Adams kept going where he loved. Mom said no. About the other DTs, I got nothing. I know this for fact.
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There is a giant IF here, bit if Beamer is fired at that time, there are huge concerns with Tanner making the next hire.
Playing devils advocate, he's the guy who hired Muschamp, a guy walking away from torching UF (not to mention the extension problem) and followed it up with hiring a position coach.
I'm gonna wait and see, last years class wasn't large which dropped the ranking, but the quality was very good. and who knows what this class will end up. a little early for the doom and gloom. winning some games this year would give it a boost, because people outside the program are like many fans inside, they don't see how things happened or why, just that it happened. I see 2 years that were pretty good, and 1 year with huge amount of injuries and not much depth and still just missed a bowl game with a chance to win 7. but that's me, I cant live looking for the worst in everything, that's a lonely brutal way to live. I have better things to do
I've already said: make it a lifetime contract with scheduled raises and let the staunch fans and visiting fans comprise the bulk of our attendance. Let all your renovations reduce seating capacity. If you can't win the game the way it's being played, don't pay to play it.
I would much prefer you did the leg work and summarized for me.
Are we talking length of terms, or some other aspect?
Tanner is retiring at the end of June 2026. The President and BOT wanted to extend him by 4 years but he only would accept two….wanted to see the upgrades to WB and hopefully Founders completed. He wants to run his Foundation and frankly being AD is a thankless and difficult job.I would much prefer you did the leg work and summarized for me.
Are we talking length of terms, or some other aspect?
This may be one of Beamer’s most talented teams that he is going to have unless recruiting improves. I think LSU and OK are overrated We miss Daniels and Gabriel. We get Bama after Saban. We miss GA and TX who I think are the most talented teams. Clemson is no better than mid pack SEC. I think the schedule is starting to look better. He has real talent on this team. We need an 8 win season to start to move up in the conference. But Beamer just needs a bowl game to get him a contract extension but as a program we need more than 6 wins.
Not only is it thankless and difficult but it is impossible to make everyone happy.
Administration, coaches, donors, players and fans all have one common goal, they want to win.
But doing it in their own way and looking after their specific interests puts tremendous pressure on the AD.
Wait, so Jume of 26 puts it too close to 2026 season. IF (big if, I know) this year is a struggle, next year has pretty much the same schedule. This would set up the new hire for spring of 26, as Tanner is in the middle of packing.
If we have issues with his hiring and extensions of Muschamp/ Beamer, what kind of hire would a lame duck Tanner do?
I think the class last year ended ho hum because of the season we had. There were some good players in that class. I think this years class reflects the season we had on the field last year. Common sense tells me that we better pull off some upsets on the field this season. I agree with you that the first 2 years were pretty good. So many injuries at one position, the OL. was a head-scratcher. I understand what you are saying. However, many people are already pointing to the schedule as an excuse for this coming season. I think we play the same schedule next season. Beamer MUST find a way to post some "upsets" or our recruiting is going to suffer real bad. Do you disagree with that?
And regarding the schedule: ESPN says our schedule is the 11th most difficult schedule in the 16-team SEC conference. What does that tell us? We are rarely ever going to have an easy schedule. So, Beamer has to find a way to pull off upsets and win anyway.
We have no choice but to let BMW ride this for 10 years. He’s young, so there’s always potential he catches lightning. I’ve accepted this reality
Ok so we have the 11th most difficult schedule in the SEC, can’t change that, is what it is. Talk has been about Beamer, and I also like the guy. I agree with those who say to give him time. Haven’t seen anyone mention Loggains. He wasn’t a popular hire. last year it was the O line. Give him a pass. IF the O line is on par this year is he the guy that can call the plays to get us to 7-5, 8-4 or even better? Given we have a run game, receivers step up and we can keep the D off the field.
I think k we definitely have a choice. Hypothetically, if Beamer struggles over the next year or two, we have the choice of replacing him.
Football season can't get here soon enough.
I know all that. I am sure that Tanner does not expect or wants to make the next hire. That will be left to his replacement….who from what I’ve gathered is pretty well known. What was wrong with the Beamer extension?
