Thoughts from the couch….
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OK then… great job getting it right with just a casual glance. Please apply to be a Big Ten ref, they could use you.
I didn’t think it was difficult, especially the replay? Inadvertent contact, they were running side by side basically. Lot of paying your dues before you can coach college…Its Also a grind for three hours, got to be on point every second to do it right.
Totally agree... we'd win, just not hold them to 17. He played very well early and vs MSU but not so much since then. I just know he draws us offsides about 50 times a game (ok, i might be exaggerating a wee bit lol).
Well yes, but IF TM was in there it MIGHT have been different. You thrwo a 3rd string guy who hasn't played more than a few minutes into a whiteout... well, that's kinda an advantage to us. Moirgan would obviously handle that better.
But it was unlikely they'd win. Once we got our ship in gear, it was apparent if we throttled down we could score 50. If needed.
I enjoyed your comment and it made me laugh... but do you think most people here just watch our games... or do you think we watch other games and draw comparisons? It's awfully hard to find meaningful stats/analysis/data when it comes to CFB (unlike stocks etc) so we're pretty much left to watching our peers go at it and draw some kind of conclusion.
But yes. To those who solely watch our games and make sweeping generalizations, I look away. But when it's clear the poster DOES watch other teams and actually says what he/she/it/etc thinks about it.... I do pay attention. I had taken a couple years away from doing that because it was too consuming... this year (yes, older lol) I've re-engaged and watch whatever ball i can so i'm not on an island when making observations.
Which isn't to say I'm right.. just that I feel like i'm more involved.
Does watching the stock market make anyone an expert? You can obtain data from CFB, however, just watching games does not make one an expert. All those guys (and women) you see on TV have people who compile and consume data/stastics. I serioulsy doubt anyone short of the guys you see on TV have enough expertise to really be taken seriously. The podcast guys are only slightly better than we are.
It's become a bit of a fashion to assume someone is an expert because they constantly scream their opinion. (metaphoricaly speaking).
So even if they watch other games (and I also watch other games), it does not make one an "expert".
edit - no pork rinds or beer were consumed in the issuance of this opinion....
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I mentioned it and said it's probably a different game if he plays, but take the "W" and move on happily.
Yea. There was a lot of stuff they didn't show on TV. I watched the DVR of the game when I got home Sunday. I didn't realize they missed the entire opening of the White out because the TX/OSU game went on so long.
They missed an awesome opening. I thought it was one of the better light shows for a White Out.
I saw that Guido is back I wonder if he had anything to do with it?
As for the "streaker" (It was on the opposite end of the stadium from me but I thought they had their clothes on
) I thought it was kind of funny in a stupid sort of way.
Yeah, I saw the opening kick on ESPNews. They did show a snipped of the opening with the fireworks, etc.
Who the hell schedules these games for 730? They know CFB is taking longer to play, because there are plenty of times to stop the game clock. And the closer the game, the more the players and coaches use the stoppage to their advantage. The k/o for the PSU game should have been scheduled for 8 PM.
FWIW, I watched Clemson pull their veteran starting QB, put in their 5-star freshman, and win. I guess I’m now qualified to say something meaningful like…I’m not satisfied with 10-2.
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You should force Clemson to fire Dabo, since he keeps playing their veteran QB, and has said he is the starting QB moving forward. Perhaps you can find a number of newspaper articles that say the same thing and now you can feel justified in your statements.FWIW, I watched Clemson pull their veteran starting QB, put in their 5-star freshman, and win. I guess I’m now qualified to say something meaningful like…I’m not satisfied with 10-2.
I hear that's a thing.
Great, but not elite.
If that's the best PSU can hope for and the program is not regularly challenging for championships will the fans continue to fill the stadium? I don't have an answer. Pat Kraft better if he intends to keep pouring money into the program.
The post to which I responded said, “But when it's clear the poster DOES watch other teams and actually says what he/she/it/etc thinks about it.... I do pay attention.”
That’s exactly what I did. So he HAS to listen to me!
And I bet I can find some articles saying Dabo should play the freshman. But I’m not gonna’
Pretty good hit by the photographer. The Board should approve as he went low and tried to wrap as opposed to just banging him high. Seems like the photographer coach has been working on the tackling, as the board pointed out he/she should. Nice to know even the photographers read this board.
I always forget: which one calls only successful plays and which one only calls the unsuccessful?
Pretty good hit by the photographer. The Board should approve as he went low and tried to wrap as opposed to just banging him high. Seems like the photographer coach has been working on the tackling, as the board pointed out he/she should. Nice to know even the photographers read this board.
Damn straight.
I guess so... although I watched their 5 star guy look pretty much like a newbie out there (fwiw, Allar has looked far sharper). But I give them credit for acknowledging their starter was blowing it and might as well try plan b.FWIW, I watched Clemson pull their veteran starting QB, put in their 5-star freshman, and win. I guess I’m now qualified to say something meaningful like…I’m not satisfied with 10-2.
