If you want good looking girls at your university, you damn well better have a robust Greek system. Keep in mind that good looking women make the world go round.
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The cost is only about $300 a month more than food when you put a pencil to it. 900 girls based on out number of sororities is ok but the other schools have 5-8 more sororities per school. Don't forget these are the numbers who pledged, there may have been 1300 who went out and were dropped or cut. To each his own but it's a great in the long run for those members and does help in business.
I believe it's fat bottomed girls that make the world go round. No stipulation about good looking women, but I imagine there's somewhat of a correlation
Statements like this always make me laugh. They often come from people unwilling to consider another perspective—while at the same time being members of organizations like the country club, Rotary, or men’s circle.... As the old saying goes, you don’t go to Harvard just for the education—you go for the connections. Greek life works the same way. My first job out of college came through a Greek connection, and the first loan I secured to start my first business did as well. If you want to understand its importance, just ask Mark Keenum. He knows it’s a driver—not the driver, but certainly a driver.
I don’t know how I would quantify “important”. I was independent and used Greek friends for party access occasionally. My kids were all Greek and have some genuine lifelong friends and job connections from it that have and will probably continue to pay dividends for them. Great value for them since I paid for it all. Me not being Greek had no discernible difference on my life outcomes.
My wife is still active with the sorority chapter or committee.... anyways... what she told me .
OM had 2400 girls rush. 20%! Are Mississippians.
State had 1200 rush and approximately 80% are Mississippians.
OM caps pledge classes at around 250. State caps pledge classes around 90-100. I have no idea how you would know everyone in your pledge classes much more the whole sorority.
At State, State has many rushees drop after the "top houses" make their cuts. For whatever reason many kids at State want the top houses or nothing at all.
OM has a few more houses than State. But State is finally building AXO a house. So that should help them grow their chapter.
As for what that means for the university, employees on campus know better than me. But OM is building a huge reputation and gaining students from all across the southeast because of their Greek system. As another poster said, OM is featured on a reality show on lifetime right now for their Greek system.
OM had 2400 girls rush. 20%! Are Mississippians.
State had 1200 rush and approximately 80% are Mississippians.
OM caps pledge classes at around 250. State caps pledge classes around 90-100. I have no idea how you would know everyone in your pledge classes much more the whole sorority.
At State, State has many rushees drop after the "top houses" make their cuts. For whatever reason many kids at State want the top houses or nothing at all.
OM has a few more houses than State. But State is finally building AXO a house. So that should help them grow their chapter.
As for what that means for the university, employees on campus know better than me. But OM is building a huge reputation and gaining students from all across the southeast because of their Greek system. As another poster said, OM is featured on a reality show on lifetime right now for their Greek system.
Alabama Rush has taken over social media the past few years and Ole Miss hasn't been far behind. There's a new documentary on sorority rush this fall - four girls have been featured so far. Auburn, South Carolina and two from Ole Miss.
There are a lot of out of state girls rushing at Ole Miss - 80% seems high but its a lot. Ole Miss chapters are around 500 while State hovers around 200-250. There's a lot of girls that leave Ole Miss after their first year. Ole Miss has added two sororities in the past decade. They probably need to add two more. Those houses are getting too big to manage properly.
I would consider this a negative, but I bet it will get some views, and provide us with some very Ole Miss stuff to mock...
The first year sorority dropout rate at OM is real and, from what I have heard from those on the inside, significant.
The lifestyle, the expense, and the crippling emotional trauma.
Would be curious to see a comparison with State and other SEC schools.
The lifestyle, the expense, and the crippling emotional trauma.
Would be curious to see a comparison with State and other SEC schools.
Ive watched the first two episodes. Ole Miss comes off very well in this series. Ole Miss is well thought of and Oxford is nicely highlighted. The only negative thing covers us as well - a wealthy mom from Florida says "I don't want her (my daughter) marrying some guy from Mississippi"
The girl from Madison that was featured has helped the stereotype of Mississippi. Great family, beautiful house. Both the Ole Miss girls were knockouts as well.
Auburn and South Carolina are the only two others featured so far. Alabama comes up next week. The Auburn girl was a big girl but sweet, and the South Carolina girl was the "country girl" that we all know from small town Mississippi.
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Agreed.
My wife is an officer for a local alumni chapter. The numbers are real, she will find tomorrow what her sorority bid numbers are for OM but they are expecting 250 bids and maybe 50 will be Mississippians... but she said her sorority at State gave 97 bids and 76 are from Mississippi and 7 Memphis. Remainder is various out of state.
Most OM alumni if they are being honest are concerned about the OOS numbers at OM. The general thought is Oxford and the Greek system have attracted so many wealthy OOS, that most Mississippians are priced out of Oxford. Thus their numbers.
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That makes more sense. It's a chapter. There are a couple of houses that are the reverse. OOS girls can't get into a couple of houses. The overall number my wife heard this year is 55-45 OOS. Still high.
My daughter is going through now and my wife is the advisor for one of the UM chapters.....the number is around 2200 and is no where near 80%.....closer to 50%, although that is still high in my view....and it is a real thing for girls packing up and leaving for not getting their cuts....its a **** show to be honest....this morning was the nut cruncher.....tomorrow is bid day.....lots of girls will be packing up and headed home from Ole miss this year....woof....if i had a second daughter, she would go to school in alaska....the horror stories are real.
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Not much difference between paying dues to a fraternity and paying tuition to a university. You sure you didn’t spend any money to be a part of something where you made friends?
It wasn't such a big deal when I was at State. At Wake Forest, Greek Life is huge. Depends on the type and size of the school, I guess.
I didn't join a frat at State - went to a couple of parties with friends - had a good time but kept my dignity and money when they asked if I wanted to rush.
Girls' rush is ridiculous and pretty cut throat. It's who you know in a lot of cases. Guys have it much easier.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
But, if you wanted to wear a bowtie, blazer, and pink shorts to a football game, why didn't you just go to Ole Miss?
Funny. I graduated from State, but never paid a dime. Scholarships are a beautiful thing.
You've asked a very subjective question. A friend from UPig told me this story. The fraternities and sororities went to the President and asked if the university could determine what percentage of donations to the school came from former members of these groups. The answer was 60%. So about 30% of former students donated 60% of the $$$. There's the real answer.
It's about 50% at State for 15%.
It goes back to the other study. Those involved in Greek life typically earn 30% more over their lifetime. Just thinking through it, I've had five professional jobs since graduation. 4 out of the 5, my direct boss was involved in Greek life. In the fifth, my bosses' boss was involved.
You paid. You just used someone else’s money. Funny how a scholarship guy doesn’t get that. Maybe you just didn’t make any friends and that’s what you meant? I’d hate that for you. I hope it took money for you to be a part of State and you made friends…
$395/month? $4,000 per semester dues for frat I was in at Alabama in 2008-2009
The Greek system is an important recruitment tool for out of state students therefore out of state money.