UNC Academic Fraud history compared to PSU "culture problem"

blion72

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I was curious about the history of this, and took a look at what actually occurred and what the NCAA did. I had always assumed that UNC fought the NCAA in court. Instead the plaintiffs were athletes claiming they had been cheated academically and the NCAA was responsible. The NCAA was dismissed from those cases.

What was interesting was that the NCAA levied penalties on UNC football leading to Butch Davis firing, but they never did anything to basketball. UNC BB was equally guilty. The UNC administration defended itself v NCAA in the normal process (I guess PSU did not know how to do that) and the NCAA ultimately concluded that the could not find evidence of UNC violating rules - even though there had been court cases by players that exposed the evidence for the NCAA. UNC argued with the NCAA that UMich and Auburn had done similar things and had not been punished. WOW - I will use that the next time the cop stops me for going 45 in a 40mph zone......gee officer nobody else gets stopped.

I am sure others on here know more on this, but Penn State never seemed to understand how to defend itself like this.
 
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BobPSU92

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The ncaa makes its living on men‘s basketball. unc = $$$$

PSU‘s leaderers chose to deflect and throw football under the bus. Defending the university was never on the table.
 
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The ncaa cares about sexual abuse. 🙄
Academics… ehhhh, not so much.
 

91Joe95

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I was curious about the history of this, and took a look at what actually occurred and what the NCAA did. I had always assumed that UNC fought the NCAA in court. Instead the plaintiffs were athletes claiming they had been cheated academically and the NCAA was responsible. The NCAA was dismissed from those cases.

What was interesting was that the NCAA levied penalties on UNC football leading to Butch Davis firing, but they never did anything to basketball. UNC BB was equally guilty. The UNC administration defended itself v NCAA in the normal process (I guess PSU did not know how to do that) and the NCAA ultimately concluded that the could not find evidence of UNC violating rules - even though there had been court cases by players that exposed the evidence for the NCAA. UNC argued with the NCAA that UMich and Auburn had done similar things and had not been punished. WOW - I will use that the next time the cop stops me for going 45 in a 40mph zone......gee officer nobody else gets stopped.

I am sure others on here know more on this, but Penn State never seemed to understand how to defend itself like this.

Don't forget the academic accreditation. PSU had theirs put on probation, UNC did not. Let that sink in.
 

Nitt1300

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Penn State did know how to defend itself. It chose not to.

One of the members of the Board of Trustees at the time.
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