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How many damn rivalries can one school have? I will say this, they have a better shot at Ark people taking the "rivalry" serious than they do with LSU. Come on Ole Miss, do you really believe that LSU fans consider yall' a rival? Seriously.....
Apparently the Ole Miss v. Ark game is a "rivalry game" on the new NCAA football. Silly Ole Miss fans.
It's not the Reb fans, it's the fans of the Swine. The Pigs hated Nutt when he coached there and hate him even more for leaving. When OM goes over there this year, it will be a zoo. Expect planes with banners, signs like at a WWE event, and birds flying. They are already talking about it. Also, they are ready to run a radio host out of state on a rail for giving Nutt a radio interview recently.
Also, speaking of LSU and rivals. I don't know who LSU's rival is but the Pigs want to be their rival as well. So, that is something else they can share with OM. Evidently some of the staff at the UofArk wasn't happy with the condition of the "Boot" trophy after getting it back from LSU this year. Rumor is LSU keeps it in a closet and could care less. While, Arkansas has a special spot in the trophy case for it.
Also, speaking of LSU and rivals. I don't know who LSU's rival is but the Pigs want to be their rival as well. So, that is something else they can share with OM. Evidently some of the staff at the UofArk wasn't happy with the condition of the "Boot" trophy after getting it back from LSU this year. Rumor is LSU keeps it in a closet and could care less. While, Arkansas has a special spot in the trophy case for it.
Their two traditional rivals have been Mississippi and Tulane. Tulane isn't so much a rivalry game any more. LSU considers other schools, like Bama and Florida, to be rivals, but those can't be considered rivalry games since LSU is at least 3rd on the list of rivals for both of those schools.
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Yes, and there really is no question. Their student government apparently considered it enough of a rivalry to come to our student government proposing the idea of naming the game.
I know this is a hard concept for you, but it's possible for a team to have more than one rivalry.
Alabama considers both UT and Auburn to be rivalry games. UT considers Alabama and Florida to be rivalry games, though UK and Vandy are their official rivalry games. Texas has a rivalry with Oklahoma and Texas A&M. Oklahoma has both Texas and Oklahoma State. Kansas has both Missouri and Kansas State. Nebraska considers both Oklahoma and Colorado to be rivals. Florida has both Florida State and Tennessee. Florida State has Florida and Miami. UNC has Duke and NC State. You could go on and on.
Like it or not, LSU fans consider Ole Miss to be a rivalry game, and we consider it to be a rivalry game as well. The rivalry may not carry as much bearing as it used to, but it still carries a lot of weight with the fanbases. We also consider MSU to be a rivalry and a bigger one at that. Just out of curiosity, what makes you say that about LSU?
I can't remember the name but some knock-off zaxby's type place.. they have all the SEC helmets up on the wall and I guess have attempted to line them up with "rivalries" ... They go like this...
UF - UT
Vandy - UK
UGA - USC
Ole Miss - LSU
Alabama - AuB
and you guessed it... MSU - ARK
what the hell ?
Wouldn't it had made more sense to put... ALA-AUB, UF-UGA, UM-MSU, Vandy-UT, USC-UK, LSU-ARK ..... but I guess every way has it's flaws.
UF - UT
Vandy - UK
UGA - USC
Ole Miss - LSU
Alabama - AuB
and you guessed it... MSU - ARK
what the hell ?
Wouldn't it had made more sense to put... ALA-AUB, UF-UGA, UM-MSU, Vandy-UT, USC-UK, LSU-ARK ..... but I guess every way has it's flaws.
Why is it so important to some state fans to try to downplay the Ole Miss/Lsu rivalry? I've never understood that.
It's our idiot fans reacting to the idiot Ole Miss fans who try to downplay your rivalry with us by saying things like, "We don't even really care about State; LSU is our real rival, anyway."
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that every time you post, the entire premise of the thread goes away and everyone just reverts to busting your balls? Nobody actually gives a **** about Ole Miss/LSU.
It never ceases to amaze me how many MSU people ignore the obvious fact that LSU and Mississippi are rivals. One thing is obvious, these people have never spent much time in Baton Rouge. I have. And I know that they don't like the Rebels down there.
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with a little more history. Can't deny they've had some good games. Ole Miss fans definitely hate LSU folks worse than the other way around. I mean, ****, let them have their rivalry, it'll get them all fired up and ready for a letdown the following week when they play us.
Alabama fans have never really given a **** about MSU. It's become a pretty good basketball rivalry in the past several years, but Bama fans really only care about football. And if football, we're not much more than an annoyance to them (in their minds), and not even that until the last 12 years.
Again I say, go down to Baton Rouge. Talk to some LSU fans and ask them how they feel about Mississippi. If you do that, you'll know that LSU-UM is a true rivalry game. It's not as big as MSU-UM by any stretch of the imagination, but it's pretty big for both schools.
