The bowl selection process since the CFP has come into play

615dawg

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Some of you need this because you are scarred by memories of 1999. Its different. The bowls don't select as much as they used to. Here is how the bowls in the SEC work.

1. Playoff.

This one is simple and well understood. If you are in the top four of the CFP Committee's final rankings, you go to the Playoff Semifinals. This bowls rotate. The rotation is important for Item 2.

2a. New Year's 6 - Automatic Bid.

The top rated SEC team not in the playoff goes to the Sugar Bowl. If the Sugar Bowl is a playoff semifinal, the top rated SEC team not in the playoff goes to the Orange Bowl (that was us in 2014). Auburn once went to the Sugar Bowl with an 8-4 record and a No 17 ranking.

2b. New Year's 6 - At Large Bid.

After the contractual bids to NY6 are given, the top remaining at-large teams are placed in NY6 games. This can be as simple as the top 12 or as complex as the top 9+. Right now, the rankings indicate that the top 11 teams + the top G5 team (currently Tulane) are going to get a NY6 game. This could change with today's results and the Big 12 and Big 10 championships being won by the underdogs. Say Kansas State and Purdue upset TCU and Ohio State/Michigan, K-State and Purdue would get auto bids and shut No. 10 and No. 11 out of the at-large process. But right now, if chalk holds, its top 11 and the AAC Championship game winner.


3. Citrus Bowl.

The Citrus Bowl is on its own tier in the SEC and Big Ten. The Citrus Bowl takes its choice of the best record of teams in those conferences not in the NY6. Right now its Penn State from the Big Ten and no one else. In the SEC, its Mississippi State and Ole Miss, with South Carolina in the choice pod if they beat Clemson. No one else from the SEC can go to the Citrus Bowl if four SEC teams go to the NY6.

4. The Group of 6 Bowls

This is where we have lived for the past decade, and our fans still don't understand it. There is no difference between the Liberty, Music City, Texas, Belk/Las Vegas, Gator and Outback (now Reliaquest) Bowls. The teams on this tier tell the SEC their top two preferences, the bowls tell the SEC their top two preferences, and everyone works together to make it happen to the best of their ability. Sometimes a bowl gets a team they don't really want, and sometimes a team gets a bowl they really don't want.

5. Birmingham Bowl

If there are any available SEC teams after the Group of 6 bowls make their picks, the Birmingham Bowl gets the first pick of available teams.

6. Gasparilla Bowl

If there are any available teams after the Birmingham Bowl makes its pick, the Gasparilla Bowl gets the first pick of available teams.

7. Non-Affiliated Bowls

If there are available SEC teams left after the Gasparilla Bowl makes its pick, then that team is grouped with all other available teams from all conferences and allowed to be picked.
 

mcdawg22

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Some of you need this because you are scarred by memories of 1999. Its different. The bowls don't select as much as they used to. Here is how the bowls in the SEC work.

1. Playoff.

This one is simple and well understood. If you are in the top four of the CFP Committee's final rankings, you go to the Playoff Semifinals. This bowls rotate. The rotation is important for Item 2.

2a. New Year's 6 - Automatic Bid.

The top rated SEC team not in the playoff goes to the Sugar Bowl. If the Sugar Bowl is a playoff semifinal, the top rated SEC team not in the playoff goes to the Orange Bowl (that was us in 2014). Auburn once went to the Sugar Bowl with an 8-4 record and a No 17 ranking.

2b. New Year's 6 - At Large Bid.

After the contractual bids to NY6 are given, the top remaining at-large teams are placed in NY6 games. This can be as simple as the top 12 or as complex as the top 9+. Right now, the rankings indicate that the top 11 teams + the top G5 team (currently Tulane) are going to get a NY6 game. This could change with today's results and the Big 12 and Big 10 championships being won by the underdogs. Say Kansas State and Purdue upset TCU and Ohio State/Michigan, K-State and Purdue would get auto bids and shut No. 10 and No. 11 out of the at-large process. But right now, if chalk holds, its top 11 and the AAC Championship game winner.


