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laughing his *** off..........</p>
 

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laughing his *** off..........</p>
 

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My Lebron over MJ debate is totally 17ed. It was never really in question who was better, but at least before I could make a "case" for Lebron so that I could see people piss themselves in anger.

MJ is way better than Lebron. It's always baffling to me about how much of sports is all in a player's head. Lebron is bigger, faster, and stronger than MJ and even has an equivalent skill set.... yet he wouldn't be able to carry Jordan's jockstrap.

However, I do contend that you have to keep the best EVAR argument to within a respective playing era though.
 

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Miami's offense looked great late in the game. They got several open layups late in the game. Dallas just bombed 3s all night.
 

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People will knock Lebron's decision to go to the Heat and consider his year a failure unless he also wins Finals MVP and gets a Congressional Medal of Honor.<div>
</div><div>And only meatballs (or people looking for publicity) are comparing him to the likes of Jordan. </div><div>
</div><div>I'm not sure what's worse...people comparing him to MJ or people that actually take that argument seriously.</div>
 

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and just looking at the two teams on the floor, Bron is 3rd best player based on performance. I am hoping the mavs win the series but I found myself last night halfway pulling for James to do something amazing in the fourth quarter. Go for 20 and shut everybody up. He has by far the best talent on the floor, but if I was trying to win a championship I would take Wade or Dirk hands down.

Simply put, Lebron is afraid of failure. *****.
 

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D-Wade seems to be the go-to guy at the end of games. You would think James would drive to the hole more to at least get to the free-throw line.He had 2 points in the 4th quarter last night. The triple double doesn't mean a thing when you lose the game... Jordon always wanted and had the ball in his hands at the end of Big games.......
 

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aTotal360 said:
People will knock Lebron's decision to go to the Heat and consider his year a failure unless he also wins Finals MVP and gets a Congressional Medal of Honor.<div>
</div><div>And only meatballs (or people looking for publicity) are comparing him to the likes of Jordan. </div><div>
</div><div>I'm not sure what's worse...people comparing him to MJ or people that actually take that argument seriously.</div>
It is not so much that he went to Miami but the fact that he went there and predicted 5-6 championships and had a huge party with the elevating stage and the fireworks. Also it was only a week ago that LeBron said he was glad to finally be on a team of guys that did not "die in the moment". That was a pretty big slap at his former teammates from a guy that is choking himself.
 

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really? really??<div>
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that people are, at this point, think he's the greatest ever (or even the greatest in the game today) when he isn't even the best player on his team. For the record, I am not a "hater" and like watching Lebron play. I just don't share these opinions.
 

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KurtRambis4 said:
that people are, at this point, think he's the greatest ever (or even the greatest in the game today) when he isn't even the best player on his team. For the record, I am not a "hater" and like watching Lebron play. I just don't share these opinions.

A huge part of being one of the all time greats is mental. Jerry Rice, Walter Peyton, Emmet Smith,and Joe Montana wereno more physically gifted than most NFL players but they were mentally tough and out worked everyone. Jordan, Bird, and Magic were the same way. LeBron, for all of his physical attributes, just does not have IT.
 

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Hanmudog wrote: [/b said:
A huge part of being one of the all time greats is mental. Jerry Rice, Walter Peyton, Emmet Smith,and Joe Montana wereno more physically gifted than most NFL players but they were mentally tough and out worked everyone. Jordan, Bird, and Magic were the same way. LeBron, for all of his physical attributes, just does not have IT.
becausepeople will say "your and idiot".
 

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aTotal360]
Hanmudog wrote: [/b said:
A huge part of being one of the all time greats is mental. Jerry Rice, Walter Peyton, Emmet Smith,and Joe Montana wereno more physically gifted than most NFL players but they were mentally tough and out worked everyone. Jordan, Bird, and Magic were the same way. LeBron, for all of his physical attributes, just does not have IT.
becausepeople will say "your and idiot".

Jeezuz H. That is not what I said. I said that they were not more physically gifted than many NFL players. Therehave been alot of guys that were just as strong and fast as Walter Peyton but no one has had his heart or work ethic and that is what put him over the top.