I'd say it's still up in the air. My thought process was coming from a place where Beamer is going to struggle and be let go.
If he comes through, that extension will be thought of differently.
I will say, I don't think anyone was going to take Beamer from us at that time.
I, for one, believe Beamer needs to be given a chance to go into the 2025 season (his 5th) unless the team implodes this year. I have been consistent about that. I like Beamer, too. We don't know how Loggains will do if the OL is healthy. The key will be the OL giving Sellers time and Sanders at RB staying healthy. Time will tell if Loggains can get the job done. He was not regarded well in the NFL, probably why he was an unpopular hire. None of us know if he is the answer. Let's hope the defense is as good as our defensive players say they are. I like Clayton White as DC. Think he is a good one. We need to beat teams that have more player talent than us. Why? Because in this league, we will usually be outmanned. Let's hope Beamer shows to have such "coaching chops". If not, we need to get used to being a fairly low tier SEC team with Shane. Some have floated the idea that Shane should be given 10 years. That's unrealistic. Should be an interesting year.
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I mean Dawn Staley is a legend in the sport, even before we won multiple Nattys. People want to play for her because of her success as a player, and now as a coach. What has our football coaching staff done to warrant any of that? Just being honest here, we don't have much of a pedigree outside our coach being the son of one of the greatest...
"...must transform our OL and RB's into a productive 150-200 ypg running game..." This is virtually impossible and will never happen in Columbia.
BMW's car is correctly referred to as a "bimmer"
The BMW motorcycle is a "beamer"
Agree. I think the fact that he is the son of one of the greatest is one reasons our honorable ( I use that word loosely) hiring authorities thought it would be a good idea to hire Shane. The others are because he did pretty good as Recruiting Coordinator here and finally, they thought we were hiring our version of Dabo. All those reasons were faulty because:
1. The sons of coaching legends succeeding like their fathers did is rare. In fact, it would be a struggle to find one having good success over the long-term;
2. The players that came to USC when Shane was here did not come to play for him; they came to play for a legendary, proven winner....Steve Spurrier, who still had gas in his tank at that time. The magnet was Steve Spurrier, not Shane Beamer;
3. Dabo has produced at a SEC-type school in the basketball-first ACC. Producing in the best college football conference (SEC) is much more difficult to do than in the ACC. If Clemson ever is invited into the SEC, don't be shocked if Dabo decides to retire.
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He isn't cheating now, he has YellaWood and friends helping him get better recruits
We're talking about firing a coach 13 days before 1st game. I think gamecocks can play with, and beat any team on our schedule. I have no idea how many games, this team can win.
NIL is not going away. So, if our recruiting will suffer as a result, Beamer must show the coaching skill to make up for some of that disadvantage. If not, the only conference teams we will be able to compete with are Vandy and Miss. State, maybe Arkansas (though I expect them to rid themselves of Pittman).
Jimmy Rane was a customer of mine for about 17 years (2004 - 2021). We would be very fortunate to have a friend of the program the way that Auburn has with Jimmy.
My response meant that cheating isn't much of a thing any more unless you are Michigan. Now it is just a bidding war a lot of the times and we aren't going to match up with big NIL schools. Jimmy and YellaWood has been know to be a huge supporter of Auburn for a long time and I have no doubt that those big doners are going to do everything they can to help the cause.
Especially with Saban gone, you know they are chomping at the bit to get back on top of that rivalry.
I wish NIL was going away. But, it's not. And let's be brutally honest: we have no billionaire alumnus like Phil Knight willing to fund Garnet Trust. So, we have to adjust and try to create an advantage elsewhere, making the best of the situation. Who among us wants to compete with Vandy, Mississippi State, Kentucky and Arkansas for bottom dweller? I don't.
Coaching can make up for a talent gap to some degree but when a team stacks talent you have to be able too match talent. This NIL game is real. These HS athlete are getting large sums of money to attend schools. I know a HS db that has a 400K package. He's not a 5*!
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I agree. Let's be honest: we are screwed. Will we be fighting with Vandy, Miss St, Ark and Kentucky over who can stay out of the SEC cellar. Sad.
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