if its a rivalry, people outside of LSU and Ole Miss will recognize it just like they do GA/AU and TN/Bama. You shouldn't have to justify, your Student Body president nor LSU's should have to justify it. Hell, the fact that someone went out of their way to make a trophy at this stage in the game screams that no one recognizes this as a rivarly.
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Bama fans might not consider us a rival. However, they are a rival. We are way down their list but still. 90 miles apart, played 98 times, battled over many recruits, many fans of both teams in either state. Sherrill and Croom's ties to each school. The only ingredient missing is a few State victories and that has happen a few times in the last 12 years. It has the potential to be a great rivalry if we could continue to beat them......certainly not like AU....but a good one none the less. 92, 94, and 99, it was as intense as most Egg Bowls.
With that said though, every rival has one opponent that cares more than the other. Tennessee at one time considered UF to be their bigger rival but I doubt Spurrier and UF felt the same. Texas considers OU to be the bigger rival. A&M considers Texas to be the bigger rivalry. Georgia-Florida, Georgia-GeorgiaTech....Florida-Georgia, Florida-FSU...etc.
With that said though, every rival has one opponent that cares more than the other. Tennessee at one time considered UF to be their bigger rival but I doubt Spurrier and UF felt the same. Texas considers OU to be the bigger rival. A&M considers Texas to be the bigger rivalry. Georgia-Florida, Georgia-GeorgiaTech....Florida-Georgia, Florida-FSU...etc.
Exactly. In the last 11 games, LSU leads 7-4. However, during that period, 5 of the 11 games were decided by one score or fewer. Of the 6 games that were decided by more than one score, 3 were won by Ole Miss and 3 by LSU.
Yes, we've lost 6 straight, but Auburn has also beaten Alabama 6 straight. The games and the series have been fairly competitive in comparison to most series. The way some of you talk, you make it sound like OM-LSU has been more like Vandy-UT or Kentucky-UT. That's just not reality.
By the way, most of us realize that we are not an upper tier SEC team. However, that doesn't mean we can't have a rivalry game with an upper tier SEC team.
Yes, we've lost 6 straight, but Auburn has also beaten Alabama 6 straight. The games and the series have been fairly competitive in comparison to most series. The way some of you talk, you make it sound like OM-LSU has been more like Vandy-UT or Kentucky-UT. That's just not reality.
By the way, most of us realize that we are not an upper tier SEC team. However, that doesn't mean we can't have a rivalry game with an upper tier SEC team.
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The following rivalries have been 'named' in the last dozen years:
Sawhorse Dollar
The War on I-4
River City Trophy
Michigan MAC Trophy
THE GOLDEN BOOT (LSU/ARK)
The Bones
The Milk Can
Black Diamond
Commonwealth Cup
Florida Cup
Governor's Cup
Heartland Trophy
Ireland Trophy
Jefferson-Eppes Trophy
Battle for the Golden Horseshoe
Book of Knowledge
The Hammer
Backyard Brawl Trophy
Sawhorse Dollar
The War on I-4
River City Trophy
Michigan MAC Trophy
THE GOLDEN BOOT (LSU/ARK)
The Bones
The Milk Can
Black Diamond
Commonwealth Cup
Florida Cup
Governor's Cup
Heartland Trophy
Ireland Trophy
Jefferson-Eppes Trophy
Battle for the Golden Horseshoe
Book of Knowledge
The Hammer
Backyard Brawl Trophy
who plays in any of those. The Golden Boot just furthers my point. They made a trophy so that they could concoct a rivalry b/c neither team has one in the conference.
I do recognize the backyard brawl...and they needed to name it b/c I would never have known pitt and WV was a rivalry.
And how many on that list have been named over the last 2 days?
I do recognize the backyard brawl...and they needed to name it b/c I would never have known pitt and WV was a rivalry.
And how many on that list have been named over the last 2 days?
has been the backyard brawl for a while. maybe they just added the trophy recently.
