This should make some of you happy....PSU issues a hiring freeze until next summer...

[psuro]

....downside is first they have to hire an Executive Vice President of Hiring Freeze for the Athletic Department.....

but after that....it's a go

Penn State implements hiring freeze through at least next summer. Here’s what we know

PSU is trying to balance its budget after operating at a $150 million deficit in the 2021-2022 academic year.

www.yahoo.com

 

[PSUFTG]

....downside is first they have to hire an Executive Vice President of Hiring Freeze for the Athletic Department.....

but after that....it's a go

Penn State implements hiring freeze through at least next summer. Here’s what we know

PSU is trying to balance its budget after operating at a $150 million deficit in the 2021-2022 academic year.

www.yahoo.com

As some here may recall, I have been an advocate for a targeted Administrative Hiring freeze for many years.
To be clear, that is NOT what this recent announcement is.

What I advocated for, in an article written back in 2018, was a five-step plan:


"1) Mandated 4-year freeze on Tuition and other Mandatory Fees charged to students.
2) Immediate Wage Freeze on all Administrative positions with salaries of over $150,000.

And, until tuition for Pennsylvania Residents is less than or equal to 110% of the average in-state tuition for all Public Big Ten Universities
and, Enrollment of Undergrads at Penn State University Park is composed of at least 75% In-State Students.

3) No creation of New Administrative Positions
4) No filling of open Administrative Positions, without approved, quantitative justification wrt Penn State’s Educational and Research Missions
(ie, positions cannot be filled unless it can be clearly demonstrated that the function provides a positive net economic benefit).
5) All Administrative positions with salaries over $200,000 will have salaries reduced by 5% every year, until those criteria are met."

I think such measures, back in 2018, would have gone a long way in preventing us from being in the pickle we now find ourselves.
I will be advocating for the types of procedures I outlined in 2018. Time will tell.

 

[BobPSU92]

....downside is first they have to hire an Executive Vice President of Hiring Freeze for the Athletic Department.....

but after that....it's a go

Penn State implements hiring freeze through at least next summer. Here’s what we know

PSU is trying to balance its budget after operating at a $150 million deficit in the 2021-2022 academic year.

www.yahoo.com

One needs to hire an administrative staff to ensure there are no hires.

 

[BobPSU92]

....downside is first they have to hire an Executive Vice President of Hiring Freeze for the Athletic Department.....

but after that....it's a go

Penn State implements hiring freeze through at least next summer. Here’s what we know

PSU is trying to balance its budget after operating at a $150 million deficit in the 2021-2022 academic year.

www.yahoo.com

From the article:

”The “temporary strategic hiring freeze,” as university spokesperson Wyatt DuBois characterized it, is not a complete freeze as critical positions — such as those linked to safety, student success and compliance — will continue to be filled. The freeze also does not include graduate assistantships or positions that are fully funded by external grants or contracts.”

Is it doo-bwa or doo-boys?

 

[UncleRoyBiggins]

....downside is first they have to hire an Executive Vice President of Hiring Freeze for the Athletic Department.....

but after that....it's a go

Penn State implements hiring freeze through at least next summer. Here’s what we know

PSU is trying to balance its budget after operating at a $150 million deficit in the 2021-2022 academic year.

www.yahoo.com

Neeli's got balls.

 

[PSUJam]

Hiring Freeze? The Braves fans are gonna be pissed!

 

[TiogaLion]

I don't think they get it; from the article linked above:

"is not a complete freeze as critical positions — such as those linked to safety, student success and compliance — will continue to be filled."

Edit: Bob beat me to it.

 

[psuro]

As some here may recall, I have been an advocate for a targeted Administrative Hiring freeze for many years.
To be clear, that is NOT what this recent announcement is.

Oh, I agree. But as some would say...."it's a start"....

I still believe it would be a good measure to reduce the number of commonwealth campuses. More than a few serve less than 1,000 students. And a few of those are physically close enough to each other where it would make sense to combine them

Scranton and Wilkes Barre about 45 minutes from each other
Beaver and New Kensington are about 1 hour 10 minutes from each other
Allegheny and New Kensington are about 45 minutes from each other
Hazleton and Scranton - about 45 minutes from each other
Hazleton and Wilkes Barre - about 45 minutes from each other

I can't imagine what it costs to have to maintain brick and mortar for 300-500 college students. But it cannot be a good ROI.

 

[psuro]

From the article:

”The “temporary strategic hiring freeze,” as university spokesperson Wyatt DuBois characterized it, is not a complete freeze as critical positions — such as those linked to safety, student success and compliance — will continue to be filled. The freeze also does not include graduate assistantships or positions that are fully funded by external grants or contracts.”