Again I say, go down to Baton Rouge. Talk to some LSU fans and ask them how they feel about Mississippi. If you do that, you'll know that LSU-UM is a true rivalry game. It's not as big as MSU-UM by any stretch of the imagination, but it's pretty big for both schools.
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so I won't pretend to know.
I just thought that LSU had pretty much adopted Arkansas as their chief rival because of the boot, and they play on rivalry weekend. I know you can have more than one rivalry and all, but I've just never seen the LSU/UM game mean anything outside of 2003, and then it was only because it was deciding the West.
I just thought that LSU had pretty much adopted Arkansas as their chief rival because of the boot, and they play on rivalry weekend. I know you can have more than one rivalry and all, but I've just never seen the LSU/UM game mean anything outside of 2003, and then it was only because it was deciding the West.
In order for a rivalry to be warented the other team has to occasionally beat the other team. Not the case here.
And to everyone saying "go to LSU, they hate Ole Miss people," I got news for you, everyone hates Ole Miss people except other Ole Miss people.
And to those of you saying "look at Oxford after LSU leaves town," I got news for you also, that happens everywhere. Just ask any fan from any school and the worst fans in the SEC are unanimously LSU fans.
You want to call it a rivalry, fine. A bunch of student government types want to call it a rivalry, fine. But the average coon *** couldn't point Oxford out on a map.
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Wait until Saban Bowl rolls around and tell me what you think.
I really think "biggest game" and rivalry are two separate things. There have been years when the MSU game wasn't the biggest game of the year for us. There have been years for Auburn when the Alabama game might not have been as big for them as the LSU game or some other game. There have been plenty of years for Texas when Texas A&M wasn't the biggest game on the schedule for them.
Those types of things change every year, but that doesn't mean that the game still isn't a rivalry game. West Virginia last year played its biggest games against teams like Louisville, Rutgers, etc. Pittsburgh was not their biggest game of the year last year, but it was still a rivalry game, Partly because it wasn't WVU's biggest game of the year, they ended up losing that game. I'd argue that UCLA probably wasn't USC's biggest game of the year last year, but it was still a rivalry game.
We're obviously not LSU's biggest game of the year most years, but that doesn't eliminate the rivalry.
Those types of things change every year, but that doesn't mean that the game still isn't a rivalry game. West Virginia last year played its biggest games against teams like Louisville, Rutgers, etc. Pittsburgh was not their biggest game of the year last year, but it was still a rivalry game, Partly because it wasn't WVU's biggest game of the year, they ended up losing that game. I'd argue that UCLA probably wasn't USC's biggest game of the year last year, but it was still a rivalry game.
We're obviously not LSU's biggest game of the year most years, but that doesn't eliminate the rivalry.
the easy way to resolve this issue is for someone to go to an LSU message board and post the following poll:
Who is LSU's biggest rival?
Ole Miss
Tulane
Auburn
Alabama
Arkansas
Mississippi State
Florida
The teams listed are LSU's permanent SEC opponents plus Tulane. Don't post anything else but the poll question and the choices. Then see what happens. You got access, dawgstudent? If so you want to post the poll?
Who is LSU's biggest rival?
Ole Miss
Tulane
Auburn
Alabama
Arkansas
Mississippi State
Florida
The teams listed are LSU's permanent SEC opponents plus Tulane. Don't post anything else but the poll question and the choices. Then see what happens. You got access, dawgstudent? If so you want to post the poll?
The only valid way to present that poll would be a series of runoff polls or Olympic-style voting. If you posted that poll in that format, Ole Miss would almost certainly win because they would dominate among those who judge the rivalry based on some sort of historical perspective while those who judge a rivalry on its impact on conference standings will split their votes among Alabama, Auburn, Florida, and Arkansas.
Ole Miss may well be their biggest rival, but the poll you propose won't answer the question because it is methodologically flawed.
Ole Miss may well be their biggest rival, but the poll you propose won't answer the question because it is methodologically flawed.
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</p>Damn patdog that must be a tough pill to swallow. What say you now Rebelbruiser?
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LSU leads the all-time series against Ole Miss 55-37-4 (winning pct. .598).
Ole Miss leads the all-time series against MSU 59-39-6 (winning pct. .602).
Yes, they've beaten us 6 times in a row, but 4 of those games were decided by a FG or less, and right before this recent string, we had beaten them 4 out of 5 times, including 3 straight in Baton Rouge.
For further comparisons in number of wins:
Last 10 years:
LSU 7, OM 3
OM 5, MSU 5
Last 20 years:
LSU 13, OM 7
OM 11, MSU 9
Last 30 years:
LSU 20, OM 9, Tie 1
OM 18, MSU 12
Point being, our series with LSU has been more competitive than you probably thought, and on top of that, I really don't think the competitiveness of a rivalry is all that important to whether or not a rivalry exists. For another example, I think everyone would agree that Texas and Texas A&M are traditional rivals, yet Texas leads the overall series 73-36-5.
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