Too many teams make the NFL playoffs

LookSharp

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Currently, the 14-team playoff format yields three blowout losses and exposes a pretender. New England, Philly, Pittsburgh and Dallas had no business being there. Dallas by virtue of the fact it plays in a weak division. If memory serves there were once four Wild Card games instead of six. That model seemed just about right.

Also, given the 17-week regular season teams like the Packers have a decided home field advantage playing outside in late January. There's this thing called 'acclimation'. It is real. It matters. Not to mention the 17th week is not much more than Bonus Week for players. A couple of other observations if I may.

To Eagles fans, as nice a guy as Jalen Hurts is he's not the answer. The Bucs showed absolutely no respect for the passing game. You'll never make it to the Super Bowl with Hurts as QB. Now I understand you have three 1st round draft picks. Make the most of it.

To my fellow Cowboys' fans, until the Joneses stop mismanaging personnel we'll never return to the Super Bowl. Moreover, Dak is not the answer. He's too erratic. And would the Vikings (or some other team) please take Kellen Moore aka Boy Genius. He's grossly overrated. I could continue my rant but I don't want to make this a Cowboys' thread.
 
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The games were mostly fun to watch- I doubt many expected any of the losers to go far anyway. I agree with your comments on Hurts- nice kid, but not an NFL level QB.
 

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LookSharp, Are you a Dallas fan from Philly? You seem to have the classic we lose so we are the worst team in the league thing down that Eagles fan always exhibit. Dallas won the NFC East and had a shot at the #2 seat for the playoffs going into the last week. How did they not belong in the playoffs? Contrary to what the idiot at NBC Philly said during the news after the Chiefs-Steelers game. The Niners did not whopped the Cowboys. I could not believe that is the word the Philly sportscaster used. Whopped = beat down If Dak knew the rules, slid sooner and gave the official the ball, they had a shot to win the game.
 
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Yes, the 7th seeds really showed they belonged in the post season (not!). I hope college football is paying attention.
 
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Currently, the 14-team playoff format yields three blowout losses and exposes a pretender. New England, Philly, Pittsburgh and Dallas had no business being there. Dallas by virtue of the fact it plays in a weak division. If memory serves there were once four Wild Card games instead of six. That model seemed just about right.
Perhaps, but at least no teams with LOSING RECORDS got in this year...that seems to happen somewhat regularly in both basketball and hockey due to the excessive # of playoff teams in those sports.
 

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The Niners did not whopped the Cowboys. I could not believe that is the word the Philly sportscaster used. Whopped = beat down
The Cowboys played at home in a friendly loud stadium. If the game was played in SF I believe the 49’s would have won by two, maybe three scores.
 

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Currently, the 14-team playoff format yields three blowout losses and exposes a pretender. New England, Philly, Pittsburgh and Dallas had no business being there. Dallas by virtue of the fact it plays in a weak division. If memory serves there were once four Wild Card games instead of six. That model seemed just about right.

Also, given the 17-week regular season teams like the Packers have a decided home field advantage playing outside in late January. There's this thing called 'acclimation'. It is real. It matters. Not to mention the 17th week is not much more than Bonus Week for players. A couple of other observations if I may.

To Eagles fans, as nice a guy as Jalen Hurts is he's not the answer. The Bucs showed absolutely no respect for the passing game. You'll never make it to the Super Bowl with Hurts as QB. Now I understand you have three 1st round draft picks. Make the most of it.

To my fellow Cowboys' fans, until the Joneses stop mismanaging personnel we'll never return to the Super Bowl. Moreover, Dak is not the answer. He's too erratic. And would the Vikings (or some other team) please take Kellen Moore aka Boy Genius. He's grossly overrated. I could continue my rant but I don't want to make this a Cowboys' thread.
Dak is a pretty good QB in the grand scheme. He’s clearly your guy long term with his contract size.

I think you have a point with Moore. Each year we hear how critical the running game is to Dallas being good. Then they go through stretches where Dallas neglects the run and loses because of it.

I didn’t see all of yesterday’s game. The parts I saw made me wonder if that was the case.
 

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Currently, the 14-team playoff format yields three blowout losses and exposes a pretender. New England, Philly, Pittsburgh and Dallas had no business being there. Dallas by virtue of the fact it plays in a weak division. If memory serves there were once four Wild Card games instead of six. That model seemed just about right.

Also, given the 17-week regular season teams like the Packers have a decided home field advantage playing outside in late January. There's this thing called 'acclimation'. It is real. It matters. Not to mention the 17th week is not much more than Bonus Week for players. A couple of other observations if I may.

To Eagles fans, as nice a guy as Jalen Hurts is he's not the answer. The Bucs showed absolutely no respect for the passing game. You'll never make it to the Super Bowl with Hurts as QB. Now I understand you have three 1st round draft picks. Make the most of it.