Is it doo-bwa or doo-boys?

Is it Wy - ott? or Why- at?

 

[BobPSU92]

Neeli's got balls.

A hiring freeze doesn’t sound like a product of barren’s consulting. PSU doesn’t seem to be getting their money’s worth ($900k).

 

[BobPSU92]

Is it Wy - ott? or Why- at?

Wy-it n’at.

 

[PSU12046]

From the article:

”The “temporary strategic hiring freeze,” as university spokesperson Wyatt DuBois characterized it, is not a complete freeze as critical positions — such as those linked to safety, student success and compliance — will continue to be filled. The freeze also does not include graduate assistantships or positions that are fully funded by external grants or contracts.”

Is it doo-bwa or doo-boys?

Dubai

 

[Woodpecker]

such as those linked to safety, student success and compliance

So I apparently have a different idea of what a university is. What positions DON'T impact student success?

 

[BobPSU92]

So I apparently have a different idea of what a university is. What positions DON'T impact student success?

None of them do. PSU students laugh at success.

 

[PSU12046]

As some here may recall, I have been an advocate for a targeted Administrative Hiring freeze for many years.
To be clear, that is NOT what this recent announcement is.

What I advocated for, in an article written back in 2018, was a five-step plan:


"1) Mandated 4-year freeze on Tuition and other Mandatory Fees charged to students.
2) Immediate Wage Freeze on all Administrative positions with salaries of over $150,000.

And, until tuition for Pennsylvania Residents is less than or equal to 110% of the average in-state tuition for all Public Big Ten Universities
and, Enrollment of Undergrads at Penn State University Park is composed of at least 75% In-State Students.

3) No creation of New Administrative Positions
4) No filling of open Administrative Positions, without approved, quantitative justification wrt Penn State’s Educational and Research Missions
(ie, positions cannot be filled unless it can be clearly demonstrated that the function provides a positive net economic benefit).
5) All Administrative positions with salaries over $200,000 will have salaries reduced by 5% every year, until those criteria are met."

I think such measures, back in 2018, would have gone a long way in preventing us from being in the pickle we now find ourselves.
I will be advocating for the types of procedures I outlined in 2018. Time will tell.

"The move comes less than two weeks after Penn State President Neeli Bendapudi, who took over in May, acknowledged during a board of trustees meeting that the university operated at a $166 million deficit during the 2021-2022 fiscal year. Although the university used its central reserves to off-set last year’s deficit, such a practice is not sustainable, according to Sara Thorndike, the university’s senior vice president for finance and business."

My children didn't go to PSU because it was too costly (they would've been in-state students). I haven't donated a dime since 2012. I couldn't care less what they do with their money any longer. And I'm a PSU alumnus. I want to write a $4.09 check every year, but don't want to waste the paper, tree pulp and stamp

 

[GrimReaper]

So I apparently have a different idea of what a university is. What positions DON'T impact student success?

Where shall we begin?

 

[TheBigUglies]

Each org had good hard working people that makes things run and also have the lazy arse mfers that don't give a crap and just do the minimum to sustain there job. How do you weed them out? Also, I keep hearing we can't find people to fill the open positions so is hiring freeze really going to do much? I think I saw there were currently 1000+ jobs open on the PSU board, what percentage of them get filled over the course of the a year.

 

[Nitwit]

"The move comes less than two weeks after Penn State President Neeli Bendapudi, who took over in May, acknowledged during a board of trustees meeting that the university operated at a $166 million deficit during the 2021-2022 fiscal year. Although the university used its central reserves to off-set last year’s deficit, such a practice is not sustainable, according to Sara Thorndike, the university’s senior vice president for finance and business."

My children didn't go to PSU because it was too costly (they would've been in-state students). I haven't donated a dime since 2012. I couldn't care less what they do with their money any longer. And I'm a PSU alumnus. I want to write a $4.09 check every year, but don't want to waste the paper and tree pulp

I’m curious. Where did your children wind up going to college? And what was your major at PSU that you weren’t able to afford to send your children there?

 

[PSU12046]

I’m curious. Where did your children wind up going to college?

Both of them went to Lebanon Valley College with a boatload of academic scholarships (basically free undergrad . . . grad school . . . a different story)
Both played DIII sports. My daughter is an OT and my son is a CPA. Seriously, thanks for asking!

 

[razpsu]

....downside is first they have to hire an Executive Vice President of Hiring Freeze for the Athletic Department.....

but after that....it's a go

Penn State implements hiring freeze through at least next summer. Here’s what we know

PSU is trying to balance its budget after operating at a $150 million deficit in the 2021-2022 academic year.

www.yahoo.com

Probably because they have hired everyone and there is no one left to hire. But to your point they need to hire someone to be in charge of this.

