Time for an investigation into the NCAA Baseball committee

HuntDawg

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FTFY.
It would be fine, just like it is for football and basketball. Makes zero sense to not take stadium size into account. If you want to host, you need to provide a decent stadium, whether that’s the school’s or a nearby minor league stadium.
There are minimum requirements needed to host. If you want those changed that’s a different discussion. However rewarding regionals to best stadiums is dumb.
 

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Then win the games so you are deserving of a host spot.

Of course you have no issues with it because we are one of those that would benefit from said rule. But it’s a dumb rule that would do nothing to grow the game… again it would be the equal of saying let’s play all the football games in the best stadiums and where there are the best game day experience. If that was the case there wouldn’t be very many football games in Starkville
Well don't get regular season and post season confused along with the different sports you mention. You are trying to compare a 1912 Model T Ford to a SR71 Blackbird. If State didn't make the postseason in Baseball, then they have no right to host. But since they did and they have the facilities and logistics to accommodate 3 visiting baseball teams along with their fan bases that wish to travel, then let State host as a 2 seed or whatever seed they get. When you have to turn folks away or limit ticket sales because you don't have the adequate facilities, that's not a good thing.
 

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FTFY.
It would be fine, just like it is for football and basketball. Makes zero sense to not take stadium size into account. If you want to host, you need to provide a decent stadium, whether that’s the school’s or a nearby minor league stadium.
So when the 1st round of the football playoffs are a home game. We get in as the 5 seed for the first time in years and we draw notre dame in round 1. We can’t and shouldn’t host because notre dame has the best stadium and game day experience…… yeahhhhhhh that would go over well
 

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State fans: No one cares about college baseball

Also State fans: why we giving all these small schools opportunities?
 
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HuntDawg

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Well don't get regular season and post season confused along with the different sports you mention. You are trying to compare a 1912 Model T Ford to a SR71 Blackbird. If State didn't make the postseason in Baseball, then they have no right to host. But since they did and they have the facilities and logistics to accommodate 3 visiting baseball teams along with their fan bases that wish to travel, then let State host as a 2 seed or whatever seed they get. When you have to turn folks away or limit ticket sales because you don't have the adequate facilities, that's not a good thing.
the venues that are award hosts have those things. Might not be as perfect as other places but they have those things. There have been a few occasions here and there however even in those venues are packed and those environments are applauded and published as good things, amazing time, etc…. Which is great for the sport

we can’t sell out bc we have standing room only. However I know a friend that bought 4 standing room only tickets for a large amount of money to come to the Starkville regional a few years back and could get his family of 4 anywhere to actually watch the game and be comfortable… he Later said had he known it would be that way he wouldn’t have nought the tickets.
 

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So when the 1st round of the football playoffs are a home game. We get in as the 5 seed for the first time in years and we draw notre dame in round 1. We can’t and shouldn’t host because notre dame has the best stadium and game day experience…… yeahhhhhhh that would go over well
@maroontide06

using your baseball logic. If we get into the football playoffs. We shouldn’t host that game ever. Since we’d be turning away potential ticket holders, couldn’t offer the food and hotels needed, and the game day experience would suffer
 

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So when the 1st round of the football playoffs are a home game. We get in as the 5 seed for the first time in years and we draw notre dame in round 1. We can’t and shouldn’t host because notre dame has the best stadium and game day experience…… yeahhhhhhh that would go over well
You'd have to look at the available venues. NFL stadiums have a capacity from 65k to 80k I think. We're 55k. We're not small. If you put the cutoff around 55k that would allow ~9 Big10 schools (not counting expansion), 9 SEC schools (plus OU and UTex), 5 Big 12 schools (in the new configuration; quick google game me bastardized results)),a nd another half dozen in the Pac 12?

Is that too few schools eligible? If most schools had a minor league or major league stadium nearby that is nicer and larger capacity, may not. But with NFL stadiums not generally offering that much mroe capacity, and there not being some in big geographic areas, I'd say 55k is a little too stiff for a cutoff (although that would allow the vast majority of realistic playoff hopefuls host).

In baseball, it looks like the smallest Triple AAA stadium holds 6,200. Lowest Double AA is 5,200. That seems about right to me for a minimum capacity. If you don't have 5,000, go lock down a minor league stadium? Not sure how many schools that would knock out.
 

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So the teams with the best stadiums host, everyone else is SOL
If your school can't meet some bare minimum standards to properly host an NCAA regional then yes, you should be SOL. Still wouldn't mean that only the best stadiums host though.
 

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You'd have to look at the available venues. NFL stadiums have a capacity from 65k to 80k I think. We're 55k. We're not small. If you put the cutoff around 55k that would allow ~9 Big10 schools (not counting expansion), 9 SEC schools (plus OU and UTex), 5 Big 12 schools (in the new configuration; quick google game me bastardized results)),a nd another half dozen in the Pac 12?