3. Citrus Bowl.

The Citrus Bowl is on its own tier in the SEC and Big Ten. The Citrus Bowl takes its choice of the best record of teams in those conferences not in the NY6. Right now its Penn State from the Big Ten and no one else. In the SEC, its Mississippi State and Ole Miss, with South Carolina in the choice pod if they beat Clemson. No one else from the SEC can go to the Citrus Bowl if four SEC teams go to the NY6.

4. The Group of 6 Bowls

This is where we have lived for the past decade, and our fans still don't understand it. There is no difference between the Liberty, Music City, Texas, Belk/Las Vegas, Gator and Outback (now Reliaquest) Bowls. The teams on this tier tell the SEC their top two preferences, the bowls tell the SEC their top two preferences, and everyone works together to make it happen to the best of their ability. Sometimes a bowl gets a team they don't really want, and sometimes a team gets a bowl they really don't want.

5. Birmingham Bowl

If there are any available SEC teams after the Group of 6 bowls make their picks, the Birmingham Bowl gets the first pick of available teams.

6. Gasparilla Bowl

If there are any available teams after the Birmingham Bowl makes its pick, the Gasparilla Bowl gets the first pick of available teams.

7. Non-Affiliated Bowls

If there are available SEC teams left after the Gasparilla Bowl makes its pick, then that team is grouped with all other available teams from all conferences and allowed to be picked.
You know this way better than I do but yesterday when I looked at the SEC site for bowl selection it just says Citrus has next pick after NY6. It doesn’t say anywhere that it has to take the remaining team with Tempe best record. Where did you find your info?
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615dawg

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You know this way better than I do but yesterday when I looked at the SEC site for bowl selection it just says Citrus has next pick after NY6. It doesn’t say anywhere that it has to take the remaining team with Tempe best record. Where did you find your info?
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From being an avid college football fan and observing over the years.

the Citrus Bowl has to take an 8-4 team. They can take Ole Miss over us but they won’t. If SC beats Clemson, I expect they will take SC, but they don’t have to.

if Tennessee loses today or Purdue and Kansas State both win next week, Tennessee will go to the Citrus.
 

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From being an avid college football fan and observing over the years.
You do realize that doesn't mean a thing, don't you? As mcdog22 points out, the SEC website doesn't mention anything about a requirement the Citrus has to pick based on record. With the bowl paying the SEC $8.5M, I suspect the SEC will be OK if they want a 7-5 team over an 8-4 team.
 

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You do realize that doesn't mean a thing, don't you? As mcdog22 points out, the SEC website doesn't mention anything about a requirement the Citrus has to pick based on record. With the bowl paying the SEC $8.5M, I suspect the SEC will be OK if they want a 7-5 team over an 8-4 team.
I would be shocked if We were skipped based on our beat guys current thoughts on the bowl projections.
 
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Winning the Egg Bowl bumped us up and out of contention for the Duke's Mayo Bowl in Charlotte (the closest bowl site to me), but I'm totally OK with that.
 

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So you’re saying the representatives from the Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl that sat behind me at the ETSU game was nothing more than a business write-off?
 
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Some of you need this because you are scarred by memories of 1999. Its different. The bowls don't select as much as they used to. Here is how the bowls in the SEC work.

1. Playoff.

This one is simple and well understood. If you are in the top four of the CFP Committee's final rankings, you go to the Playoff Semifinals. This bowls rotate. The rotation is important for Item 2.

2a. New Year's 6 - Automatic Bid.

The top rated SEC team not in the playoff goes to the Sugar Bowl. If the Sugar Bowl is a playoff semifinal, the top rated SEC team not in the playoff goes to the Orange Bowl (that was us in 2014). Auburn once went to the Sugar Bowl with an 8-4 record and a No 17 ranking.

2b. New Year's 6 - At Large Bid.

