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GloryDawg

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Ok. Thats the extra spot.

Again it's all going to play out on the field. But if you think the SEC isnt getting at least 4 teams in this, then so be it. Every season since we've gone to this system then SEC has had 4 teams in the top 12. They arent all of a sudden going to start penaliizing whats proven to be the best league in football, not to mention the league that is the cash cow.

a 10 win sec team, is going to get in the playoff barring absolute chaos... and even then... absolute chaos has always benefitted the sec.

Youre scenario of 6 teams being 10-2 in the SEC just isnt a real possibility. Maybe 5 can be, even then it would be really difficult looking at the schedules.
Totally agree. Let's see how it plays out. I do think each p4 gets two teams in. That's 8 teams. then one g5 team. That only leaves three spots. SEC could get all three. I just think there will be some blue blood teams with 10 wins in the Big 10. They will probably get at least 3.
 

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I haven't seen them take a snap this season. But I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend they aren't a really, really good team like a lot on this board are doing.
Prior to the season, everyone knew they were a playoff team and would likely be 10-2 at the worst. You seem to keep on with how good they are. We all know it.
 

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I am not saying those teams are good. I am saying they will hit you. Ole Miss is physically going to get beat up the next two weeks then they go on the road to LSU. No where did I say those two teams are good or Ole Miss is going to lose. All I am saying is they are going to get hit like they have not been hit all season.
It's major college football. Everyone will hit you. Thing is, none of those teams (LSU included) are close to as good as Mississippi is. They'll be OK.
 
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Totally agree. Let's see how it plays out. I do think each p4 gets two teams in. That's 8 teams. then one g5 team. That only leaves three spots. SEC could get all three. I just think there will be some blue blood teams with 10 wins in the Big 10. They will probably get at least 3.
I dont think the big 12 is going to be strong enough for 2 teams. Their conference is to weak.

ND, Clemson, Louisville, Miami will get the 2 ACC spots

Michigan, USC, Oregon, Ohio State, Penn State-- all fighting for 3 spots up north

4 given spots down here to the SEC that will play out on the field.

That leaves 2 spots. 1 for the p5 and 1 still hanging around out there for a deserving team either a 5 sec team, 4th northern school.
 
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Yeah that mentality is going to kill us unless we do something ourselves to flip it. Carter and Kiffin are a problem unlike anything most of us have had to deal with from them in our lifetime.
Amateurs compared to Vaught
 

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Since when did this become a board to sing the Rebs praises? Y'all take the cake. Just convert already.
 

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Since when did this become a board to sing the Rebs praises? Y'all take the cake. Just convert already.
I swear, it makes zero sense. Everyone knew before the season how good they would be. Yes we know they are play off team. Our fans can stop about how great they are, we all know it.

They only have one game that is a likely loss (not saying they won't slip up and drop one or two more, or won't beat UGA), even at 10-2, they are playoff team.
 

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I dont think the big 12 is going to be strong enough for 2 teams. Their conference is to weak.

ND, Clemson, Louisville, Miami will get the 2 ACC spots

Michigan, USC, Oregon, Ohio State, Penn State-- all fighting for 3 spots up north

4 given spots down here to the SEC that will play out on the field.

That leaves 2 spots. 1 for the p5 and 1 still hanging around out there for a deserving team either a 5 sec team, 4th northern school.
I don't think it's a given either the ACC or Big 12 will get 2 teams in the playoff.
SEC - 4 or 5
Big 10 - probably 4
ACC/Big 12 - 2 or 3
Random G5 champion - 1
 

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No so fast my friend. As long as they stay Top 11. even with 2 losses, they are in, no matter their SOS. They just can't drop 2 in a row and drop down to 15 or worse. Because there are 2 teams left on their schedule that couldn't help their cause even if they win. Arkansas and State.
The top-11 heuristic could end up being right, but it is based on the assumption that the G5 champ will be the only team outside the top 11 to receive an auto-bid. What if Clemson wins the ACC (currently ranked #17)? What if UCF wins the Big 12 (currently unranked)?

In other words, the top 11 teams make the CFP provided there are four conference champs in the top 11. That can't be guaranteed until after the regular season.
 

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The top-11 heuristic could end up being right, but it is based on the assumption that the G5 champ will be the only team outside the top 11 to receive an auto-bid. What if Clemson wins the ACC (currently ranked #17)? What if UCF wins the Big 12 (currently unranked)?