Is that too few schools eligible? If most schools had a minor league or major league stadium nearby that is nicer and larger capacity, may not. But with NFL stadiums not generally offering that much mroe capacity, and there not being some in big geographic areas, I'd say 55k is a little too stiff for a cutoff (although that would allow the vast majority of realistic playoff hopefuls host).

In baseball, it looks like the smallest Triple AAA stadium holds 6,200. Lowest Double AA is 5,200. That seems about right to me for a minimum capacity. If you don't have 5,000, go lock down a minor league stadium? Not sure how many schools that would knock out.
We aren’t in the top 25 in terms of biggest college football stadiums.

the point was if you want the biggest stadiums to host the playoffs type events… then we’d never host a CFB playoff game
 

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If your school can't meet some bare minimum standards to properly host an NCAA regional then yes, you should be SOL. Still wouldn't mean that only the best stadiums host though.
And they do. Even if ours goes above and beyond. The ones hosting do and they deserve to host just as equally been though they don’t have the dudes bells and whistles
 

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We aren’t in the top 25 in terms of biggest college football stadiums.

the point was if you want the biggest stadiums to host the playoffs type events… then we’d never host a CFB playoff game
Did anyone ever say to award games to the top 25 largest stadiums? In this thread or anywhere?

Again, once you start getting significantly smaller than minor league baseball stadiums, it's reasonable to say, hey, you either need to lock down a good venue or pass on hosting. ECU has a 5,000 capacity. THey are an hour and 45 minutes from Durham, which has a AAA stadium with a 10,000 capacity. That should probably be a discussion. I think generally 5,000 is enough for them to win that discussion, but maybe since they have a weak resume to begin with, that should matter more. UC Santa barbara has a 1,000 seat stadium? That generally should be a hard no. Wanting to promote college baseball in a market like California makes sense, but how much are you promoting it in a 1,000 seat stadium. If there is no 5,000 seat stadium that can be used within a 150 mile radius of Santa Barbara, it may just be that they aren't a host candidate.
 

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Did anyone ever say to award games to the top 25 largest stadiums? In this thread or anywhere?

Again, once you start getting significantly smaller than minor league baseball stadiums, it's reasonable to say, hey, you either need to lock down a good venue or pass on hosting. ECU has a 5,000 capacity. THey are an hour and 45 minutes from Durham, which has a AAA stadium with a 10,000 capacity. That should probably be a discussion. I think generally 5,000 is enough for them to win that discussion, but maybe since they have a weak resume to begin with, that should matter more. UC Santa barbara has a 1,000 seat stadium? That generally should be a hard no. Wanting to promote college baseball in a market like California makes sense, but how much are you promoting it in a 1,000 seat stadium. If there is no 5,000 seat stadium that can be used within a 150 mile radius of Santa Barbara, it may just be that they aren't a host candidate.
Again there are hosting qualifications if you don’t like them that’s a different discussion, but these teams made the qualification. They deserve to host. To give the host sites to the biggest and best stadiums and think that’s growing the game is a bad argument.
 
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Again there are hosting qualifications if you don’t like them that’s a different discussion, but these teams made the qualification. They deserve to host. To give the host sites to the biggest and best stadiums and think that’s growing the game is a bad argument.
Again, who are you arguing with here? Who has suggested only giving host sites to the biggest and best stadiums?

People are just suggesting that there be a requirement to provide a reasonable sized venue to host. And some people are also arguing that quality of the venue should be at least a tiebreaker when picking among hosts with flawed resumes. Ifyou can believe Wikipedia, there are 240+ baseball stadiums in the US with 5,000 or more capacity. Take out the MLB teams and that's still 210 options.
Make it a 4,000 minimum and you have 274 options. There's just not a compelling reason to have a regional in a stadium with 2 or 3,000 capacity, much less 1,000 capacity.
 

HuntDawg

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Again, who are you arguing with here? Who has suggested only giving host sites to the biggest and best stadiums?

People are just suggesting that there be a requirement to provide a reasonable sized venue to host. And some people are also arguing that quality of the venue should be at least a tiebreaker when picking among hosts with flawed resumes. Ifyou can believe Wikipedia, there are 240+ baseball stadiums in the US with 5,000 or more capacity. Take out the MLB teams and that's still 210 options.
Make it a 4,000 minimum and you have 274 options. There's just not a compelling reason to have a regional in a stadium with 2 or 3,000 capacity, much less 1,000 capacity.
Scroll up. The ol best stadiums need to be hosting or be part of the criteria it’s stupid. There is a minimum requirment. there is a reasonable size needed. These schools made the requirement. Extra bells and whistles shouldn’t be required or part of the selection process.

no different than if we were the 5 seed in the CFB playoff next year and had earned a home game.. only to be told sorry your going to Michigan bc their stadium is double in size and can accommodate the playoff better.

we want this because we would benefit. a host site is suppose to reward the best teams. Go earn that site. If we want to do away with host sites all together and go with neutral regionals ok to that too… but it can’t and shouldn’t turn into the pretty stadium contest in ANY capacity. The best teams who earn the right to host should host.
 
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