To my fellow Cowboys' fans, until the Joneses stop mismanaging personnel we'll never return to the Super Bowl. Moreover, Dak is not the answer. He's too erratic. And would the Vikings (or some other team) please take Kellen Moore aka Boy Genius. He's grossly overrated. I could continue my rant but I don't want to make this a Cowboys' thread.
I had similar thought. I am not sure what led to the 17th game, or when it occurred, but it has worn on the teams and added weather issues. you could take out a couple of the wild cards and improve the play. the fans of these 7th teams are excited, but overall does not help game. It also adds risk to injure key players on the teams who made it as div winners.
 

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Currently, the 14-team playoff format yields three blowout losses and exposes a pretender. New England, Philly, Pittsburgh and Dallas had no business being there. Dallas by virtue of the fact it plays in a weak division. If memory serves there were once four Wild Card games instead of six. That model seemed just about right.

Also, given the 17-week regular season teams like the Packers have a decided home field advantage playing outside in late January. There's this thing called 'acclimation'. It is real. It matters. Not to mention the 17th week is not much more than Bonus Week for players. A couple of other observations if I may.

To Eagles fans, as nice a guy as Jalen Hurts is he's not the answer. The Bucs showed absolutely no respect for the passing game. You'll never make it to the Super Bowl with Hurts as QB. Now I understand you have three 1st round draft picks. Make the most of it.

To my fellow Cowboys' fans, until the Joneses stop mismanaging personnel we'll never return to the Super Bowl. Moreover, Dak is not the answer. He's too erratic. And would the Vikings (or some other team) please take Kellen Moore aka Boy Genius. He's grossly overrated. I could continue my rant but I don't want to make this a Cowboys' thread.
Agreed. I like everyone else here love football, college more so than Pro. At some point, which I think is now, the product gets watered down too much. All mighty dollar is ruining quality of product. Go back to 16 games with 2 wild card teams. 1st weekend of playoffs, 2 wildcards play 2 lower seeded div. winners and move on from there. I fully realize this will not happen. I'm sure in a couple years they will play 18 games which will further diminish quality of product, especially if they don't increase roster size. Even with potentially increased roster size there are not enough good players to go around. We even see that today!
 
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LookSharp, Are you a Dallas fan from Philly? You seem to have the classic we lose so we are the worst team in the league thing down that Eagles fan always exhibit. Dallas won the NFC East and had a shot at the #2 seat for the playoffs going into the last week. How did they not belong in the playoffs? Contrary to what the idiot at NBC Philly said during the news after the Chiefs-Steelers game. The Niners did not whopped the Cowboys. I could not believe that is the word the Philly sportscaster used. Whopped = beat down If Dak knew the rules, slid sooner and gave the official the ball, they had a shot to tie the game with a TD and XP.
A TD and XP would have won the game not tied it, but yeah was definitely not a beat down
 

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The 7th playoff slot made Week 17 pretty exciting.
Last year, the Colts (7) only lost by 3 to Buffalo. The Bears (7) lost by 12 to the Saints. Not really a blow out.
Let's give a few more years before declaring it a failure.
 

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The Cowboys played at home in a friendly loud stadium. If the game was played in SF I believe the 49’s would have won by two, maybe three scores.
Niners fans invaded Dallas like the Steelers fans. The place got loud for big plays by the Niners. SF winning by 2 or 3 scores at SF does not equal a WHOPPING based on yesterday's game. If San Fran had numerous TD drives like the first one where they scored a TD, SF whopped Dallas would have been the correct commentary. SF kicking 3 FGs does not equal whopped. They game could have got ugly early and did not because they had to settle for FGs. SF did nothing in the second half. They got their last TD when they started the drive on the Cowboys' 26. Sorry, I did not witness an *** whopping. What I witnessed was an undisciplined team committing dumb penalties and a QB that does not know the ref has to touch the ball before it is snapped to go along with typical McCarthy game management. The Eagles got whopped by the Buccaneers as expected and Dallas lost because of McCarthy/Moore/Prescott buffoonery. If I was the NBC Philly sportscaster, I would have went with the clown show ending by Dallas instead of whopped.
 
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Currently, the 14-team playoff format yields three blowout losses and exposes a pretender. New England, Philly, Pittsburgh and Dallas had no business being there. Dallas by virtue of the fact it plays in a weak division. If memory serves there were once four Wild Card games instead of six. That model seemed just about right.

Also, given the 17-week regular season teams like the Packers have a decided home field advantage playing outside in late January. There's this thing called 'acclimation'. It is real. It matters. Not to mention the 17th week is not much more than Bonus Week for players. A couple of other observations if I may.

