Thankful the 12 team playoff arrived when it did, or else...

klong-dog

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our little brother would be in the college football playoffs semi's. Now, at least they have to win a couple against some competition before getting there.
 

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We'll see how it plays out, but I think the 12-team CFP / 8-game SEC schedule lined up perfectly for Ole Miss. This might be the only season in which those two things align.
 

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My daughter saw Dart at church last night. I told her she should have taken one for the team and rolled up that knee. Unfortunately, she only talked about how hot he is. Damnit.
Does he go to church because he knows that he sold his soul and he's trying to get it back?
Or is it just for PR ?
 
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I realize we lead the country in "woe is me" fans, but the "uphill" battle we face against our in state foe greatly pales in comparison to the battle that Auburn faces. Yet the barn is competitive most years (and they've played UGA regularly) and although down this year, will be back. In SC, USEe should dominate Clemson, but the opposite actually happens. Our biggest problem is we have fans who seem to want us the fail and point out our failures and setbacks ad nauseam and often dog our university, players and town. Fans of other big time programs don't do this near the effect of our fans.

I'm friends with several barn fans, none of them have the defeatist attitude many of our fans have and they face a 1000 times bigger obstacle.
 
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Yeah that mentality is going to kill us unless we do something ourselves to flip it. Carter and Kiffin are a problem unlike anything most of us have had to deal with from them in our lifetime.
They won't be there forever just like Byrne and Mullen aren't at State anymore.

I haven't lived in Mississippi for 30 years now so I'm not exposed to their fans much, but I don't get the constant-handwringing from State fans over their current success. They'll be back down at some point and we'll be up and the cycle will continue. Coaches, ADs, and players come and go.
 
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We'll see how it plays out, but I think the 12-team CFP / 8-game SEC schedule lined up perfectly for Ole Miss. This might be the only season in which those two things align.
It is going to align for a bunch of teams leaving some of them out of the playoff.
 

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Setting up to be their year but never underestimate anything associated with MS to **** the bed.
 
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It is going to align for a bunch of teams leaving some of them out of the playoff.
I think it will work out for Ole Miss in particular because they have the easiest schedule.

According to ESPN FPI, they have the softest SOS through 4 weeks AND the easiest schedule from this point forward. They will end up with the weakest SOS by a wide margin.

Maybe if they lose two games they have to sweat it out because of their SOS, but at 11-1 it doesn’t matter who they played.
 
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I think it will work out for Ole Miss in particular because they have the easiest schedule.

According to ESPN FPI, they have the softest SOS through 4 weeks AND the easiest schedule from this point forward. They will end up with the weakest SOS by a wide margin.

Maybe if they lose two games they have to sweat it out because of their SOS, but at 11-1 it doesn’t matter who they played.
They will have to be 11-1 with that schedule. They are fixing to get tested physically the next three weeks. They are beat up now. Their Secondary is suspected. O line has not faced a SEC D line. They should beat KY and SC but they are fixing to get hit like they have not been hit all season. After coming home from Columbia SC, they have to go to LSU. We will see how tough they really are.
 

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They will have to be 11-1 with that schedule. They are fixing to get tested physically the next three weeks. They are beat up now. Their Secondary is suspected. O line has not faced a SEC D line. They should beat KY and SC but they are fixing to get hit like they have not been hit all season. After coming home from Columbia SC, they have to go to LSU. We will see how tough they really are.
No so fast my friend. As long as they stay Top 11. even with 2 losses, they are in, no matter their SOS. They just can't drop 2 in a row and drop down to 15 or worse. Because there are 2 teams left on their schedule that couldn't help their cause even if they win. Arkansas and State.
 

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No so fast my friend. As long as they stay Top 11. even with 2 losses, they are in, no matter their SOS. They just can't drop 2 in a row and drop down to 15 or worse. Because there are 2 teams left on their schedule that couldn't help their cause even if they win. Arkansas and State.
They will move them out of the top 11 at the end to get the line up they want using any explanation they want. The weakness of schedule is a lay up.
 

