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Trojanbulldog19

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Dak won't win a super bowl. Since he locked up his contact with Dallas for the foreseeable future. Dallas just doesn't have the mindset to win it. They have talent all over on offense and they get shut down so easily at home. Receivers running in to each other on routes. Line like Swiss cheese with all the starters. And dak even though he has played really great in spots this year and his career, he did not play that great when it mattered tonight. Bad decisions snd bad throws when guys were open.
 

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That contract they gave Zeke was full retard

they should have let him go and then spread that cap hit out among four or five players.
 

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The Dak / McCarthy combination is not going to win much. I bet I listened to 10 guys breakdown today’s game. 7 or 8 of them picked or leaned SF.

Dallas team this year seemed like a paper tiger. Their first game of the season was arguably their best game all season. They roughed up on some bad teams too.
 
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It Is unpopular but Dak didn’t play well in the truly big games here either. Bama 2014 and Ole Miss 2015 come to mind, where there were big things on the line.

He still has played well and won a lot of games.
 

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It Is unpopular but Dak didn’t play well in the truly big games here either. Bama 2014 and Ole Miss 2015 come to mind, where there were big things on the line.

He still has played well and won a lot of games.

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Just about every drive he would end up in first and 20, or first and 15., or first and 25, because of his damn team being so unorthodox and having zero discipline. It's kind of difficult to overcome that constantly the entire game especially against a strong team.
 

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Dak won't win a super bowl. Since he locked up his contact with Dallas for the foreseeable future. Dallas just doesn't have the mindset to win it. They have talent all over on offense and they get shut down so easily at home. Receivers running in to each other on routes. Line like Swiss cheese with all the starters. And dak even though he has played really great in spots this year and his career, he did not play that great when it mattered tonight. Bad decisions snd bad throws when guys were open.

It will be really tough even with the best team in the league if the refs continue to hate them this much.

Next year probably isn't a great year for Dallas, but after that they can definitely improve. Zeke and Jaylon Smith will still be on the payroll next year, but not after that. Have a good couple of drafts and they should be the best team in the league. Have to rebuild that OL.
 

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Some blame can be placed on Dak but his teammates especially his offensive line don’t do him any favors.
 

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It will be really tough even with the best team in the league if the refs continue to hate them this much.
Come on bro. This is the type of take that proves your bias. At some point you have to blame Dallas when the stat was so lopsided.
 

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Smoked Toag;[URL="tel:2011440" said:
2011440[/URL]]It Is unpopular but Dak didn’t play well in the truly big games here either. Bama 2014 and Ole Miss 2015 come to mind, where there were big things on the line.

He still has played well and won a lot of games.


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Dak won't win a super bowl. Since he locked up his contact with Dallas for the foreseeable future. Dallas just doesn't have the mindset to win it. They have talent all over on offense and they get shut down so easily at home. Receivers running in to each other on routes. Line like Swiss cheese with all the starters. And dak even though he has played really great in spots this year and his career, he did not play that great when it mattered tonight. Bad decisions snd bad throws when guys were open.

Dak was pressured the whole game. He wasn't the problem. The defense played one half. Lamb caught 1 pass. The penalties had Dak behind the 8 ball the whole game. They didn't even let their best RB touch the ball the 2nd half. That's as poorly coached a team as you'll see. It resembles tits ownership.
 

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Trent Dilfer, Nick Foles, Eli Manning (2x), Brad Johnson, and a whole bunch of other QB’s way worse than Dak have SB rings. It takes a lot more than a good QB to win the big one. Dak just needs to get out of Dallas. He’s got plenty of career left after this contract expires…will still be in early 30’s with a chance to hit the market in 2024 or 2025.
 

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In 11 years with the most talented QB in the history of the league, McCarthy won one super bowl, that's Bobby Cox or Ron Polk worthy.
 

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Agree. Dak is plenty good enough to win a Super Bowl. But that franchise has been a cluster17 ever since Jerry fired Jimmy Johnson and I don't see that changing any time soon.
 

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Come on bro. This is the type of take that proves your bias. At some point you have to blame Dallas when the stat was so lopsided.

Oh, Dallas definitely deserves some of the blame. But I just watched those refs make calls against Dallas multiple time on very different "penalties" that they called the opposite when the other team did the exact same thing. And it's been that way all year. Hard to win a Super Bowl that way.

The subtext that most are missing is that Dallas spent the last two weeks calling out the refs, in a way that surely was calculated and from the top as no one walked it back and comments came from top players and from coaches. It clearly was a calculated attempt to recieve fairer treatment in the playoffs. And well, as any State fan could have predicted, the refs responded by opening the game with an even deeper and dryer dicking than normal. Hell, they even ignored a clearly bounced pass....until the receiver fumbled it and Dallas recovered, at which point "by discussion" they discovered it was an incomplete pass after all. So whichever ref saw it just forgot to blow the play dead? Come on. And of course the commentators covered for the refs. One of those offsides on D was a clear false start, the OL moved his entire leg from his stance to all the way behind him before the DL even twitched, it was OBVIOUS and not a word from the booth about the blown call. Also saw Parsons get arm choked around the neck and no call either.
 

Mr. Cook

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The Jerry Jones run Dallas Cowboys will certainly will not win a SB because...

He won't step aside from meddling with the quality of the personnel and the football being played on the field, nor will he refrain from being in the media spotlight. THAT SAID, where Jerry has succeeded is in marketing the brand that is the Dallas Cowboys and increasing the value of the franchise several times over since acquiring the team (from $150M for what he purchased the team in 1989 to $6.5 Billion based on 2021 valuation)

In short, the definition of "winning" depends on the criteria that one measures winning

Edited to say either: 1) "Currently Run" Jerry Jones Dallas Cowboys -- or -- 2) "...certainly will not win another SB until Jerry is gone..."
 