 

[HarrisburgDave]

A non freeze freeze. Typical academic BS. Half measures poor managers are good at. If we could have hired a real business oriented President we might have stopped the bleeding.

 

[Nitwit]

Both of them went to Lebanon Valley College with a boatload of academic scholarships (basically free undergrad . . . grad school . . . a different story)
Both played DIII sports. My daughter is an OT and my son is a CPA. Seriously, thanks for asking!

They couldn’t have likely been Div 1 athletes at PSU then so they got a much different experience and it worked out for them. My daughter went to F&M to swim Div III although she was accepted at PSU. It cost a fortune but she wanted a small liberal arts college although she loved Penn State and still does. The cost was worth it IMHO. She’s getting her PHD this year and hopes to teach at one of the Ivies.

 

[PSU12046]

They couldn’t have likely been Div 1 athletes at PSU then so they got a much different experience and it worked out for them. My daughter went to F&M to swim Div III although she was accepted at PSU. It cost a fortune but she wanted a small liberal arts college although she loved Penn State and still does. She’s getting her PHD this year and hopes to teach at one of the Ivies.

My daughter was recruited heavily at PSU. At one of her camps, she turned to me and said, this shtick is not for me for college. Like your daughter, she still loves PSU

 

[HarrisburgDave]

"The move comes less than two weeks after Penn State President Neeli Bendapudi, who took over in May, acknowledged during a board of trustees meeting that the university operated at a $166 million deficit during the 2021-2022 fiscal year. Although the university used its central reserves to off-set last year’s deficit, such a practice is not sustainable, according to Sara Thorndike, the university’s senior vice president for finance and business."

My children didn't go to PSU because it was too costly (they would've been in-state students). I haven't donated a dime since 2012. I couldn't care less what they do with their money any longer. And I'm a PSU alumnus. I want to write a $4.09 check every year, but don't want to waste the paper, tree pulp and stamp

I fully understand where you are coming from.
I don’t think the PSU experience is worth the $. The opportunities to get experience in the professions and business are extremely limited in State College.

My kids wanted a metro atmosphere. My daughter went to college at Chapman outside LA and my son headed to Temple. They both had great experiences.

My daughter took advantage of job opportunities in SoCal and stayed over the summers. She graduated with two strong majors and a great list of jobs on her resume. My son enjoyed the social life in Philly and got to indulge his music in a couple performing bands. He lives there now and loves it.

As for Penn State, I’m long since caring about the value of my degree. I’m at that stage in life it just does not matter. I do care about the fact that it is poorly run and costly. As a state related university it should be accountable to every taxpayer.

 

[J.E.B]

Now start cutting the fat... Get the knives out Neeli. This bloated bureaucracy needs a severe fasting.

 

[PSU12046]

I fully understand where you are coming from.
I don’t think the PSU experience is worth the $. The opportunities to get experience in the professions and business are extremely limited in State College.

My kids wanted a metro atmosphere. My daughter went to college at Chapman outside LA and my son headed to Temple. They both had great experiences.

My daughter took advantage of job opportunities in SoCal and stayed over the summers. She graduated with two strong majors and a gray list of jobs on her resume. My son enjoyed the social life in Philly and got to indulge his music in a couple performing bands. He lives there now and loves it.

As for Penn State, I’m long since caring about the value of my degree. I’m at that stage in life it just does not matter. I do care about the fact that it is poorly run and costly. As a state related university it should be accountable to every taxpayer.

Agreed. Sounds like your children turned out very well! I remember when I graduated from PSU and when asked, puffed out my chest and said, I graduated from The Pennsylvania State University! Now I mumble under my breath psu.

 

[Woodpecker]

Both played DIII sports. My daughter is an OT

Penn State can use a couple of good OTs ... oh wait, nevermind.

 

[LionJim]

My daughter was recruited heavily at PSU. At one of her camps, she turned to me and said, this shtick is not for me for college.

That’s maturity talking.

 

[PSU12046]

Penn State can use a couple of good OTs ... oh wait, nevermind.

HAHA! Yeah, she's 115 lbs.

 

[Woodpecker]

HAHA! Yeah, she's 115 lbs.

Ah, a project

 

[HarrisburgDave]

Ah, a project

When was the last time that the Penn State OTs did not play like girls?

 

[Keyser Soze 16802]

As some here may recall, I have been an advocate for a targeted Administrative Hiring freeze for many years.
To be clear, that is NOT what this recent announcement is.

What I advocated for, in an article written back in 2018, was a five-step plan:


"1) Mandated 4-year freeze on Tuition and other Mandatory Fees charged to students.
2) Immediate Wage Freeze on all Administrative positions with salaries of over $150,000.