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Don't know if I've seen another MSU as enamored wit the rebs as you.
I think they win by 14 to 20. KY played their asses off against Georgia and lost. It might be a downer for them. However, Ole Miss has not played anybody and they are beat to hell and back physically. KY is no joke. They will hit you. Even their QB runs the ball like a full back. Ole Miss is going to get bruised up. Then they go to SC. They will hit you as well. They will have played two really hard-hitting games two weeks in a roll, then have to go on the road to LSU. Ole Miss defensive back field is questionable. Thier O line has not faced a D Line anything close to what KY is going to throw at them. The next three weeks for them is going to be hard physically on them.
 

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Don't know if I've seen another MSU as enamored wit the rebs as you.
I haven't seen them take a snap this season. But I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend they aren't a really, really good team like a lot on this board are doing.
 

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I think they win by 14 to 20. KY played their asses off against Georgia and lost. It might be a downer for them. However, Ole Miss has not played anybody and they are beat to hell and back physically. KY is no joke. They will hit you. Even their QB runs the ball like a full back. Ole Miss is going to get bruised up. Then they go to SC. They will hit you as well. They will have played two really hard-hitting games two weeks in a roll, then have to go on the road to LSU. Ole Miss defensive back field is questionable. Thier O line has not faced a D Line anything close to what KY is going to throw at them. The next three weeks for them is going to be hard physically on them.
its the SEC. And drawing Kentucky, SC, and LSU 3 weeks in a row is far from a gaunlet.

And we are severly over blowing how good SC and Kentucky are. They are average to below average SEC teams.

Ole Miss is good. This board hate to hear that, but they are. They've recruited well, have depth, and have experience at all the key positions. They'll likely slip up once or twice along the way, but with their pre-season ranking and their offense, and going 10-2 in the SEC is going to get them into the playoff.
 
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its the SEC. And drawing Kentucky, SC, and LSU 3 weeks in a row is far from a gaunlet.

And we are severly over blowing how good SC and Kentucky are. They are average to below average SEC teams.

Ole Miss is good. This board hate to hear that, but they are. They've recruited well, have depth, and have experience at all the key positions. They'll likely slip up once or twice along the way, but with their pre-season ranking and their offense, and going 10-2 in the SEC is going to get them into the playoff.
I am not saying those teams are good. I am saying they will hit you. Ole Miss is physically going to get beat up the next two weeks then they go on the road to LSU. No where did I say those two teams are good or Ole Miss is going to lose. All I am saying is they are going to get hit like they have not been hit all season.
 
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I am not saying those teams are good. I am saying they will hit you. Ole Miss is physically going to get beat up the next two weeks then they go on the road to LSU. No where did I say those two teams are good or Ole Miss is going to lose. All I am saying is they are going to get hit like they have not been hit all season. Let's face they are a QB injury away from being average.
everyone is a QB injury away from dropped down a notch. The entire country is minus Texas... ask Florida State how that works. Look how alabama looked without milroe last season against South Florida. So saying that isnt saying much

Theyve got a team full of guys use to the SEC grind. And again SC, Kentucky, LSU isnt exactly murder's row.. so i dont buy the physically beat up line. Those 3 games are nothing more than regular SEC games that "beat you up"

They play Kentucky, SC, and LSU-- they go 2-1, they are 6-1 likely still inside the top 10 and get a bye week

They then get Oklahoma, Arkansas, and UGA-- they go 2-1, they are 8-2 and get another bye week

They finish with Florida and us-- 10-2. Playoff bound.
 

