USC working on 7-figure NIL deal for Dylan Stewart

[18IsTheMan]

Getting ahead of it I guess.

I hate that this is what college football has become. Even our own folks know he doesn't give a crap about USC and would likely happily go play elsewhere next year if the money made enough sense to him.

 

[muscleknight]

Just go ahead and fold the power 4 into the NFL.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

Getting ahead of it I guess.

I hate that this is what college football has become. Even our own folks know he doesn't give a crap about USC and would likely happily go play elsewhere next year if the money made enough sense to him.

Can't rely exclusively on the ''Beamer Family Atmosphere''.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Just go ahead and fold the power 4 into the NFL.

A question becomes, how many can we afford? If Stewart gets a $1-1.5 million deal. Sellers "people" will surely think he's deserving of something comparable. And that sets the bar for any other big time recruits we get.

It eventually becomes analogous to the big market/small market team issue in pro sports. Here you're not talking about market size but booster support. We certainly lag woefully behind teams like Bama, UGA, Texas, Oregon, etc. We just don't have, and never will have, the kind of money those teams do.

Once you get into buying quality players. How many can we afford at one time?

 

[RUMMENIGGE]

Getting ahead of it I guess.

I hate that this is what college football has become. Even our own folks know he doesn't give a crap about USC and would likely happily go play elsewhere next year if the money made enough sense to him.

I hate that this kind of information goes public. This could cause a few players to transfer out of South Carolina looking for their million dollars.

On a different note Gilber Edmond Likely is glad he returned to Columbia instead being part of a one win Seminoles team.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I hate that this kind of information goes public. This could cause a few players to transfer out of South Carolina looking for their million dollars.

On a different note Gilber Edmond Likely is glad he returned to Columbia instead being part of a one win Seminoles team.

That's the other factor. Once you start investing this kind of money in one player, every other player who had played reasonably well starts to wonder about their payday.

And it's human nature for any athlete to think they're value is more than it is.

 

[Gamecock23]

Should he be "docked" some pay for his penalty for "shooting" someone on the field earlier this year?

 

[muscleknight]

The NFL has a salary cap so it would benefit us.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Should he be "docked" some pay for his penalty for "shooting" someone on the field earlier this year?

It's a good point, though. If players are making money, why can't they be fined for stuff like pro players?

 

[LonghornsGamecocks]

Getting ahead of it I guess.

I hate that this is what college football has become. Even our own folks know he doesn't give a crap about USC and would likely happily go play elsewhere next year if the money made enough sense to him.

It doesn't mean he doesn't give a crap about us. It just means he has a market value and he should get paid what he's worth while he can. I like my employer but I'll go somewhere else to maximize my comp in a heartbeat.

 

[18IsTheMan]

It doesn't mean he doesn't give a crap about us. It just means he has a market value and he should get paid what he's worth while he can. I like my employer but I'll go somewhere else to maximize my comp in a heartbeat.

It really does, though.

If you'll leave one place for another place for more money, then you really don't give a crap about the place you currently are. You might like it there. Might even be happy and like the people. But if you can drop it and leave for money, then you didn't really care about the first place. The Bible say "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be". If your treasure is money, then your heart goes where the money goes.

As it is here, with modern players their treasure is market value, so their heart is with whoever says they have the higher market value.

 

[will110]

It's a good point, though. If players are making money, why can't they be fined for stuff like pro players?

Mike Gundy implied Ollie Gordon would lose NIL money because of his DUI arrest before the season.

 

[will110]

It really does, though.

If you'll leave one place for another place for more money, then you really don't give a crap about the place you currently are. You might like it there. Might even be happy and like the people. But if you can drop it and leave for money, then you didn't really care about the first place. The Bible say "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be". If your treasure is money, then your heart goes where the money goes.

As it is here, with modern players their treasure is market value, so their heart is with whoever says they have the higher market value.