In other words, the top 11 teams make the CFP provided there are four conference champs in the top 11. That can't be guaranteed until after the regular season.
If Clemson wins the ACC or UCF wins the Big 12, they probably just steal the 1 bid from the regular season champion. But you're right, there's a lot of ways this could play out, and I don't think anyone really knows what will happen. But I think, as we saw last year, the committee will just take the 7 at-large bids they want and then make the ranking reflect that. Hypothetical, if Mississippi goes 11-1, but doesn't make the SEC title game, and Dart gets hurt in the Egg Bowl, they'll find a way to leave them out.
 

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Amateurs compared to Vaught
The current setup is the closest thing they’ve had to Vaught since integration. It’s a higher level of success than they had under Cutcliffe or Freeze, combined with us not having our crap together.
 

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I don't think it's a given either the ACC or Big 12 will get 2 teams in the playoff.
SEC - 4 or 5
Big 10 - probably 4
ACC/Big 12 - 2 or 3
Random G5 champion - 1
I think the ACC will get 2. I dont think the big 12 will get but 1.

But the ACC currently has:
Miami 4-0, #7
Louisville 4-0, #14
1 loss ND and clemson who are both #16 and #17 and both are big brands

Plus they got screwed last season. Looking at both ND and Clemson's schedule they both seem like they could easily get to 10-2. And looking at the miami schedule its hard to find 1 loss let alone two...And again your dealing wtih a big brand.

I'd be shocked if the ACC doesnt get 2 out of that mix. It would take a complete fall apart by for 2 of them to not finish 10-2 or better... and a 10-2 ND or a 10-2 Clemson isnt going to be left out.
 
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The top-11 heuristic could end up being right, but it is based on the assumption that the G5 champ will be the only team outside the top 11 to receive an auto-bid. What if Clemson wins the ACC (currently ranked #17)? What if UCF wins the Big 12 (currently unranked)?

In other words, the top 11 teams make the CFP provided there are four conference champs in the top 11. That can't be guaranteed until after the regular season.
if clemson wins the ACC or UCF wins the Big 12... both would be highly ranked and both would be the deserving team from either conference.... and the most likely scenario would be knocking one of their own out, not someone from another conference.

The bid stealing would only truly happen if a team like Iowa beat Michigan in the Big10 championship game.
 
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The current setup is the closest thing they’ve had to Vaught since integration. It’s a higher level of success than they had under Cutcliffe or Freeze, combined with us not having our crap together.
You want some cheese with that?
 

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If Clemson wins the ACC or UCF wins the Big 12, they probably just steal the 1 bid from the regular season champion. But you're right, there's a lot of ways this could play out, and I don't think anyone really knows what will happen. But I think, as we saw last year, the committee will just take the 7 at-large bids they want and then make the ranking reflect that. Hypothetical, if Mississippi goes 11-1, but doesn't make the SEC title game, and Dart gets hurt in the Egg Bowl, they'll find a way to leave them out.
My point is more about the top 11 making the CFP. Yes, UCF could be the only Big 12 team included, but if they're not in the top 11, that would be one less top 11 team in the CFP (assuming the G5 and/or ACC champ is also outside the top 11).

I'll give another scenario: If the top 10 is made up of only teams from the SEC, Big Ten, Pac-12, and FBS independents*, by definition, at least one of those top 10 teams will be left out.

*-in other words, no ACC, Big 12, or G5 teams in the top 10
 
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My point is more about the top 11 making the CFP. Yes, UCF could be the only Big 12 team included, but if they're not in the top 11, that would be one less top 11 team in the CFP (assuming the G5 and/or ACC champ is also outside the top 11).

I'll give another scenario: If the top 10 is made up of only teams from the SEC, Big Ten, Pac-12, and FBS independents*, by definition, at least one of those top 10 teams will be left out.

*-in other words, no ACC, Big 12, or G5 teams in the top 10
I see what you're saying now. And yeah, I think you're right. #11 could very easily get left out. Maybe even #10.
 

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if clemson wins the ACC or UCF wins the Big 12... both would be highly ranked and both would be the deserving team from either conference.... and the most likely scenario would be knocking one of their own out, not someone from another conference.
I'm not counting teams from a particular conference. Clemson and UCF (or whoever) could be their conference's only qualifying team and still be outside the top 11.

All it would take is a 3-loss team making the conference title game and winning.
 

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So why are you praising Ole Miss here? Why not do it on one of their boards?
Because I’m not an Ole Miss fan and have no interest in visiting whatever fan site cesspools they have, and someone else started this thread about their playoff chances. Merely responding to it.
 

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The bid stealing would only truly happen if a team like Iowa beat Michigan in the Big10 championship game.
Remember that they also have gotten rid of divisions, so Iowa doesn't have the same path to the championship game that it used to.

The Big Ten championship game is very likely to be two of Ohio State, Penn State, and Oregon.
 