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everyone is a QB injury away from dropped down a notch. The entire country is minus Texas... ask Florida State how that works. Look how alabama looked without milroe last season against South Florida. So saying that isnt saying much

Theyve got a team full of guys use to the SEC grind. And again SC, Kentucky, LSU isnt exactly murder's row.. so i dont buy the physically beat up line. Those 3 games are nothing more than regular SEC games that "beat you up"

They play Kentucky, SC, and LSU-- they go 2-1, they are 6-1 likely still inside the top 10 and get a bye week

They then get Oklahoma, Arkansas, and UGA-- they go 2-1, they are 8-2 and get another bye week

They finish with Florida and us-- 10-2. Playoff bound.
This is exactly how I expect it to go minus the loss to LSU.
 

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everyone is a QB injury away from dropped down a notch. The entire country is minus Texas... ask Florida State how that works. Look how alabama looked without milroe last season against South Florida. So saying that isnt saying much

They play Kentucky, SC, and LSU-- they go 2-1, they are 6-1 likely still inside the top 10 and get a bye week

They then get Oklahoma, Arkansas, and UGA-- they go 2-1, they are 8-2 and get another bye week

They finish with Florida and us-- 10-2. Playoff bound.
What if Bama, GA, Texas, Tenn, and LSU all have 10 wins or more along with Ole Miss. The SEC will not get six teams in the playoff. We can say that all we want but the committee will not let that many schools from one conference in. I think the SEC will be penalize for only playing 8 conference games. There are three other big conferences which I imagine will each get at least two teams in. There will not be as many spots available for the SEC as we think.

We all have our own opinion, and we will find out at the end of the season.
 

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What if Bama, GA, Texas, Tenn, and LSU all have 10 wins or more along with Ole Miss. The SEC will not get six teams in the playoff. We can say that all we want but the committee will not let that many schools from one conference in. I think the SEC will be penalize for only playing 8 conference games. There are three other big conferences which I imagine will each get at least two teams in. There will not be as many spots available for the SEC as we think.

We all have our own opinion, and we will find out at the end of the season.
the SEC will likely get 4 in. With LSU already having 1 loss, and Alabama and UGA playing this weekend. Ole Miss/UGA UGA/Tenn playing later and LSU/Bama and Bama/UT playing as well. Its impossible for all those teams to end up 10-2.

4 sec
2 acc
1 big 12
3 big 10
1 non P4

that still leaves one more spot. SEC gets 4 for sure. Maybe 5
 

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the SEC will likely get 4 in. With LSU already having 1 loss, and Alabama and UGA playing this weekend. Ole Miss/UGA UGA/Tenn playing later and LSU/Bama and Bama/UT playing as well. Its impossible for all those teams to end up 10-2.

4 sec
2 acc
1 big 12
3 big 10
1 non P4

that still leaves one more spot. SEC gets 4 for sure. Maybe 5
Looking at the Big 12 schedule Oklahoma State could end the regular season at 11-1 and Utah 12-0. If that happens, they both get in.
 

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Looking at the Big 12 schedule Oklahoma State could end the regular season at 11-1 and Utah 12-0. If that happens, they both get in.
Ok. Thats the extra spot.

Again it's all going to play out on the field. But if you think the SEC isnt getting at least 4 teams in this, then so be it. Every season since we've gone to this system then SEC has had 4 teams in the top 12. They arent all of a sudden going to start penaliizing whats proven to be the best league in football, not to mention the league that is the cash cow.

a 10 win sec team, is going to get in the playoff barring absolute chaos... and even then... absolute chaos has always benefitted the sec.

Youre scenario of 6 teams being 10-2 in the SEC just isnt a real possibility. Maybe 5 can be, even then it would be really difficult looking at the schedules.

EDIT: Just looked it up. In the last 25 years. 1 time, minus bowl games has the SEC had 5 10 win teams finish the regular season.... and only 1 time WITH BOWL wins, has it had 6 teams finish the season with 10 wins.

I do realize that adding 2 teams makes this feat a little easier to accomplish. But thats the history behind it and how difficult it would be for 6 teams to accomplish that feat.
 
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