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Trojanbulldog19

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Dak was pressured the whole game. He wasn't the problem. The defense played one half. Lamb caught 1 pass. The penalties had Dak behind the 8 ball the whole game. They didn't even let their best RB touch the ball the 2nd half. That's as poorly coached a team as you'll see. It resembles tits ownership.
That's just a little biased towards dak. There were plays there tonight he didn't make. Yeah he didn't have much help but he wasn't helping much either. He was behind on several throws or missed the open receiver when he wasn't rushed. The whole team including dak sucked
 

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"The Jerry Jones Cowboys" won Super Bowl 27, 28, & 30. Please explain?
 

Trojanbulldog19

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Trent Dilfer, Nick Foles, Eli Manning (2x), Brad Johnson, and a whole bunch of other QB’s way worse than Dak have SB rings. It takes a lot more than a good QB to win the big one. Dak just needs to get out of Dallas. He’s got plenty of career left after this contract expires…will still be in early 30’s with a chance to hit the market in 2024 or 2025.

I agree with that he is plenty good but the players that Dallas has around him they don't show up ready to play in big games. Since he just signed a big contract in Dallas he's there for a while
 

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Agree. Dak is plenty good enough to win a Super Bowl. But that franchise has been a cluster17 ever since Jerry fired Jimmy Johnson and I don't see that changing any time soon.

Precisely. He won’t win one in Dallas. That much is certain.
 

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I agree with that he is plenty good but the players that Dallas has around him they don't show up ready to play in big games. Since he just signed a big contract in Dallas he's there for a while

He’s there 3 more seasons, tentatively. He can demand a trade of he gets fed up. If not, he can reassess before the 2025 season….will still only be 32 when the current deal runs out.
 

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How did the amazing 3 bama QBs do?

Burrow and Cincy got the W but it was against the Raiders, which Dallas could have beaten easily
 

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Dak has 1 playoff win in 6 years.

Getting a bye in the playoffs (like the Cowboys did his rookie year) should count as a win, because the Cowboys advanced to that round without even having to play.

Would it be better if Dak had been worse in the regular season, lost a few more games, but won a first round playoff game before losing to the Packers that year? Of course not!

Dak has made it to the divisional playoff round twice. It's totally fair to say he's 2-3 in the playoffs.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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They should have beaten the niners easily. They often say that this was one of the most talented cowboy teams in a long time.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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Dak won't leave Dallas. Not unless owner snd coach decides to go a different direction.

Dak loves Dallas and grew up a fan. He is pretty at his home town team.
 

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That's just a little biased towards dak. There were plays there tonight he didn't make. Yeah he didn't have much help but he wasn't helping much either. He was behind on several throws or missed the open receiver when he wasn't rushed. The whole team including dak sucked

He missed like 4 throws that weren't with people in his face. Got sacked 5 times. Had 6 dropped passes. When it's 3rd and 20 it's going to be ugly. That OL is bad. The coaching is worse. Dak is the least of the issues. You're a damn fool if you can't see that.
 

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That's just a little biased towards dak. There were plays there tonight he didn't make. Yeah he didn't have much help but he wasn't helping much either. He was behind on several throws or missed the open receiver when he wasn't rushed. The whole team including dak sucked

He did miss some throws but he also made a few big throws that were dropped or called back because of a penalty. The blame lies mostly with coaching staff who let them go out flat in the first quarter and made some really dumb calls after that like abandoning the run when they were having success. All Dak and his WRs needed was to get some rhythm going but the coaching staff got cute abandoning good runs and then ran passing plays right into the blitz. They only ran the ball 21 times and had 14 penalties and gave up 5 sacks. I don't know if Sir Aaron Rodgers could overcome that support.
 

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Trent Dilfer, Nick Foles, Eli Manning (2x), Brad Johnson, and a whole bunch of other QB’s way worse than Dak have SB rings. It takes a lot more than a good QB to win the big one. Dak just needs to get out of Dallas. He’s got plenty of career left after this contract expires…will still be in early 30’s with a chance to hit the market in 2024 or 2025.

It’s interesting how many average or young QBs make the SB compared to the highest paid QBs. Then you got the GOAT playing for about 2/3rd what these other guys make. You’ve got to wonder if there’s something to that, not always making every good QB the highest paid player when his contract is renewed.
 

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And the franchise had 2 playoff wins in 19 seasons when they drafted Dak.
 

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Dallas won't win a Super Bowl until someone else owns the team. Their failures start at the top.
 

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I get your point but there wasn't anything on the line that day. We were basically underdogs with nothing to lose. Later in the year vs. Bama when the SEC West title and playoff was on the line, he threw 2 redzone picks. The next year the Egg Bowl was essentially for a Sugar Bowl berth (back when the bowls actually still mattered a little bit).

But even still, yeah he had to win the LSU/aTm/Auburn games to get into that position. Just didn't finish. That was Mullen's M-O too. That may be where he learned it.
 

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Those games were huge in 2014 dipshit. Dak lost against Alabama because he ran into an NFL defense with high school receivers and an experienced, yet not super talented OL. He was huge in what at the time were 3 massive games.
 

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Those games were huge in 2014 dipshit. Dak lost against Alabama because he ran into an NFL defense with high school receivers and an experienced, yet not super talented OL. He was huge in what at the time were 3 massive games.
I thought you were going to take your own advice? Good Lord son, be gone.
 

PooPopsBaldHead

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You can't take a little criticism? You are the most negative 17er on this board outside of Irish. Your take is stupid. You are saying that nothing was on the line in 2014 until the Bama game and that's ridiculous. Every game is massive when you are undefeated in college football. Especially SEC West games against top 10 teams.
 
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