Seeing pundits talk about the public losing confidence in the CFP committee.
I don't even know what that means.
I don't even know what that means.
The best part about FSU missing the CFP
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Seemed like the obvious choice would have been to use the BCS to get the teams that would compete in the playoffs. However, for the most part, the BCS rankings have matched up with the BCS rankings. Although this year the BCS had Bama, Wash, Mich, and FSU with TX being left out.
Yep. And I would not have had any issue with that at all.
The BCS used a lot of requisites - Sagarin, etc. I expect the CFP Committee looks at the computer matrices when they get in a crack. But the more I think about it, using the requisites you posted awhile ago, they weren't really in a crack this time.
If they are upset, they need to be upset with the criteria the current system has for them to follow in selecting teams. Because according to the set criteria, they got the picks correct.
I draw a distinction between rightfully and understandably. The committee was true to its purpose.
Idk about all that with the metric they use to define best. But I’m not going to argue with you. I’m just glad this bill crap is over.
I disagree and they do as well. Many reason why. Richard Sherman and rg3 make a lot of those points. The committee failed college football plain and simple.
As if the CFP is making decisions that impact society. Who cares if people have confidence in them?
What part of the set criteria did they get wrong or did not follow?
Was it part 1, Conference champs? Well, they are both conference champs so that part is a wash.
Was it part 2, SOS? Well, Alabama had the number 5 ranked SOS and FSU had the number 55. So you got to give that one to Alabama.
Was it head-to-head? Well, seeing they did not play each other this season, this part is a wash.
Was it comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory? They had one common opponent and they both boat-raced them.
Was it other relevant factors such as the unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team's performance during the season or likely its postseason performance? Well, seeing that FSU's starting QB who was the heart and soul of that offense broke his leg, you would have to say that that one is a negative strike on FSU.
So based on the criteria that are supposed to be used, Alabama should and did get the nod. If it had come down to Texas and Alabama for the 4th spot, Texas should have gotten the nod based on the head-to-head.
I 100% get not agreeing with the set criteria, but that is a completely different debate than this. The goal of the committee has never been to pick the most deserving teams, it has always been to select the best 4 teams using a set criteria, and they absolutely did that correctly based on that set criteria.
Excellent explanation! And of course, next year will be completely different. The debate will be over the 11th ranked team, and frankly no one outside of the first team out will care for more than a day.
Now, I think it is a big deal that FSU got left out, and I understand all of the discussions. I just happen to think Bama is a better team and I’m glad they got in. And next year FSU at 12-0 would be in the playoff too. (Side note, they could have been THIS year if the ACC hadn’t held out on expanding earlier, which they did).
Next year, we could easily have a team outside of the top 12. They will have automatic bids for P5 conference champions (actually it would be P4 next season with the PAC12 going away). Those conference champs will get a 1st round bye. Then the next automatic bid would be the top-ranked GO5 team. The rest of the 12 teams will then be the highest-ranked remaining teams to fill out the 12 teams. So any of those auto bids could be outside the top 12. This season Liberty would have gotten in as the highest-ranked GO5 school and they are ranked #23 I believe.
This would have been a good year to have the old system. The pre-Bowl Alliance/BCS system. Washington and Michigan could play in the Rose Bowl. Texas would go to the Cotton Bowl and play either Oregon or Ohio State. Alabama would go to the Sugar Bowl and play either Oregon or Ohio State. FSU would go the Orange Bowl to play Georgia. Then, vote after the bowls. The AP would probably vote for the winner of the Rose Bowl while the coaches might pick somebody else. College football fans would spend the entire off-season arguing about which poll was right and looking forward to the next year.
It’s funny to hear all the discussion, as if there’s some kind of moral crisis unfolding before our eyes.
Not even true. A bigger failure would have been to trot a putrid offense out there to get beat 31-3 by Mich. If you think having less competitive games in the sport’s playoff is better for the sport then I can’t help you. GSU had a chance to show they were still elite without Travis. They failed to do so.
The ACC voted against expanding. They could have sided with Sankey on playoff expansion. They’re getting exactly what they asked for…chaos.
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The only way people could disagree is bc of emotions. Period.
The point is you don’t know that Michigan would have won. Look no further than Oregon/washington. By people’s opinion Oregon was suppose to win by 9 points.
You can say that but it doesn’t make it true. There is a lot of discontent right now not linked to emotions. Either way the committee got it wrong because if you were picking the 4 best with the eye test Georgia should have been in.
Not everyone deserves a shot.
This is a shocking take for the entitlement generation.
I have listed out the criteria that they are supposed to utilize when picking the four teams, if you think they got it wrong, can you tell me what section of that criteria was gotten wrong?
No, by Vegas’ opinion. The CFP had Wash ahead of Ore. Most people thought that was line was crazy. And Wash had already beaten them once. If you just watched both Wah and Ore play, they both play like elite teams. FSU didn’t even look like a top 25 team those last 2 games.
I agree there. UGA has more of a right to be pissed than FSU.
The problem with UGA is based on the criteria they are instructed to use in selecting the four best teams, they get taken out based on H2H and no conference championship.
And I might add, the best four teams at a particular point in time, which was Sunday. Having done that, they are home free, and history minus hysteria will record that.
UGA and FSU had similar schedules and feats IMO. UGA probably had the easiest schedule in the SEC with non-conference cupcakes. That had to be on purpose.
FSU even worse because it’s the ACC. FSU is good, really good. But to me they don’t look as polished and as fast paced as AL or even GA.
Im not an Alabama fan, as a matter of fact i am kind of tired of seeing then at the top. But that aside- I agree with Alabama getting in and FSU not.
FSU even worse because it’s the ACC. FSU is good, really good. But to me they don’t look as polished and as fast paced as AL or even GA.
Im not an Alabama fan, as a matter of fact i am kind of tired of seeing then at the top. But that aside- I agree with Alabama getting in and FSU not.
See I like this. Every D1 team in the country should have a possible path to the national championship IMO. Allowing one GO5 will do that. That one spot in the playoffs is a small price to pay to allow everyone a seat at the table. Every team in the country can start the season believing they could be national champs. That's a big deal.
With the PAC12 going away and if they keep it at 6 automatic qualifiers for conference champs, you could get two GO5 teams in. I just wish they would put a minimum ranking requirement in place. Or else it will be like in the old BCS days where you had crappy Big East teams in the BCS games because the conference had a contract that put one of them in a BCS game and they dropped to being one of the worst conferences in FBS football.
The way I see it is there is too fine a line between some of these "Power 5" conferences and say the AAC most years. I don't see a problem with having a minimum ranking requirement. I think most years a GO5 would fulfill it. If two could fulfill it, more power to them.
The set criteria they use to pick the four best teams eliminates UGA. It is the four best teams selected using the set criteria. It is not just the four best teams.
Do they really have set criteria though? Because the exclusion of FSU seems to show they'll use "eye test" (read gut feeling) over set criteria.
Correct. As is injuries to key players, which eliminates FSU.