as for the others, i think the commonwealth cup is louisville-uk. the jefferson-eppes is florida state and virginia (or maybe maryland?). ireland has to be notre dame and someone. the battle for the golden horseshoe should be moved to tunica, or maybe shreveport. </p>
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seriously, book of knowledge? that's gotta be ivy league. florida cup is probably FIU and FAU, who no one cares about (or maybe UCF and USF). </p>
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i think your list only furthers 8Dog's point. you can call it what you want, but that alone won't make it a rivalry that other people will recognize.</p>
as for the others, i think the commonwealth cup is louisville-uk. the jefferson-eppes is florida state and virginia (or maybe maryland?). ireland has to be notre dame and someone. the battle for the golden horseshoe should be moved to tunica, or maybe shreveport. </p>
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seriously, book of knowledge? that's gotta be ivy league. florida cup is probably FIU and FAU, who no one cares about (or maybe UCF and USF). </p>
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i think your list only furthers 8Dog's point. you can call it what you want, but that alone won't make it a rivalry that other people will recognize.</p>
First of all, the dude that named all those recently named rivalries, needs to take the Governor's Cup because we all know that was the Mayor's Trophy long before it became the Governor's Cup. I also find it funny that an Ole Miss fan would point that out as a "new" trophy when they were calling the Mayor's Trophy the Governor's Cup at least seven years before the name was changed.
And I thought all of this Ole Miss/LSU BS was about LSU being the bigger rival for Ole Miss. That's ludicrous- no matter whether their was a trophy made for the game or not. And hell, I didn't know Louisiana even had magnolias. All I've ever seen is swamp or pine trees, but whatever.
And if LSU wins the trophy, does anyone really think that they are going to parade it around Tiger Stadium? However, if Ole Miss wins, the whole team will be acting like they won the Super Bowl.
If MSU/Bama started a trophy for their game, it would be just as ridiculous, and should be started with the premise of mocking the "Magnolia Bowl"- I thought that was name of the Mississippi Junior College Championship Game.
And I thought all of this Ole Miss/LSU BS was about LSU being the bigger rival for Ole Miss. That's ludicrous- no matter whether their was a trophy made for the game or not. And hell, I didn't know Louisiana even had magnolias. All I've ever seen is swamp or pine trees, but whatever.
And if LSU wins the trophy, does anyone really think that they are going to parade it around Tiger Stadium? However, if Ole Miss wins, the whole team will be acting like they won the Super Bowl.
If MSU/Bama started a trophy for their game, it would be just as ridiculous, and should be started with the premise of mocking the "Magnolia Bowl"- I thought that was name of the Mississippi Junior College Championship Game.
fits in well with your list
Sawhorse Dollar: More of a bet than a trophy between Dartmouth and Princeton who have played for The Governor's Cup years before the Sawhorse Dollar
War on I-4: UCF and USF. This great rivalry has been going on for 3 years. 2008 will be the last year as USF wants better rivals than UCF.
River City Trophy: Trophy to create a rivalry in the Big East between Cincinnati and Pitt after the Bearcats joined the Big East.
Michigan Mac: Actually a rivalry between 3 schools. Go figure.
Golden Boot: Actually more than 12 years old. Created in hopes of making LSU and Arkansas rivals when Arkansas joined the SEC.
The Bones: Played between Memphis and UAB. Started shortly after UAB joined CUSA.
Milk Can: Boise St and Fresno St. Created by dairy producers in California and Idaho to boost milk sales.
Black Diamond: This one only lasted a few years as Va Tech and West Virginia quit playing in 2005.
Commonwealth Cup - Virginia and Virginia Tech. This actually looks legetimate. The schools didn't start playing anually until 1970. So after about 30 games, I would say this is a natural progression to create a trophy.
Florida Cup: Another 3 school trophy. Only awarded when Miami/Florida/Florida St all play each other int he same year. Hasn't been awarded in a few years.
Governor's Cup: Created after an almost 50 year hiatus in games between Louisville and Kentucky
Heartland Trophy: This one that makes no sense. Iowa and Wisconsin. I know they are both in the same conference, but are they really rivals?
Ireland Trophy: Notre Dame and Boston Collge. Created when these 2 schools began a 10 year contract.
Jefferson-Eppes: This was created 2 years following ACC expansion when FSU and Virginia started playing each other.
Golden Horshoe: Cal Poly and UC Davis. UC Davis also has a rivaly tropthy with UC Sacremento
Book of Knowledge: Cameron College and Macalestar College. Enough said
The Hammer: Augsburg College and Hamlin College. wtf?
Backyard Brawl: The nickname for the rivalry between Pitt and West Virginia extends decades and not in the last 12 years.
I'm actually kind of glad that LSU and Ole Miss have decided to join this illustrous group of "rivaly games".
Sawhorse Dollar: More of a bet than a trophy between Dartmouth and Princeton who have played for The Governor's Cup years before the Sawhorse Dollar
War on I-4: UCF and USF. This great rivalry has been going on for 3 years. 2008 will be the last year as USF wants better rivals than UCF.
River City Trophy: Trophy to create a rivalry in the Big East between Cincinnati and Pitt after the Bearcats joined the Big East.
