans - TennesseeTitans.com

www.tennesseetitans.com

Looks like they're angling for Super Bowls and a CFP game. Music City Bowl might have a little higher profile in about 5 years.

Doesn't the Super Bowl require >70,000 capacity?

I'm pretty sure if I lived in Memphis or Knoxville I wouldn't want state funds, that I payed taxes for, to be used to finance a stadium in Nashville.

 

[Xenomorph]

Playing in Memphis was just temporary until their current stadium was built and finished. It was never a permanent move.

If you’re going to take a jab at something at least get the facts straight.

Was about to say the same thing.. He decided to move the team to Nashville even though Memphis begged him for the team.... and then Memphis agreed to let the Tennessee Oilers play in the Liberty Bowl while the stadium was built in Nasvhille.

It was an odd deal and I think about 20k fans per game turned out to watch. I remember Bud Adams saying something like Memphis fans should buy season tickets to prove they should have been selected.

 

[AstroDog]

Is Nashville conservative? I knew the outlying areas were, but I thought Nashville proper was leftist now and had been for a while?

Nashville metro. However, inside their city limits is still much more conservative than Memphis, Birmingham, or Jackson, MS.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Bud Adams direct quote was "we're moving to Memphis" period. Said the team will play an exhibition season at the Liberty Bowl while the city brought up plans to bring the stadium to then, current NFL standards. When the Steelers came to play, their fans flooded the Liberty Bowl with the "white terrible towels". I know, because I was there. Bud Adams was reportedly so pissed off by all the opponents fans in the stands, he later said he was going to check out Nashville and see what his options were there. Nashville promised a new stadium, but Memphis did not. Game over. Those are the facts......boy.

Still not correct. It was never a permanent move, boy.

In 1997, the Oilers relocated to Nashville, Tennessee, but played at the Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium in Memphis for one season while waiting for a new stadium to be constructed. Due to low attendance, the team moved to Nashville's Vanderbilt Stadium in 1998

 

[AstroDog]

Was about to say the same thing.. He decided to move the team to Nashville even though Memphis begged him for the team.... and then Memphis agreed to let the Tennessee Oilers play in the Liberty Bowl while the stadium was built in Nasvhille.

It was an odd deal and I think about 20k fans per game turned out to watch. I remember Bud Adams saying something like Memphis fans should buy season tickets to prove they should have been selected.

I went to 4 exhibition games there. About 45K each time. Nashville at that time couldn't even get enough to fill Vandy's stadium which they considered using instead of the Liberty Bowl.....so they stayed in Memphis while Titan stadium was being built. Then later, Memphis's NFL franchise which looked extremely promising, was slid under the table and given to Jacksonville.

 

[AstroDog]

Still not correct. It was never a permanent move, boy.

In 1997, the Oilers relocated to Nashville, Tennessee, but played at the Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium in Memphis for one season while waiting for a new stadium to be constructed. Due to low attendance, the team moved to Nashville's Vanderbilt Stadium in 1998

Misinformation. LIttle Desoto Boy

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

I went to 4 exhibition games there. About 45K each time. Nashville at that time couldn't even get enough to fill Vandy's stadium which they considered using instead of the Liberty Bowl.....so they stayed in Memphis while Titan stadium was being built. Then later, Memphis's NFL franchise which looked extremely promising, was slid under the table and given to Jacksonville.

Memphis’ NFL bid was in 94. The Titans played in the Liberty Bowl in 97.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

@AstroDog take the L.

The city that hated its NFL team

The strange story of how Memphis had an NFL team for a year ... and hated every minute of it.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[AstroDog]

People who really want to know what happened would have needed to talk to Bill Dunavant, Logan Young, and Pepper Rogers. They would have told you what REALLY happened. Not what was being reported in the newspapers/radio. I talked to Dunavant personally about it. He told me the Houston Oilers were going to move to Memphis and remain there providing the City of Memphis, Shelby Co, and the State of Tennessee came up with the funds to renovate the Liberty Bowl or build a new stadium downtown on the river. Memphis failed in that aspect where Nashville succeeded. It later on was found out that the State of TN gave Nashville WAY more funding to build Titan stadium than what they were willing to give Memphis. Of course, the State of TN is located in Nashville, and that was that. The state wanted the team in Nashville, not Memphis, and thus did not put the full weight of their support behind the Memphis franchise group.

 

[AstroDog]

@AstroDog take the L.

The city that hated its NFL team

The strange story of how Memphis had an NFL team for a year ... and hated every minute of it.

sports.yahoo.com

Nope, You believe stories you read. I talked to one of top would be investors in the Memphis franchise face-to-face. You need to bend over and take it where you like it.

 

[dorndawg]

Nope, You believe stories you read. I talked to one of top would be investors in the Memphis franchise face-to-face. You need to bend over and take it where you like it.

 

[AstroDog]

Agee, LOL. How many people really know what happened with JFK's assassination? Probably none or a handful that are likely dead. Same with the Oilers move to Memphis. Of course, there's always the internet to tell you the truth and actual details. Right?

 

[dorndawg]

Agee, LOL. How many people really know what happened with JFK's assassination? Probably none or a handful that are likely dead. Same with the Oilers move to Memphis. Of course, there's always the internet to tell you the truth and actual details. Right?

Sounds like you have some real insider info on DSD, too.*

 

[mstateglfr]

I would enjoy reading an unbiased report on the benefit of taxpayers funding stadiums for billionaires to run their teams consisting of millionaires.

