Thunder & Lightning: Where Is The Buzz For Mississippi State Football?

[HD6]

Mississippi State starts spring practice today, and with the amount of production returning on both sides of the ball, its no stretch to think the Bulldogs could take another step forward in 2022. So why isn’t the buzz around this team louder? Brian Hadad and Robbie Faulk discuss spring storylines...
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[ArcherSPS]

It’s bc we have a dinosaur that doesn’t make adjustments, despises our players that leave early, hates NIL, and won’t touch the portal enough roaming the sidelines. But hey at least he’s outspoken on twitter /fart noise

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

The psychological insanity that losing a bowl game causes.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Why on God's green earth would he not attend his kids pro day? F that, HIS pro day. It's the Mississippi State football pro day and the Mississippi State head coach wasn't in attendance. MFer better have a good excuse.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

It’s bc we have a dinosaur that doesn’t make adjustments, despises our players that leave early, hates NIL, and won’t touch the portal enough roaming the sidelines. But hey at least he’s outspoken on twitter /fart noise

We’ve acquired several players from the portal, how many do you want?

 

[mcdawg22]

Key West is warm.

 

[PBRME]

I’m still in show me mode from Joe’s hire. Joe showed me nothing and so far neither has Leach.

 

[047Dog]

Mississippi State starts spring practice today, and with the amount of production returning on both sides of the ball, its no stretch to think the Bulldogs could take another step forward in 2022. So why isn’t the buzz around this team louder? Brian Hadad and Robbie Faulk discuss spring storylines...
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We just need to give our "young" quarterback more time!!! He's barely had 20 starts in his career. What do you expect??*****

 

[dawgstudent]

Leach is just like Howland as far as what he brings to the program as far as excitement. He doesn't sell MSU. So the only thing you have going for you is wins which remains to be seen.

 

[ArcherSPS]

Get ready for the Leach zealots to downvote you for speaking truth on “The best coach in America who is also sub .500 at MSU”

 

[ArcherSPS]

We have spots from this past class that he’s just not even trying to fill because he’s lazy and doesn’t give a ****. Spring practice is here and it didn’t stop other programs.

 

[Seinfeld]

I've got a weird feeling that this season is going to test the patience of the Bulldog faithful. 8 games against teams expected to have better seasons than us, so while we're all hoping for 7-8 wins, we can't pretend that a 5-7 or 6-6 year isn't in play. Then, combine that with a scenario where Leach doubles down on Rogers at the end of the year which then pushes Robertson towards the portal, and many minds will be lost.

Last year wasn't a bad season per se, but Leach had some opportunities to capitalize on wins that would've bought him some good favor with the MSU fanbase, and he unfortunately failed to do so. Now, he's got a tough season in front of him without a lot of leeway

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

He loses games he’s not supposed to and wins games he’s not supposed to. That makes for an up and down and almost apathetic approach from fans eventually.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Maybe we just got what we paid for......

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Live from the Keys !

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Leach and Cohen will be satisfied with 6-6 and a loss to Ole Miss this year.

 

[patdog]

So far, he's just like Howland in production too. When you're 11-13 with 2 straight Egg Bowl losses and coming off a bowl loss, there's not going to be a lot of buzz around the program.

 

[dorndawg]

On-the-job retirement is going about as well as it can.

 

[thatsbaseball]

That's the problem in a nutshell.

 

[Smoked Toag]

Leach is just like Howland as far as what he brings to the program as far as excitement. He doesn't sell MSU. So the only thing you have going for you is wins which remains to be seen.

Accuracy here. I thought he would attract attention just by being Leach, but apparently not. Winning big will be the only way.

 

[MSUDC11]

I think morale was generally in a good spot going into the Egg Bowl. We were 7-4 and had recently had the massive comeback win at Auburn. After the Bama game we had been playing really well for 4-5 weeks, the only loss in that stretch was the FG kicking fiasco at Arkansas, which we win regardless if a phantom PI isn’t called on a 4th down late. Most people had gotten over the Memphis loss to some degree and had we beaten OM the season would’ve been viewed as a big success.

But the Egg Bowl and the Liberty Bowl really got people down on Leach. I don’t think either loss is QUITE as bad as some want to make it, with one being against a Top 10 team and the other being an exhibition game where we were missing a bunch of key guys. But I do get the frustration of ending a season on a sour note, and it definitely carries into the next year. 2014 was our most successful season this century and all that many can think of with that year is how we finished by losing 3 of 4. Conversely, the 2013 and 2016 seasons aren’t viewed as poorly as they probably should be because we finished strong, even though the first 80-90% of those seasons really sucked.

ETA: I also think there’s something about college football in general right now that people are down on. It’s hard to get super excited when you know ahead of time that your ceiling under the best of circumstances is still probably 2nd or 3rd place in your own division.

 

[Smoked Toag]

This retirement stuff is the wrong take. And it's a simple-minded one because he's 61 years old, meanwhile Saban is like 70.

Can you explain why he's recruited right on par with previous coaches? What about the impact guys he's brought in from the portal? What about the fact that he's got some pretty good guys on his staff? I don't see this laziness. Not to mention he's runs the 17 out of the team. He understands that we need a different type of player at MSU, can't just have the typical primadonnas.

Think some of you need to at least wait until this next year is complete before trying to cause a bunch of dissention in the ranks. And then you have idiots like SterlingArcher with strong opinions based on ****. The sooner some of you realize that we can't do the same stuff the other schools do, the better.

 

[Smoked Toag]

I think morale was generally in a good spot going into the Egg Bowl. We were 7-4 and had recently had the massive comeback win at Auburn. After the Bama game we had been playing really well for 4-5 weeks, the only loss in that stretch was the FG kicking fiasco at Arkansas, which we win regardless if a phantom PI isn’t called on a 4th down late. Most people had gotten over the Memphis loss to some degree and had we beaten OM the season would’ve been viewed as a big success.