After the contractual bids to NY6 are given, the top remaining at-large teams are placed in NY6 games. This can be as simple as the top 12 or as complex as the top 9+. Right now, the rankings indicate that the top 11 teams + the top G5 team (currently Tulane) are going to get a NY6 game. This could change with today's results and the Big 12 and Big 10 championships being won by the underdogs. Say Kansas State and Purdue upset TCU and Ohio State/Michigan, K-State and Purdue would get auto bids and shut No. 10 and No. 11 out of the at-large process. But right now, if chalk holds, its top 11 and the AAC Championship game winner.


3. Citrus Bowl.

The Citrus Bowl is on its own tier in the SEC and Big Ten. The Citrus Bowl takes its choice of the best record of teams in those conferences not in the NY6. Right now its Penn State from the Big Ten and no one else. In the SEC, its Mississippi State and Ole Miss, with South Carolina in the choice pod if they beat Clemson. No one else from the SEC can go to the Citrus Bowl if four SEC teams go to the NY6.

4. The Group of 6 Bowls

This is where we have lived for the past decade, and our fans still don't understand it. There is no difference between the Liberty, Music City, Texas, Belk/Las Vegas, Gator and Outback (now Reliaquest) Bowls. The teams on this tier tell the SEC their top two preferences, the bowls tell the SEC their top two preferences, and everyone works together to make it happen to the best of their ability. Sometimes a bowl gets a team they don't really want, and sometimes a team gets a bowl they really don't want.

5. Birmingham Bowl

If there are any available SEC teams after the Group of 6 bowls make their picks, the Birmingham Bowl gets the first pick of available teams.

6. Gasparilla Bowl

If there are any available teams after the Birmingham Bowl makes its pick, the Gasparilla Bowl gets the first pick of available teams.

7. Non-Affiliated Bowls

If there are available SEC teams left after the Gasparilla Bowl makes its pick, then that team is grouped with all other available teams from all conferences and allowed to be picked.
Question, how do we get to the Independence Bowl, since I've seen opposing fans wish us luck there this year.
 

615dawg

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Question, how do we get to the Independence Bowl, since I've seen opposing fans wish us luck there this year.
Independence Bowl no longer has an SEC tie in. Charlotte Bowl rotates with Las Vegas. This is a Vegas year. Next two years will be Charlotte.

Have no idea why Gasparilla reps were at the ETSU game. Even if we would have lost to Ole Miss, we would have been in the Group of Six tier.

I expect Georgia to Playoff, Alabama the auto NY6, Tennessee and LSU at large NY6 (an LSU-Tulane matchup, maybe)

Mississippi State to the Citrus.

Ole Miss, South Carolina, Missouri, Kentucky, Arkansas and Florida in the Group of 6 games.

Missouri to Liberty (Kansas matchup)
Florida to Reliaquest
Ole Miss to Vegas (I think that will be their choice and they will get first choice by being the top team in this tier)
SC to Gator
Arkansas to Music City
Kentucky to Houston

Auburn and Vanderbilt playing for Birmingham and Gasparilla today
 
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So you’re saying the representatives from the Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl that sat behind me at the ETSU game was nothing more than a business write-off?
Go back and read the OP. The bowls submit a preference for the teams they would like in their bowl game so it’s still on them to go do their research.
 

615dawg

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Here’s a scenario that hasn’t been discussed.

Michigan and Ohio State both going to the Playoff sends Penn State to the Rose Bowl and likely moves Purdue to the Citrus.

Tennessee would then be first team out if there is an upset in the Big 12 or Big Ten championship and would obviously drop Tennessee to Citrus.
 

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Here’s a scenario that hasn’t been discussed.

Michigan and Ohio State both going to the Playoff sends Penn State to the Rose Bowl and likely moves Purdue to the Citrus.

Tennessee would then be first team out if there is an upset in the Big 12 or Big Ten championship and would obviously drop Tennessee to Citrus.

I don’t see how a 10-2 Tennessee is ranked below an 11-1 TCU. That would be a travesty, as the Big 12 is a glorified G5 conference. Purdue winning the B1G could bump them above UT, but they are 10th now so there would have to be another team that leap frogs them also.

Overall, a 10-win SEC team should never be left out of the NY6 under any circumstances. Especially one that has 2 wins over CFP top 10 teams.
 
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