Dabo is pretty good at the psychological connection to players.. He mixes it up.. I watched that entire game and have followed them since 2011 (don't have any clothes or really like them) I used to compare our trajectory to theirs but not of late.. So with that preface.. Dabo pulls DJ really nice kid (father is another story) puts in Klubnik who has a nicer ball than DJ (dating sister of one of my sales reps, who was Ehrlingers back up at Westlake)... Just to change up the game... They would have lost following the same game plan and no adjustments... Dabo makes adjustment Klubnik takes a late hit OOb and done game changed.. Put DJ back in thus in order to put confidence back in DJ... End of game flat out tells the Reporter DJ is our guy he is our starter and leader just needed a break etc.. That's coaching.. That's a form of adjusting.
What's the definition of insanity?
Me reading your posts and thinking you may have something of value to say?
How do you know Yurcich was behind this? Maybe Franklin was behind some of the adjustments. But that wouldn't fit the narrative of those that dislike him, so bad things are attributed to CJF, good things attributed to someone else. Am I doing this right?
Not exactly... I do pay attention... doesn't mean i'm gonna agree lol.
That OOB hit was just incredibly stupid (the late hit on the first down run didn't help 'cuse much either, but that first hit was the definition of game changer). Based on what I saw of Klubnik he isn't nearly as ready as Allar to step in and start... that he was considered the #1 QB out of high school was surprising (based on what I saw on Saturday). Now 'cuse plays serious D and maybe he'll look a lot better against easier opponents but for the moment there's no question who I would rather have on PSU.
If you watched the All Star game they both competed in, you could see Klubnik was ahead of Allar at that time from a game perspective. His accuracy and mobility in the pocket stood out. Allar seemed to be nearly the same at the spring game, but really began to turn the corner over the summer. He's got the arm talent to be excellent. He just needs to refine his pocket presence and trust his reads. Generally, that stuff requires time.
I've seen players starting too soon who never recover
Several posters on the Minn 247 pay board claim the crowd wasn’t very loud. They could carry on conversations normally and many of their home games have been louder.
They also claim we pipe in crowd noise. I know the band is mic’d. I think they mistakenly left the mic open by mistake at one point.
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The crowd wasn't a sustained roar, but Minnesota was essentially out of the game at 17-3 after our slow start. Once we put up points in the 3rd, why would we be loud?
5 false start penalties say otherwise.
And nobody in our stadium can carry on a normal conversation during non white out games so I call bull **** on that.
Sounds to me like people making posts who weren’t really there.
First, good observations Ro. Agree with most/all of them.
But I will bite on the “quiet” and “standard
research” comments.
If Penn State could not beat a mediocre Minnesota team that was missing it’s starting QB (replaced by one garnering his 1st start) and their top wideout - In a White Out game - then the Nittany Lions would have been more mediocre than could have been imagined by most.
Penn State has been a very (sub) mediocre team for the past two seasons - underperforming it’s recruiting classes and the stature of a program with a 110,000 seat stadium that is nearly full every week. And the trend line has been going in the wrong direction.
Can that trend be stemmed? Even reversed? We’ll see on Saturday. I would be thrilled if we could just be competitive and not tossed around like a rag doll - ala Michigan.
And then build on a good effort and beat the teams left on our schedule. Assuming we are not totally dismantled, Penn State should be favored in all of their remaining games.
It was 17-10 at the half, they had MO and they were getting the ball with a chance to tie... hardly think our crowd would be out of it at that point. And if they were... then our crowd blows, and it would pain me to learn that. So.... who was THERE and how did it go down?
I can tell you that a 9 or 10 win season at osu or bama or georgia would lead to calls to fire their coach.
"expectations" vary. At psu, it's 8-9 wins. At elite schools it's 11. We ain't elite.
EDIT: under Allar we have the opportunity to BECOME elite. We'll see.
I'm really hoping to hear an answer on this which is why I answered it directly in a separate post. I think we've been groomed to accept 7 or 8 win seasons. Elite schools expect 11 and are pissed with less. That makes our expectations about 3 wins less per season than theirs. And here's the thing.... we BOTH get what we expect. The get their 11+ and we get our 7+.
Was THAT our expectation when JVP ran this ship? Been around since the 60s and the answer is a resounding NFW. 7+ wins presumes we will lose to every big hitter on the schedule... in which case, why bother tuning in?
Maybe I (too) have to make that decision... hoped it'd never come to that but it's looking more and more likely. The "good" news is that apparently the "expectations" transition has wormed its way into the fabric of PSU life and we have plenty of paying fans who are cool with 7/8. God bless.
The number at PSU is 107K. How many wins it takes to sustain that I couldn't say.
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