But the Egg Bowl and the Liberty Bowl really got people down on Leach. I don’t think either loss is QUITE as bad as some want to make it, with one being against a Top 10 team and the other being an exhibition game where we were missing a bunch of key guys. But I do get the frustration of ending a season on a sour note, and it definitely carries into the next year. 2014 was our most successful season this century and all that many can think of with that year is how we finished by losing 3 of 4. Conversely, the 2013 and 2016 seasons aren’t viewed as poorly as they probably should be because we finished strong, even though the first 80-90% of those seasons really sucked.

ETA: I also think there’s something about college football in general right now that people are down on. It’s hard to get super excited when you know ahead of time that your ceiling under the best of circumstances is still probably 2nd or 3rd place in your own division.

Well if our fans are dumb enough to be mad about that Egg Bowl, then that's on them. Ole Miss had an old team spearheaded by their 2019 class, where they wiped the floor with us in state (half our guys aren't even on the team anymore). We actually over-achieved last year. And the Liberty Bowl? Good Lord, we had like 25 players out.

I agree with your last point about the state of football. That will change eventually because the other conferences will get tired of being left out of the playoff and it'll expand, for the betterment of everyone.

 

[Smoked Toag]

He loses games he’s not supposed to and wins games he’s not supposed to. That makes for an up and down and almost apathetic approach from fans eventually.

Agree but isn't it a little early for apathy? I mean it's pretty obvious we are on an upward trajectory.

 

[dorndawg]

This retirement stuff is the wrong take. And it's a simple-minded one because he's 61 years old, meanwhile Saban is like 70.

Can you explain why he's recruited right on par with previous coaches? What about the impact guys he's brought in from the portal? What about the fact that he's got some pretty good guys on his staff? I don't see this laziness. Not to mention he's runs the 17 out of the team. He understands that we need a different type of player at MSU, can't just have the typical primadonnas.

Think some of you need to at least wait until this next year is complete before trying to cause a bunch of dissention in the ranks. And then you have idiots like SterlingArcher with strong opinions based on ****. The sooner some of you realize that we can't do the same stuff the other schools do, the better.

We've always had a contingent who are thrilled with 6-6. Nothing new under the sun.

 

[patdog]

I've always said, you can lose the Egg Bowl or you can lose a bowl game and keep fanbase energized going into the spring and next season. But if you lose both, the fanbase is going to be flat until you start winning.

 

[Smoked Toag]

We've always had a contingent who are thrilled with 6-6. Nothing new under the sun.

Show me where I have even remotely alluded to that. I think that is your tunnel vision again, pretty obvious that you cannot argue with my post, so right on point, move the goalposts based on something I never said (or even inferred).

 

[Smoked Toag]

I've always said, you can lose the Egg Bowl or you can lose a bowl game and keep fanbase energized going into the spring and next season. But if you lose both, the fanbase is going to be flat until you start winning.

Are people really just that simple? That's sad if true. It's crazy to me that people can't look at the information and form an educated opinion.

I mean yeah I get that the general populace is stupid, but ****, I don't want to be so cynical about it.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Saban is ALL about football and is willing to do ANYTHING to win...Leach actually has a life outside of football and I could see him filling his retirement account and walking away from coaching college football because he can't stomach the direction it's headed .

 

[STLDawg]

We should’ve just kept Morehed if we were gonna keep underachieving. At least he cared about our players pro development and building a team culture.

 

[Smoked Toag]

We should’ve just kept Morehed if we were gonna keep underachieving. At least he cared about our players pro development and building a team culture.

Wut? A culture of MMA among teammates?

 

[thatsbaseball]

Did you think college football fandom is some sort of bastion of the human intellect ? LOL

 

[FlotownDawg]

This is just revisionist history. What team culture did Moorhead build? One where our starting LB breaks the face of the starting QB with a punch? The program was in complete disarray when Moorhead was fired. That’s why he was fired, not because of wins and losses. I know Leach hasn’t exactly set the world on fire yet but let’s not look back fondly on Moorhead and make stuff up just because we don’t like Leach.

 

[Dawgtruc]

If Leach loses to both OM & Arky again this year, he is dead to me.

 

[PartTimeGenius]

I'd much rather have a team with very little buzz around it than one where every 3* is hyped to be the next Tom Brady and gives a false hope.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

I don’t disagree with that either but it kinda goes back to what DS said comparing it to Howland. For all the momentum and excitement you get from wins like Texas A&M and Auburn, you suck the life out of it when you lose to teams like Memphis and how poorly they played in the Egg Bowl. I’m not going to lump the bowl game loss in there because with as many people as they had out, it wasn’t going to be pretty but it’s the last thing people have on their mind so it dampens the excitement.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Don’t feed the trolls.

 

[dorndawg]

Show me where I have even remotely alluded to that. I think that is your tunnel vision again, pretty obvious that you cannot argue with my post, so right on point, move the goalposts based on something I never said (or even inferred).

You can talk recruiting, portal, staff all you want. Leach is what his record is.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Everyone isn’t on his genius level.**

 

[DAWG61]

Don't go to my bowl game I don't go to your pro day

 

[Smoked Toag]

I don’t disagree with that either but it kinda goes back to what DS said comparing it to Howland. For all the momentum and excitement you get from wins like Texas A&M and Auburn, you suck the life out of it when you lose to teams like Memphis and how poorly they played in the Egg Bowl. I’m not going to lump the bowl game loss in there because with as many people as they had out, it wasn’t going to be pretty but it’s the last thing people have on their mind so it dampens the excitement.

I didn't think we played that poorly in the Egg Bowl though. We had a chance to win but Ole Miss was just better.