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There is another video of her chasing a man down the street screaming “Give It To Me”, “Give It To Me”!
Like I said in my group thread, I hope those cops packed a lunch : She gonna do that schhit all day
You see what you did, Valerie? Do you see?!
I’ve got it. Couldn’t figure out how to post it
My wife was texting me about it while watching it live from the hospital. They were laughing about it and then realized, ‘crap, she’ll be admitted here in a few hours’.
They were impressed that despite being being high as a kite and having been tased, she maintained perfect balance on the cruiser.
They were impressed that despite being being high as a kite and having been tased, she maintained perfect balance on the cruiser.
I’ve heard that if you see someone completely naked in public, stay far away because they can be extremely dangerous. They’re in such a drug induced state or complete mental breakdown there’s no telling what they’ll do. A naked man in Florida several years ago attacked somebody and started eating the victim’s face before he was finally subdued.
Several years ago a big black naked guy was running down the street with with a cop chasing him on foot in Jackson, TN. He ran right across in front of my car. The cop got behind him with his night stick and hit him across the cheek of his butt. It opened up a blood red cut. He then went after his knees with it. Neither phased him. He turned on the cop and went after him like a bear. By then other cops arrived and got him subdued. The next day I looked it up and he died in the ER from a drug overdose.
The premise, "Only in Tupelo," is demonstrably false. Almost a daily occurrence in West Crackson.
I love and support our boys in blue, but you'd have to be an idiot to be a cop these days (unless nearing your pension). If that had happened in Minneapolis, the cop would likely have his life turned upside down.
I thought he handled it very well
Me too, but we're not social justice lunatics. Nor do those types have much of a footing (yet) in most of the 'Sip.
I know I would be the easy thing to blame in this situation. So for the record I had nothing to do with crazy lady.
Schizophrenia
I'm curious why you would think this? I'm no expert on police procedure but it appears to me the police in this video did exactly what society wants them to do: de-escalate a potentially very dangerous situation using the minimum amount of force necessary, and in doing so kept everyone involved as safe as possible.
Had the officer(s) proceeded to murder the perpetrator (as in Minneapolis), then yes their life would have been turned upside down.
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That's my guess, possibly combined with going off prescribed drugs and/or mixing them with illicit drugs/alcohol.
Wow that is a helluva take.
If what happened on the video took place in Minneapolis instead of Tupelo, there is 0 reason to think the cop's life would be turned upside down. The officer appeared calm through the entire process, he tried to talk the woman down from the cop car, he waited until she was on the ground to tase her, and he did not look to be aggressive when cuffing the woman. She continued to act unpredictably while handcuffed and they did not react with aggression.
I am far from an expert, but nothing the cops did seemed inappropriate or dangerous for themselves or the woman. What in that video makes you so confident the cop's life would be turned upside down if it happened in Minneapolis?
No way we need to go down this path today, but if anyone watches the documentary about "the incident" in Minneapolis, it is eerily similar to this one. It shows (previously unseen) bodycam video from a different angle of the MN cop's method of restraint on a similar drugged out potentially violent whack job. It's exactly the same as shown here. Which is exactly the same as shown in the police manual. Knee to the rear of the shoulders.
If the lady in this video in Tupelo dies of a drug-induced heart attack on the way to the hospital, God help this cop. I hope that doesn't happen.
Will Clinton take one for the team?
So you say there is no need to go down this path today, but it isnt to the person who wanted to go down this path today. Instead, you said it to someone who responded by questioning the person who wanted to go down this path today.
I mention this because I see it on here a lot- complaints about opening a can of worms that arent directed at the person who opened the can.
Anyways, you dont want to go down this path today, yet you absolutely push us further down this path with the rest of your post.
To respond to your claims...
- I dont wear glasses, but apparently I dont have good enough vision to clearly see that the Tupelo cop is restraining this woman in 'exactly the same' way as Chauvin restrained Floyd. I honestly cant tell if this Tupelo cop's knee is on her back, her shoulder blade, her shoulder, or her neck. Apparently you can, even though the video is a bad angle, shaky, and 60' away. To me, it looked like his knee was on the woman's back.
- Take a moment to realize you are accusing a police officer of kneeling on a woman's neck in the exact way that a cop did a few years ago which killed a man. Remember all the law enforcement who said that style of restraint is not acceptable.
Ok, so keeping that in mind, are you really wanting to continue to claim this Tupelo officer did exactly the same thing? Thats a tough position to hold.
- Yes I see you are saying the Tupelo cop did everything by the book and therefore Chauvin also did everything by the book. If you dont want to claim the Tupelo cop was improperly restraining the woman, you are then claiming that Chauvin properly restrained Floyd. Holy hell, no wonder you dont want to go down this path today.
The comments above arent 'gotcha' comments or anything like that. They are basic assessment of your comments so it is easy to follow what you are claiming(while we dont go down this path, of course).