And, until tuition for Pennsylvania Residents is less than or equal to 110% of the average in-state tuition for all Public Big Ten Universities
and, Enrollment of Undergrads at Penn State University Park is composed of at least 75% In-State Students.

3) No creation of New Administrative Positions
4) No filling of open Administrative Positions, without approved, quantitative justification wrt Penn State’s Educational and Research Missions
(ie, positions cannot be filled unless it can be clearly demonstrated that the function provides a positive net economic benefit).
5) All Administrative positions with salaries over $200,000 will have salaries reduced by 5% every year, until those criteria are met."

I think such measures, back in 2018, would have gone a long way in preventing us from being in the pickle we now find ourselves.
I will be advocating for the types of procedures I outlined in 2018. Time will tell.

I wish you good luck. Academic administrators work with diabolical creativity to justify more administrative positions.

 

[Keyser Soze 16802]

Oh, I agree. But as some would say...."it's a start"....

I still believe it would be a good measure to reduce the number of commonwealth campuses. More than a few serve less than 1,000 students. And a few of those are physically close enough to each other where it would make sense to combine them

Scranton and Wilkes Barre about 45 minutes from each other
Beaver and New Kensington are about 1 hour 10 minutes from each other
Allegheny and New Kensington are about 45 minutes from each other
Hazleton and Scranton - about 45 minutes from each other
Hazleton and Wilkes Barre - about 45 minutes from each other

I can't imagine what it costs to have to maintain brick and mortar for 300-500 college students. But it cannot be a good ROI.

We all know that some should be shut down and we all know why it will not happen

 

[psuro]

We all know that some should be shut down and we all know why it will not happen

I don’t. Tell me.

 

[HarrisburgDave]

We all know that some should be shut down and we all know why it will not happen

Back in the early 1970s the Commonwealth campuses made sense. State College faced huge attendance increases and lacked the infrastructure, as a community, to deal with the growth. Fact is the town is still too small to host a major institution of its size.

Still,the need for so many campuses is no longer there. Penn State could drop a few and it would not be noticed. Look at what the Pa State System is finally doing.

 

[manatree]

Still,the need for so many campuses is no longer there. Penn State could drop a few and it would not be noticed. Look at what the Pa State System is finally doing.

The State System isn’t closing squat. I’ll be surprised if their ‘consolidation‘ will save enough money to reprint the stationary with the new names.

 

[BW Lion]

Hiring Freeze? The Braves fans are gonna be pissed!

The "Freeze" probably came out of the open gate 3/4 into the race. I don't get the goggles.

 

[Nitwit]

Harrisburg Dave has it right. With declining enrollments due to demographics the commonwealth campuses are no longer needed the way they once were but now due to politics it’s difficult to close them. Unless the UP campus sees a surge in applicants, and it might now that Covid is subsiding, it’s unlikely they will be needed to absorb the overflow. The best thing that PSU can do to save them is to make the UP campus more selective to force students to take their first year or two at one of the commonwealth campuses if they want to transfer to the UP campus later on. From what I’ve heard the number of applicants is increasing and they may be looking at a student housing crisis in the fall, so perhaps this trend is beginning to occur. Also it would not surprise me that President Bendapudi’s impact may result in an increase in international students since she herself was an international student when she came to attend university in Kansas. That image will not be lost on the international community. It may also result in the UP campus becoming more selective just based on an increase overall in the applicant pool irrespective of their home.

 

[Keyser Soze 16802]

I don’t. Tell me.

Legislators will never allow a campus to be shut down in their districts

 

[BobPSU92]

Article on psu.edu:

https://www.psu.edu/news/administration/story/penn-state-taking-additional-measures-balance-its-budget-summer-2025/

“UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. — As the University continues to take steps to balance its budget — which has been impacted by significant inflation, flat state funding for a third consecutive year, tuition freezes in three of the last four years, and enrollment and revenue pressures at least partially due to the pandemic — it is implementing a strategic hiring freeze effective Aug. 1 through at least summer 2023. However, searches to fill critical roles will still move forward as Penn State will continue to hire for positions that support the University in important ways.

This includes positions needed for safety, student success and compliance, among others. This strategic hiring freeze is one tactic among many being taken to help meet the objective of a balanced budget by the summer of 2025, which requires the University to save an estimated $250 million. To help meet this goal, in addition to the strategic hiring freeze, the University is instituting a 3% budget rescission for the 2022-23 fiscal year, which is expected to generate cost savings of approximately $46.2 million.

Penn State continues to prioritize its people and operating as a leading-edge public land-grant research university. As such, both expense reduction and revenue enhancement strategies will be necessary to help fund key strategic initiatives as well as invest back in employees.”

Got-thisness.