The great Trent Johnson...
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that right there shows you people are like a cult....Johnson took over a team with a losing record the two previous seasons and won the outright title...trying to detract from that is just plain dumb
Stansbury's record against top 25 teams is less than .333...and less than .400 against top 50 teams...trying to make him into something more than he really is just makes you look pathetic
Stansbury's record against top 25 teams is less than .333...and less than .400 against top 50 teams...trying to make him into something more than he really is just makes you look pathetic
And then, led them to two straight losing seasons and was fired. This is the guy you want to replace Stansbury, the guy that was fired for two straight losing seasons.Coach34 said:
Which is incredibly stupid. What I said is true, no matter if you believe it or not. Going undefeated on the road in the SEC is never an easy task. Especially when the conference isn't in the gutter like it has been lately. I.e., like when your boy won an SEC title.</p>
How are you even trying to bring in records against top 25 teams here?? That only shows what a senseless son of a ***** you are. Has nothing to do with the argument, but you can't help yourself I guess.</p>
How are you even trying to bring in records against top 25 teams here?? That only shows what a senseless son of a ***** you are. Has nothing to do with the argument, but you can't help yourself I guess.</p>
is that I didn't mention Rick Stansbury's name. He is completely obsessed with hating that man for some reason.
Take talent to the tournament enough times and you will get lucky and have a team get hot. That's how Brady made it to the Final Four and that's how Gottfried made the Elite Eight. Stansbury will get lucky eventually too.Coach34 said:
If State hadn't gotten screwed over with Texas, we probably woudln't be having this conversation. Also, while Stansbury has to take some of the blame for the teams that lost to Memphis and Duke being an 8 and 9 seed in the first place, those teams were playing well in the tournament, so it's not like Stansbury causes his teams to play poorly in March. Eventually he will catch a break and things will fall into place.
didn't hurt that he had one first round draft pick (fourth overall) and one 2nd round draft pick (who played an integral part in a nba championship team) on his final four team. if anything contributed to them making the final four, it was those two guys, not john brady. just saying...
So, when Brady had good players- he won like he was supposed to? Thank you Jim Nance
It's always the same shitabout Stansbury:
"If State hadn't gotten screwed over with Texas"
"We had to play a hot Xavier team"
"Butler was really good, they beat Louisville"
"We were tired from the SEC Tourney and had to play in Washington"
Excuse after damn excuse...over and over...
Fact- Stansbury coming into 2010 was 17-44 vs top 25 teams- 27.8% record against really good basketball teams...he simply cant win against good teams
Fact- Stansbury coming into 2010 was 51-82 vs top 50 teams- 38.3% record against pretty good basketball teams
Fact- he has over 200 wins, with only 51 against the top 50- he is good at beating ****** teams
Stansbury simply isnt going to win very often against good teams, and having win two straight to get to a Sweet 16, means he is not very likely to ever get there.
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It's always the same shitabout Stansbury:
"If State hadn't gotten screwed over with Texas"
"We had to play a hot Xavier team"
"Butler was really good, they beat Louisville"
"We were tired from the SEC Tourney and had to play in Washington"
Excuse after damn excuse...over and over...
Fact- Stansbury coming into 2010 was 17-44 vs top 25 teams- 27.8% record against really good basketball teams...he simply cant win against good teams
Fact- Stansbury coming into 2010 was 51-82 vs top 50 teams- 38.3% record against pretty good basketball teams
Fact- he has over 200 wins, with only 51 against the top 50- he is good at beating ****** teams
Stansbury simply isnt going to win very often against good teams, and having win two straight to get to a Sweet 16, means he is not very likely to ever get there.
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not making excuses for stansbury. in fact i am in the camp that thinks its time to put up or shutup. however, i'm just pointing out the fact that other than the years that brady had top nba talent were the only years he seemed to do jack.
do you realize what you would say if Stans had 2 NBA players on his team and started 1-6? Teams lose players all the time. Hell Stans has lost player after player over the last few years..he just keeps going to the tourney though.
What was the excuse in 07 when he had Temple, Big Baby and Tasmin?
Brady could get talent.
Just couldn't coach for ****.
What was the excuse in 07 when he had Temple, Big Baby and Tasmin?
Brady could get talent.
Just couldn't coach for ****.
That is all you need to know about the opinion that most in college basketball think of his coaching ability. You did not see anyone beating his door down to hire him after being fired. I am not saying Stansbury is great. I am just saying that Brady is #$@^.
the reason no one has hired him away is because he doesn't want to be hired away and has made that perfectly clear. Not to mention that you have no idea who has or hasn't contacted his agent over the years, nor do I. He just isn't the type to let that play out in the media to work us over for a raise, like many other coaches do.
the success he had- 2 SEC titles, a Sweet 16, and a FF...that is success. Period. Consistent- no, Successful- yes</p>
If Stansbury were to make a FF, he would have the job at State as long as he wanted it. Williams is THE example- look at his 2 seasons after the FF- had he not banged pom pom girls- he would STILL be the head coach at State</p>
If Stansbury were to make a FF, he would have the job at State as long as he wanted it. Williams is THE example- look at his 2 seasons after the FF- had he not banged pom pom girls- he would STILL be the head coach at State</p>
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Your argument holds no water, Stans can not win two games in the NCAA tourney. It's a fact, and is not going to happen. I hope I am wrong, but he just can't beat two quality teams on one days rest outside the SEC. Stans get's out-coached time after time. That's a fact jack..
If you say no, you are lying.
Also, these coaches that have had the "lightning in a bottle" NCAA success, and gone on to get their big job - some have made it ok, but many haven't. Stan Heath is a great example of that. He parlayed one March run into a plum job at Arkansas and managed to fail miserably.
Also, these coaches that have had the "lightning in a bottle" NCAA success, and gone on to get their big job - some have made it ok, but many haven't. Stan Heath is a great example of that. He parlayed one March run into a plum job at Arkansas and managed to fail miserably.
Back to back games against decent teams with a short turnaround is somewhat NCAAish. San Diego is middle of the pack Gozaaga Coast Conference team probably going nowhere but they have proven to be decent with some of their wins.WKU is a strong candidate to be the Sun Belt representative in the NCAAs and they have an SEC win already this year. Flying across country and back makes it even a little more challenging. We've beaten some pretty average to below average teams since the Richmond loss. Winning these two would be one of the most impressive things Stansbury has done recently, plus it gives us great momentum heading into Oxford.