If it is genuinely a good deal for the cities, cool. There sure have been countless reports to show its a terrible deal though.
If every city refused to fund stadiums at the same time, it would be interesting to see what would happen. Would owners stop threatening to leave and move their teams elsewhere? Would owners just fund the builds themselves? Would there be fewer over the top huge stadiums with state of the art everything and instead just more stadiums that are safe and fine, but not destinations in their own right?

Seattle continues to pay off the Kingdome for 15 years after it was demolished.
St Louis still owed $144MM on the Edward Jones Dome when the Rams left.
Philly still owed $160,000 on Veterans Stadium more than 10 years after it was torn down.
Indianapolis still owed on the Hoosier Dome over 5 years after it was demolished.
When the old Giants stadium was demolished, over $110MM was still owed by the state of NJ.

The New Buffalo Bills Stadium Is One of the Worst Deals for Taxpayers

COMMENTARY | Study after study has shown that stadiums are terrible public investments. Taxpayers rarely want to pay for them. So why do governments keep subsidizing them?

www.route-fifty.com

- There were many things to dislike about the Bills stadium project. At $850 million, it is the largest taxpayer handout for a new stadium in U.S. history even before additional subsidies such as annual maintenance costs, property tax exemptions and tax exemptions for municipal bond interest are considered. These factors could easily drive the total government price tag well over $1 billion.
- And don’t think that NFL stadiums typically host a multitude of other events. Over its 50 years of existence, aside from a pair of annual high school football games and a few miscellaneous competitions, Highmark Stadium has hosted a grand total of 30 major concerts, three college football games and two large hockey games. And Buffalo’s venue is not out of the ordinary for any large, outdoor stadium.
- The Pegulas were essentially able to extort New York taxpayers by threatening to relocate the team if they didn’t pay up.

 

[AstroDog]

Sounds like you have some real insider info on DSD, too.*

Wait a minute.....let me check Yahoo News and I'll know for sure.

 

[woozman]

The last couple of times we have gone to Nashville we did AirBnb. So much cheaper and if you’re going with a group you can get something together to share the cost.

Plus you can save on meals.

 

[Dawgg]

From 1995:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1995/11/11/oilers-preparing-move-to-nashville/2ea668c2-1e6e-49e1-a1a4-5f7d745a56c7/

The Bryan Times - Google News Archive Search

news.google.com

NEXT STEP FOR OILERS MOVE TO NASHVILLE TAKES PLACE TUESDAY

The Houston Oilers are on the hook and now it's up to Nashville to reel in Tennessee's first professional sports team. The first snag could come Tuesday. The city's Metro Council is scheduled to vote on the 50-page legal agreement between Mayor Phil Bredesen and Oilers owner Bud Adams laying...

www.deseret.com

From 1996:

PRO FOOTBALL;N.F.L. Owners Approve Move To Nashville By the Oilers (Published 1996)

www.nytimes.com

At no point in there is Memphis ever mentioned as a potentially permanent home. At the most, the Liberty Bowl would be their home until 1998 if Adelphia wasn't finished in time for the '98 season.

Now... @AstroDog .... you may be able to say that previous to this, there were some handshake deals made that would have brought a team to Memphis, but once Adams made the decision to move the Oilers out of Houston, Memphis was never going to be more than a stop on the way to their permanent home in Nashville. Your boy Pepper Rogers gets a mention... as a partner for the Memphis Mad Dogs of the CFL.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Memphis was doomed on the expansion race when they decided to name the potential team the 17ing Houn’Dogs.

 

[Jacknut]

I believe they were supposed to play in Memphis two years while the new stadium was being built in Nashville. I went to most of the games, but as Astro mentioned, the Steelers game where there were more Steeler fans than Titans fans pissed Adams off and they played the next season at Vandy because of that.

 

[ckDOG]

Is Nashville conservative? I knew the outlying areas were, but I thought Nashville proper was leftist now and had been for a while?

No. It leans liberal and becoming more so as the economy continues to rapidly grow. Republicans have done a pretty good job carving it up to dilute their influence though. Pretty well documented.

 

[WilCoDawg]

No. It leans liberal and becoming more so as the economy continues to rapidly grow. Republicans have done a pretty good job carving it up to dilute their influence though. Pretty well documented.

Just like everyone else does.
The liberalism of Nashville never depended on the economy. Thank God it hasn’t gotten to the extent that other cities have but they’re trying. Lefties not rich enough to live the protected Nashville lifestyle flock to the ‘burbs and now have started to try and change the very places they moved to to match the ones they left.

 

[ckDOG]

Just like everyone else does.
The liberalism of Nashville never depended on the economy. Thank God it hasn’t gotten to the extent that other cities have but they’re trying. Lefties not rich enough to live the protected Nashville lifestyle flock to the ‘burbs and now have started to try and change the very places they moved to to match the ones they left.

Never suggested it was unique to Nashville nor party.

 

[dorndawg]

Just like everyone else does.
The liberalism of Nashville never depended on the economy. Thank God it hasn’t gotten to the extent that other cities have but they’re trying. Lefties not rich enough to live the protected Nashville lifestyle flock to the ‘burbs and now have started to try and change the very places they moved to to match the ones they left.

 

[WilCoDawg]

Never suggested it was unique to Nashville nor party.

I guess I miss all the times you call out liberals. A thousand apologies.

 

[WilCoDawg]

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[bully12]

I guess I miss all the times you call out liberals. A thousand apologies.

Hey, if he, or anyone else, needs any help in calling out leftist liberals, just let me know. I'm all-in on that!!

 

[ckDOG]

I guess I miss all the times you call out liberals. A thousand apologies.

Who's casting the bait on this forum? Conservatives start the politic threads and turn posts political the VAST majority of the time on this board. There's just simply more conservative commentary to respond to around here.