Trevor Bauer finally gets to tell what happened
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You follow baseball a lot closer than I do. Does he ever play again in the MLB in your opinion? Secondly, do you think he should be blacklisted?
I don’t think he ever plays in MLB again.
As much as I can’t stand him, I don’t think he should be blacklisted.
We don’t have the ability to judge, but the Bible does tell us as brothers and sisters in Christ to hold each other accountable as we will all be judged. I’m sorry, but this whole idea of no one having any right to tell anyone else whether they are right or wrong is why progressive “Christianity” that is absolutely undermining the word of God. Sin is sin, and God calls us to hate sin. In no way are we “judging” someone else for holding them accountable for their sin. In the same way it’s not loving for a parent to continually enable their drug-addicted child, it’s not loving for us to turn a blind eye and not call out someone else’s sin for what it is. As a matter of fact it’s the opposite of love. I can agree it may not be our business to know personal details of someone’s life they aren’t willing to share, but this idea that “it’s not our place to tell others when they’re right or wrong” is just a lack of biblical and moral foundational truth. And before I get my head bit off, I too sin much more than I would like and need accountability for that in the same way everyone else does.
As I mentioned, I am an Indian's fan. Indian's payers and fans struggled with him. I am not a fan but I agree he shouldn't be blacklisted and also agree that his MLB career is over. As much as I don't like him, it's a shame. I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
Well, the way this seems to be shaping up, it appears that the false accusation(s) regarding him have given some people the leverage to banish him forever mainly because they find him personally odious and not due to anything he's done. If that's what his boils down to, then it sets a terrible precedent.
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I agree wholeheartedly. Where would any of us be if the freaky details of our bedroom became front page news for the world to judge. If the guy committed no crime and this behavior was consented to, what is he being banished for? It's like banishing Tiger from Golf because he had sexual behaviors that is not considered wholesome to some. I am not a big fan of baseball and part of that is all of the so-called "unwritten rules" of the game. If they are not written, who came up with them? With that being said, Bauer should sue MLB and its teams for collusion. The guy was a top notch pitcher. There is no reason he should not be pitching in the major leagues with some of the guys they trot out there. Heck, the Braves should sign him up given their shaky starting pitching. I didn't like Bauer much and the image he portrayed on the mound, but this is bogus and all these excuses to keep the guy out of the game are just lame.
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There's nothing about this guy that I like, but apparently he's being cancelled under false pretenses, the difference between legal culpability and objectionable personal behavior. I just wish the people engineering this would be honest about their motives, that's all. Of course, they don't want to bring morality into it. Too hard to gain a consensus in this relativistic world.
They can object all they want, but they can't legally collude to keep this man out. See Colin Kaepernick case. .....and Bauer has much more compelling reason that more people (jurors) would be willing to accept than Kaepernick did. If I were a part of Bauer's legal team, I would sue MLB and their team for a billion dollars and tell them take that for your morals. Bauer is only 32 years old. Barring injury, he would have 8-10 years of prime earning potential as a top notch MLB pitcher. With salaries rising as they are, he could earn close to half that billion dollar figure. I would file it while he is still in the news and let the MLB figure it out from there. If MLB wants to pay Bauer off to go away like the NFL did with Kaepernick, let them.
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Wow & if true just how many garnet necks threw him under the bus?
oh, ‘bout the same number of pea brains that threw the Duke LAX team in the sewer.
Can’t do it. Even in cases like this where it’s conclusively shown that there was no sexual assault of any kind, to pursue any repercussions against the one who made the false allegations is somehow victim shaming or something. Even though they are in a victim of anything.
Trevor did pursue repercussions against her. He countersued in his answer to her civil complaint against him. That's why it was settled with no money to either side.
That's not repercussions at all. She's walking away totally unscathed. She ought to go to jail.
Repercussions are a consequence. What consequences has she faced from falsely accusing a man of sexual assault, in the process destroying his career while he was in prime and wrecking his reputation?
I never said that she faced any. Just that he pursued. There appears to have been fault found on both sides, which is why the civil case ended the way it did. He was never formally charged, as happens in a majority of these types of cases. Usually you will only see charges against the accuser if charges are actually filed, and there is some form of adjudication/plea/etc and it's found later that it was a false allegation.
Let's not forget that it's not just one accuser. There have been others. As I said before, he has certain likes. He needs to find a small circle who share those likes, establish ground rules, and go from there. He needs to stop doing this with random women on basically the first date. The one night stands also need to make sure they are clear as to their ground rules.
At this point, for the majority of the parties, it's over and it's time to move on.
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But she made false accusations. As is typical and discussed previously in this thread (or the Tucker thread) and indicated somewhat in your post, these false allegations, even after they are shown to be false people tend to qualify the fact they are false with some statement questioning the character of the accused. As with Tucker..."well, even if he's not guilty he still...blah blah blah." People are doing it with Bauer. "Well, the allegations are false but he's a weird dude. Prickly in the clubhouse. Has certain reputation with women" etc. Matt Araiza was faced with a similar situation.
In no case does the one who lied ever face any serious repercussions. It's not enough to de-incentivize it. There needs to be punishment. Until that's the case, there's nothing stopping women from going fishing. With the system as it currently is, there's no reason they shouldn't do it. If they get away with it, they score a pay day. If they are exposed as liars., no big deal. Everyone "just moves on".
None of this even addresses the complete and total waste of time this is and the drain on resources for law enforcement.
Toss a few of these women in the clink and that should serve as somewhat of a deterrent.
I get that. But as I said, you usually won't see false allegations charges brought against an accuser unless charges are actually filed against the accused and there is some kind of legal proceeding as a result. We may not like it, but it's the way it is.
Part of LEO's job is to investigate allegations. Some turn out to be valid, some don't. That's the way the job goes.