To Eagles fans, as nice a guy as Jalen Hurts is he's not the answer. The Bucs showed absolutely no respect for the passing game. You'll never make it to the Super Bowl with Hurts as QB. Now I understand you have three 1st round draft picks. Make the most of it.

To my fellow Cowboys' fans, until the Joneses stop mismanaging personnel we'll never return to the Super Bowl. Moreover, Dak is not the answer. He's too erratic. And would the Vikings (or some other team) please take Kellen Moore aka Boy Genius. He's grossly overrated. I could continue my rant but I don't want to make this a Cowboys' thread.

By your "logic", the years when a dominant team steamrolled through the playoffs indicated that there really was just one team that year that deserved to be in the playoffs.

When you start your own league you can just declare the dominant team in the regular season the playoff champion.

Oh, but there are years that the seemingly over matched teams do win games. It's difficult to win on the road as an underdog, but it happens. How about those 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers!

And yep, since your "analysis" of the playoff games makes no sense, you may as well retitle the thread and make it a Cowboys thread........
 
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By your "logic", the years when a dominant team steamrolled through the playoffs indicated that there really was just one team that year that deserved to be in the playoffs.

When you start your own league you can just declare the dominant team in the regular season the playoff champion.

Oh, but there are years that the seemingly over matched teams do win games. It's difficult to win on the road as an underdog, but it happens. How about those 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers!

And yep, since your "analysis" of the playoff games makes no sense, you may as well retitle the thread and make it a Cowboys thread........

First off, why be snarky. It's unbecoming.

Second, those Steelers were tied with the 4th best record at 11-5 but bumped down to the lowest seed because they lost the conference tie breaker to the Bengals. So they were hardly an "overmatched team." Something happened in 2002 which allowed teams like the 2005-06 Steelers to get into the playoffs.

Let's rewind. In the first 11 years of the 12-team playoff format seven number one seeds and two number twos won the Super Bowl. That's 82%. Ever since then only four top seeded teams have won. Why. Divisional dilution. In 2002 the NFL expanded from six to eight divisions. So now the playoff pool usually consists of strong teams on the high and low ends of the seeding, along with weaker divisional champs in the middle. Reinforcing that notion, the #3 Cowboys (nearly ranked #4) lost to the #6 49ers.

Back to having too many teams in the playoffs, just consider the scores, man. #3 Bills 47 #6 Pats 17; #2 Chiefs 42 #7 Steelers 21, and #2 Bucs 31 #7 Eagles 15. That's one six and two seven seeds getting absolutely walloped.

How's that for a Cowboys' thread.
 
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GregInPitt

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First off, why be snarky. It's unbecoming.

Second, those Steelers were tied with the 4th best record at 11-5 but bumped down to the lowest seed because they lost the conference tie breaker to the Bengals. So they were hardly an "overmatched team." Something happened in 2002 which allowed teams like the 2005-06 Steelers to get into the playoffs.

Let's rewind. In the first 11 years of the 12-team playoff format seven number one seeds and two number twos won the Super Bowl. That's 82%. Ever since then only four top seeded teams have won. Why. Divisional dilution. In 2002 the NFL expanded from six to eight divisions. So now the playoff pool usually consists of strong teams on the high and low ends of the seeding, along with weaker divisional champs in the middle. Reinforcing that notion, the #3 Cowboys (nearly ranked #4) lost to the #6 49ers.

Back to having too many teams in the playoffs, just consider the scores, man. #3 Bills 47 #6 Pats 17; #2 Chiefs 42 #7 Steelers 21, and #2 Bucs 31 #7 Eagles 15. That's one six and two seven seeds getting absolutely walloped.

How's that for a Cowboys' thread.
First of all, saying that teams that won games down the stretch to get in the playoffs "had no business being there" is snarky. So why would you not expect a similar response?

Secondly, there are upsets by underdogs, and the home field is a big advantage in the playoffs. The Steelers winning every game on the road in 2005 included upsets, which is why very few tail end wild card teams make it to the Super Bowl. But yes the 2005 Steelers sure were not the worst wild card team to ever make the playoffs.

And your "analysis", really hindsight of this years games that featured some lopsided scores, does not justify a blanket statement about having too many teams in the playoffs or saying that the losers of those games "had no business being there". Teams just have bad days and losing the turnover battle also results in lopsided scores. And in case you haven't figured it out, NFL football is about making money, and playing more playoff games makes more money for the owners and the players.

So yes, when you start your own league you can just declare the dominant team in the regular season the playoff champion, or limit the teams in the playoffs. But until then the NFL and most fans want more games and the extended season that the expanded playoffs facilitate.

Now, back to the Cowboys.
 

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I think the cowgirls should be in it every year. They are America’s team after all. And watching them lose just makes it feel more like playoff season. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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