Michigan Mac: Actually a rivalry between 3 schools. Go figure.
Golden Boot: Actually more than 12 years old. Created in hopes of making LSU and Arkansas rivals when Arkansas joined the SEC.
The Bones: Played between Memphis and UAB. Started shortly after UAB joined CUSA.
Milk Can: Boise St and Fresno St. Created by dairy producers in California and Idaho to boost milk sales.
Black Diamond: This one only lasted a few years as Va Tech and West Virginia quit playing in 2005.
Commonwealth Cup - Virginia and Virginia Tech. This actually looks legetimate. The schools didn't start playing anually until 1970. So after about 30 games, I would say this is a natural progression to create a trophy.
Florida Cup: Another 3 school trophy. Only awarded when Miami/Florida/Florida St all play each other int he same year. Hasn't been awarded in a few years.
Governor's Cup: Created after an almost 50 year hiatus in games between Louisville and Kentucky
Heartland Trophy: This one that makes no sense. Iowa and Wisconsin. I know they are both in the same conference, but are they really rivals?
Ireland Trophy: Notre Dame and Boston Collge. Created when these 2 schools began a 10 year contract.
Jefferson-Eppes: This was created 2 years following ACC expansion when FSU and Virginia started playing each other.
Golden Horshoe: Cal Poly and UC Davis. UC Davis also has a rivaly tropthy with UC Sacremento
Book of Knowledge: Cameron College and Macalestar College. Enough said
The Hammer: Augsburg College and Hamlin College. wtf?
Backyard Brawl: The nickname for the rivalry between Pitt and West Virginia extends decades and not in the last 12 years.
I'm actually kind of glad that LSU and Ole Miss have decided to join this illustrous group of "rivaly games".
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I thought the OM creed was to go back before the time of leather helmets?
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We're not talking baseball.
The Governor's Cup and/or trophy is for Brown vs Rhode Island, Dartmouth vs Princeton, Kentucky vs Louisville, Kansas vs Kansas State and Florida vs Florida State.</p>
This is actually not a bad move on LSU's part. If you are going to get to manufacture your own rivalry, why not pick one that you are going to win 9 out of 10 times. This way when the bowl selection committees are watch the game late in the season and the graphic pops up to show that LSU has an all time record of 11-1 in the Magnolia Bowl, it will give them some positive pub. It is kind of like picking a homecoming opponent. An easy win to satisfy the Alumni.
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As I said, y'all need to know your role. Mississippi Rebels. Conference also-ran. "Runts" is another moniker, if I recall.
In football, State, Mississippi, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky will always bring up the rear. Always. Very few break out seasons ever, maybe never.
Ark and South Carolina generally round out the football lower echelon.
LSU-Mississippi is not a football rivalry. Know your role, Mississippi fan. Cling to endless internet polls ranking the Grove as the best place to tailgate. Summon up the ghost of Bruiser Kinard. Pine for the days of white-only athletes and unlimited scholarships. Mississippi's program is a relic. It's like a nicely restored 64 Rambler. Runs good. Interesting. Quaint. Fun to look at and show off. But fickle, unreliable, needs constant attention, not going the distance.
Know your role, Mississippi fan.
In football, State, Mississippi, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky will always bring up the rear. Always. Very few break out seasons ever, maybe never.
Ark and South Carolina generally round out the football lower echelon.
LSU-Mississippi is not a football rivalry. Know your role, Mississippi fan. Cling to endless internet polls ranking the Grove as the best place to tailgate. Summon up the ghost of Bruiser Kinard. Pine for the days of white-only athletes and unlimited scholarships. Mississippi's program is a relic. It's like a nicely restored 64 Rambler. Runs good. Interesting. Quaint. Fun to look at and show off. But fickle, unreliable, needs constant attention, not going the distance.
Know your role, Mississippi fan.
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I like the name Mississippi Rebels.
It shows we rule the state. Which if I say so myself has been true throughout history.
It shows we rule the state. Which if I say so myself has been true throughout history.
want to consider shutting it down for the evening and getting a fresh start tomorrow.
By saying "we rule the state," I take it you're alleging supremacy over your rival, aren't you?
Yes, you already know your role, Mississippi fan. I didn't have to tell you.
By saying "we rule the state," I take it you're alleging supremacy over your rival, aren't you?
Yes, you already know your role, Mississippi fan. I didn't have to tell you.
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Exactly.....I thought it was funny after the other day.
I guess I should have requested it get locked immediately.
I guess I should have requested it get locked immediately.
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