Ehhh while I agree in theory, in practice this just isn't really reasonable. If USC offers Stewart $1.5 million and Alabama offers him $1.7 million and he leaves, then yeah he didn't give a crap about us. But if USC offers Stewart $50,000 and Tennessee offers him $2.5 million, only a fool would turn that down. It's life changing money.

The system sucks.

 

[KingWard]

It's actually not a "system" at all. It's an environment.

 

[3USC1801]

Ehhh while I agree in theory, in practice this just isn't really reasonable. If USC offers Stewart $1.5 million and Alabama offers him $1.7 million and he leaves, then yeah he didn't give a crap about us. But if USC offers Stewart $50,000 and Tennessee offers him $2.5 million, only a fool would turn that down. It's life changing money.

The system sucks.

Not trying to argue but in reality, there isn’t a system or governing body. It’s a free-for-all with limited guidelines or restrictions. The few regulations in place do not level the playing field. In fact, it’s a situation where the rich programs have gained even a stronger hold on recruiting.

And, if Stewart were offered $200,000 more at Alabama, most would agree he’d be foolish not to take it. Why wouldn’t he? There isn’t any loyalty to a university anyway. That’s all in the past now. As fans, we are delusional if we think a highly sought after player is loyal to the team. The only way to overcome this mess is for universities/conferences to set contractual obligations and serious restrictions, including cap limitations.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

It's actually not a "system" at all. It's an environment.

Somehow, we have turned a free college education and all the associated perks into victimhood requiring retribution.
Might as well turn CFB over to the NFL for funding and make it professional football.
NFL teams can adopt their chosen college teams and maybe at least bring some stability to college rosters with binding contracts.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Ehhh while I agree in theory, in practice this just isn't really reasonable. If USC offers Stewart $1.5 million and Alabama offers him $1.7 million and he leaves, then yeah he didn't give a crap about us. But if USC offers Stewart $50,000 and Tennessee offers him $2.5 million, only a fool would turn that down. It's life changing money.

The system sucks.

If you leave one place for another place for more money, even a lot more money then that means you don't care that much about the place you're leaving. You care about money. This is how professional athletics work, where we know there is no loyalty. If you actually care about the place you are, you don't look around for options. If the place where you are is expendable to you, you don't REALLY care about it.

 

[3USC1801]

Somehow, we have turned a free college education and all the associated perks into victimhood requiring retribution.

Isn’t that the truth?!!!

But the can of worms has been opened and the only way forward is to either have professional players (junior NFL) or purely amateur conferences.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

This could be presumptive, but the headline read, "expected to command", doesn't necessarily mean he would get that amount.

 

[LonghornsGamecocks]

It's actually not a "system" at all. It's an environment.

It's a market that willfully pays for value, whether real or perceived. Very few regulations. Sounds like archetypal American capitalism to me.

 

[LonghornsGamecocks]

Somehow, we have turned a free college education and all the associated perks into victimhood requiring retribution.

I don't understand the victimhood argument. What do you mean by that?

 

[The Reel Ess]

Just go ahead and fold the power 4 into the NFL.

The NFL D League

 

[The Reel Ess]

Somehow, we have turned a free college education and all the associated perks into victimhood requiring retribution.
Might as well turn CFB over to the NFL for funding and make it professional football.
NFL teams can adopt their chosen college teams and maybe at least bring some stability to college rosters with binding contracts.

We've turned everyone into a victim. Everyone goes to work in what can best be described as an equal exchange of money for services rendered and the great majority feel they got the short end of that stick. They did not because they did it voluntarily. That said, it's only natural for a real performer to what what other real performers get.

I seem to recall the HBC was in favor of this. I don't think he foresaw it going this far.

 

[KingWard]

It's a market that willfully pays for value, whether real or perceived. Very few regulations. Sounds like archetypal American capitalism to me.

Well, it's certainly unregulated but I think it needs to be. College athletics now should (sadly) adopt the professional model.

Meantime, I am in agreement with @RUMMENIGGE 's point. In this unsettled landscape, there's nothing to be gained on the school's part by the premature disclosure of this pending transaction.