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I'm not counting teams from a particular conference. Clemson and UCF (or whoever) could be their conference's only qualifying team and still be outside the top 11.

All it would take is a 3-loss team making the conference title game and winning.
sure. but you can do the math. You finish inside the top 8 you are guarenteed a spot. and most likely you finish inside the top 10 you'll be guarenteed a spot.

and again if a 3 loss clemson beats a 1 loss miami in the ACC championship game. The loss by miami likely knocks them out of the top 10 or 12 or whatever is needed to be in the playoffs. Hence why unless its a a team that can still lose and get in.. which in the past there arent many of those teams outside of the big10 or sec... then they wont be stealing a bid from those 2 conferences... they'll be knocking one of their own out
 

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It will flip again. Integration happened 40 years ago.
"40"?
"Forget it. He's rolling."

Seriously, 1. It WILL flip again. 2. These guys are amateurs at cheating compared to Vaught AND Bear. 3. They, in fact, have not played anyone.
 

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"40"?
"Forget it. He's rolling."

Seriously, 1. It WILL flip again. 2. These guys are amateurs at cheating compared to Vaught AND Bear. 3. They, in fact, have not played anyone.
It's not like it was when Bear and Vaught were around. With the portal and NIL, it's all about money. Ole Miss has some money, but it's nowhere close to the level of schools like Texas A&M and Notre Dame. Don't tell them because they think they can spend with those guys.
The only chance any of us has is that we are part of the SEC, which translates into a huge money contract from television. We really have to suck it up right now, but we could be a lot worse in the long run. We can't be much worse than we are right now this season.
 
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I'm not in denial that OM is good. I watched them play MTSU and some of the Wake highlights. They are good defensively and offensively but they aren't UGA, Tx or Bama. MTSU is a 24 point dog to Memphis St this weekend btw.

If the UK that showed up to play UGA, shows up in Oxford..... it will be a tight game. Book it.

If LSU has their head on straight, they'll give OM all the want and more.

OM will probably beat UK, barely. But I think LSU takes them. And maybe USC. USC has a cupcake, off week to prep and then OM.
 

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It's not like it was when Bear and Vaught were around. With the portal and NIL, it's all about money. Ole Miss has some money, but it's nowhere close to the level of schools like Texas A&M and Notre Dame. Don't tell them because they think they can spend with those guys.
The only chance any of us has is that we are part of the SEC, which translates into a huge money contract from television. We really have to suck it up right now, but we could be a lot worse in the long run. We can't be much worse than we are right now this season.
It's always been about money. The only real difference is the portal.
 

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what I want to see is a 12-0 team lose toa 9-3 team in the conference championship game.
 

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I realize we lead the country in "woe is me" fans, but the "uphill" battle we face against our in state foe greatly pales in comparison to the battle that Auburn faces. Yet the barn is competitive most years (and they've played UGA regularly) and although down this year, will be back. In SC, USEe should dominate Clemson, but the opposite actually happens. Our biggest problem is we have fans who seem to want us the fail and point out our failures and setbacks ad nauseam and often dog our university, players and town. Fans of other big time programs don't do this near the effect of our fans.

I'm friends with several barn fans, none of them have the defeatist attitude many of our fans have and they face a 1000 times bigger obstacle.

This is the absolute truth. It's to the point where I believe some of our fans want us to fail, be left out, etc. just so they can say I told you so.

We're having a bad year in football. Otherwise we're positioned well for the coming changes, whatever they are.

I saw a big thread a few weeks ago when our game that aired at 10:30 eastern didn't get many viewers. I didn't see one this week when our 11am Florida game was the 7th most watched game of the week, network or otherwise.
 

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This is the absolute truth. It's to the point where I believe some of our fans want us to fail, be left out, etc. just so they can say I told you so.

We're having a bad year in football. Otherwise we're positioned well for the coming changes, whatever they are.

I saw a big thread a few weeks ago when our game that aired at 10:30 eastern didn't get many viewers. I didn't see one this week when our 11am Florida game was the 7th most watched game of the week, network or otherwise.
Not only all that, but we've punched well above our weight since JWS came on board.

Yes, the Croom error was bad, the Zack Morris error was bad and this year is bad, but we'll be back to 7-5/8-4 in a couple years, i'm 100% confident in that.

We do have a little bit of an excuse for our current downturn, the most popular and one of the best coaches in CFB history died on active duty, coming off a big win. Our admin bungled our way through that, but it was unprecedented. We'd be coming off an 8 or 9 win season, with a long bowl streak, if not for that.

I'd love to have a phycological profile done our fans to figure out why they are so negative, other fan bases of big time programs aren't like us.
 
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