University Athletic Compliance Organization

blion72

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my brother lives in CBus and works for a law firm that does quite a bit of work in higher ed and athletics. He also teaches sports law part time at tOSU. We were talking about how big the university compliance groups are compared to private industry, due to all their regulations. He said at tOSU they have a group that does nothing but deal with NCAA compliance reporting and responses. I asked him if he thinks the NCAA will even exist in a couple years, and he said none of the people they work with at OSU or their other univ customers think that the NCAA is dead. He said there is more reporting and compliance work now than there was even 5 years ago when he started at this firm. He said his firm has doubled their business in this segment of work.
 

GrimReaper

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Big surprise here. Both the NCAA and universities are bureaucracies and the one thing bureaucracies are good at is expanding and perpetuating themselves. If the presidents of member schools weren't the ultimate bureaucrats themselves, the NCAA would have been gone years ago.
 

blion72

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Big surprise here. Both the NCAA and universities are bureaucracies and the one thing bureaucracies are good at is expanding and perpetuating themselves. If the presidents of member schools weren't the ultimate bureaucrats themselves, the NCAA would have been gone years ago.
good point as most of the Presidents are actually tenured faculty, and if they are "fired" from the President role, they usually have a guaranteed spot on faculty and sometimes at an income for a period that is only slightly below their President's pay. Not very real world. I think the Purdue President is actually a former CEO in business and maybe that model is slightly less bureaucratic, although tough for even that type of President to turnover the culture. Smaller less known privates and smaller public universities that do not have infinite funding have to be a lot more business like as they may not have the backstop to prevent failure. Fact is we probably should see about 30-40% of the universities outright fail and close or massively transform to a small trade school. amazing we are not seeing this happen faster - COVID helicopter $$$ helped keep some of them going for a while, but ultimately we should see closures.
 

blion72

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Tosu has a compliance department. I don’t get it.
tOSU has several hundred people covering all parts of compliance and audit, which is typical of other schools their size. my brother says they have a team that just covers Cleary Act regs as an example. In private industry you would never see this. Title IX, HIPAA, FERPA, NCAA regs, state procurement, reporting, etc.
 

Midnighter

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I worked at PSU’s NCAA compliance office in the 90’s as a student. It was exactly two people - John Bove and his secretary (and me).
 
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PSUFBFAN

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Big surprise here. Both the NCAA and universities are bureaucracies and the one thing bureaucracies are good at is expanding and perpetuating themselves. If the presidents of member schools weren't the ultimate bureaucrats themselves, the NCAA would have been gone years ago.
It's called "sucking on the golden teat". Nobody does it better than a combined effort of university administrators and internal/external lawyers.
 
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Midnighter

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^ It is not that small these days.

I’m sure. We had a small office in Rec Hall. I created databases and filed compliance paperwork (like the form they used when recruits would visit - who their host was, their itinerary, etc.). Remember seeing Courtney Brown’s and really hoping we would land him.
 
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