There is a way to not blame the Tupelo cop for dangerous restraint and also not excuse a convicted murderer...just accept that the restrained people werent restrained in the exact same way.
You can see the woman's head and neck is nowhere near the officer's knee as he places it on her back.
Trial testimony below. I did not follow the trial closely and do not know if Dr Tobin was discredited or anything like that, but I am guessing he wasnt...
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Keep her on speed dial for the Diamond Dawgs.
All I said TO YOU (purposely, to avoid this...) was "Watch the documentary." Your response then was to show the only photo released of Chauvin to the public. The reason I said to watch it and get informed was because there is A LOT of other information that the public didn't get, including videos from different angles that look like Chauvin was following the correct procedure, which the public wasn't allowed to see. You can form your own opinion as to why that is.So you say there is no need to go down this path today, but it isnt to the person who wanted to go down this path today. Instead, you said it to someone who responded by questioning the person who wanted to go down this path today.
I mention this because I see it on here a lot- complaints about opening a can of worms that arent directed at the person who opened the can.
Anyways, you dont want to go down this path today, yet you absolutely push us further down this path with the rest of your post.
To respond to your claims...
- I dont wear glasses, but apparently I dont have good enough vision to clearly see that the Tupelo cop is restraining this woman in 'exactly the same' way as Chauvin restrained Floyd. I honestly cant tell if this Tupelo cop's knee is on her back, her shoulder blade, her shoulder, or her neck. Apparently you can, even though the video is a bad angle, shaky, and 60' away. To me, it looked like his knee was on the woman's back.
- Take a moment to realize you are accusing a police officer of kneeling on a woman's neck in the exact way that a cop did a few years ago which killed a man. Remember all the law enforcement who said that style of restraint is not acceptable.
Ok, so keeping that in mind, are you really wanting to continue to claim this Tupelo officer did exactly the same thing? Thats a tough position to hold.
- Yes I see you are saying the Tupelo cop did everything by the book and therefore Chauvin also did everything by the book. If you dont want to claim the Tupelo cop was improperly restraining the woman, you are then claiming that Chauvin properly restrained Floyd. Holy hell, no wonder you dont want to go down this path today.
The comments above arent 'gotcha' comments or anything like that. They are basic assessment of your comments so it is easy to follow what you are claiming(while we dont go down this path, of course).
There is a way to not blame the Tupelo cop for dangerous restraint and also not excuse a convicted murderer...just accept that the restrained people werent restrained in the exact same way.
You can see the woman's head and neck is nowhere near the officer's knee as he places it on her back.
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Did you know Chauvin wasn't the arresting officer? That the cop who arrested him was a black man, and that was before Chauvin arrived on scene?
Did you know Chauvin was the one who called the paramedics, 36 seconds after Floyd went to the ground? Floyd was foaming at the mouth and obviously struggling with the drugs that he had just swallowed (on camera) to avoid getting arrested (for the 9th time), so Chauvin called them in to help him. Did you know the cops gave him CPR, in an obvious effort to save his life - not end it, as it's been portrayed?
As I said, I didn't want to get into all this - but someone mentioned that the Tupelo scene reminded him of the Minneapolis scene, and I agreed. Lots of similarities.
I just think everyone needs to watch the doc and get fully informed. What happened is a tragedy all the way around, and it could have been avoided.
I give the cops credit for restraint. Also, it probably helps with de-escalation when nobody actually wants to have to lay hands on her...
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If exculpatory evidence exists, I presume it was presented during the murder trial? This isn't a rhetorical question or anything; I didn't follow the trial at all.
- I have seen pictures and video from other angles. What are you even talking about when you claim no other photos were released? People were recording it from multiple angles. Photos and video from other angles easily exist and existed more than 3 years ago too.
- Again, testimony from the trial...
- Chauvin being the arresting officer or not being the arresting officer has nothing to do with the crazy claim @greenbean.sixpack made. That is what I was responding to. This is simply about how someone was restrained and the wild claim that the officer would be in a circle of hell if it happened in Minneapolis.
- The color of the arresting officer in the Floyd disaster has nothing to do with my comments in response to @greenbean.sixpack.
- Chauvin calling the paramedics has nothing to do with my comments in response to @greenbean.sixpack.
- Officers performing CPR has nothing to do with my comments in response to @greenbean.sixpack. I will respond more to this one and say that yes, I know CPR was performed.
You seem to really struggle to stay on track as you brought up a whole bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with the initial wild claim as defense of that wild claim, or something related to that wild claim.
Step back and recognize that your whole post is various justifications of the Floyd disaster.
I posted screenshots that show the Tupelo officer was not on the woman's neck in the video. Its that simple- the two arent the same and trying to claim they are the same, or even similar, is disingenuous.
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