Some of you can't read for ****.
 

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His point was it wasn't that those players were naturally that much better than other talented players, it's that they took that talent and mixed it with determination, effort, etc and went above and beyond those other talented players. Lebron, thus far, hasn't. He still has time but he better get busy.
 

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I can see your point, but you lumped Sweetness is a group of players that were physically average fortheirrespective position. Payton was way morephysicallygifted than your leading on.
 

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aTotal360]I can see your point, but you lumped Sweetness is a group of players that were physically average fortheirrespective position. Payton was way morephysicallygifted than your leading on.

Yeah you are right. The NFL has never before seen a 5'10 200 lb running back with speed and strength.

I did not"lead on" anything. You are just not grasping what I am saying.
 

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52-11. ELEVEN. That's ridiculous. Lebron has scored 4 or less in the 4th qtr in four of the five finals games. I realize that lebron defers to wade often, and he should sometimes, but he has disappeared in clutch time of this series on BOTH ends of the floor.
 

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lawdawg02 said:
52-11. ELEVEN. That's ridiculous. Lebron has scored 4 or less in the 4th qtr in four of the five finals games. I realize that lebron defers to wade often, and he should sometimes, but he has disappeared in clutch time of this series on BOTH ends of the floor.
In the last two games, Jason Terry has outscored LeBron 16-2 in the fourth quarter. Even Dallas' number two option is outscoring him.
 

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As you should know Lebron is 26 also. MJ also played at North Car for Dean Smith, one of the best all time coaches. I think its safe to say at 26 MJ was more disciplined and polished than Lebron. Lebron is a freakier athlete. This debate over MJ or Lebron is very skewed. At the same age (26) Lebron has had a better career than MJ. For the long haul we should revisit this in 10 years.
 

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and nothing I've seen from "The King" has shown me he'll ever be in MJ's class when it's nut-cuttin' time.
 

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lebron seems to get worse every year
 

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Sure, you could say that he chokes when the pressure is on, but maybe he just gets tired while earning a TRIPLE DOUBLE in almost 46 minutes of playing time. He played considerably more than anyone else on either team.
 

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Did you even see MJ win a NBA championship? They don't give out rings for triple doubles in the NBA...
 

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But every time Dirk gets to the line, hits a layup, or drains a jumper in the 4th it just kills anything Miami has going. You have time to recover from the other team's runs in the first three quarters. The margin for error is eliminated in the fourth. Just two buckets from LeBron would have changed what Dallas had to do in the last seven minutes. Heck, even if he would have just hit that wide open three, it's a different game.

This is simply a Dirk vs Dywane series. Dirk has no drama behind him, Dywane does.
 

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I'm only 27, so I was fairly young during MJ's glory years. I'm just arguing against the "4th quarter choke" stuff. The guy had played like ten more minutes than anybody in the game. He played what would be equivalent to a full college game plus an overtime. Even superstars get tired. If the guy got a triple double, he did his part. Miami got bombed with threes last night.
 

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Not only does Lebron not have MJ's "it" factor, drive, determination, and competitiveness, but it also makes me laugh when people say Lebron is athletically superior to MJ and still have an "equivalent skill set."<div>
</div><div>Lebron is bigger, stronger, and more physical than MJ, but his basketball skill set isn't close. His quickness isn't where MJ's was, his shot isn't as consistent as MJ's was (yet), the variety of ways he can score in the half court setting isn't there yet, and on and on. Dwade gets none of the hype that Lebron does, yet he's the go to guy and the guy that can create his own shot in half court oriented playoff games when defense is really played. </div>
 

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Am I the only one that is infuriated by the spelling of Dwyane Wade's name?
 

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he should be ready to go in the 4th, especially since most of these games are coming down to the 4th.
 

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disagree with this assertion completely.
 

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Lebron isn't even the best basketball player on his team.
 

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But the fact that his coach is riding him so heavily demonstrates his value and necessity to the team.
 

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If Lebron scores 35+ the next 2 games and both are wins does the nation get back on his sack and crown him the "next coming" saying he battled adversity etc... All this is very possible