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konaki

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Shimmer003 said:
Nebraska fan base: “quit hiring recycled coaches and get a young up and comer!”

also the Nebraska fanbase “why are we thinking about hiring a guy that has never had P4 success before?!? Unserious program!”

No one here has any idea if this guy will workout here. Rhule is going to hire the guys he wants. Then he can own the results. If it doesn’t work out, we’ll be back in the coaching carousel. Which seems to get worse every year
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So what exactly do you want in our next DC? you've laid out what what every one else has voiced an opinion on. Are you in the group of I give up, I'll just let what happens happen and then voice my approval or disapproval later on. Where do you stand with the hiring of the next DC, do you want new blood, the old reliable or retread or just trust Rhule and we can blame him if it doesn't work out and we told you so crowd.

As for me I'm all in with the new fresh new approach for young new coaches with young minds with fresh new ideas that work that won't cost a zillion dollars from the start. You have these old retreads that are set in their ways that bring their same old friends and when it doesn't work out they refuse to fire them in many cases as we've seen and we get stuck with them for years. So where exactly do you stand?
 
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Shimmer003 said:
Nebraska fan base: “quit hiring recycled coaches and get a young up and comer!”

also the Nebraska fanbase “why are we thinking about hiring a guy that has never had P4 success before?!? Unserious program!”

No one here has any idea if this guy will workout here. Rhule is going to hire the guys he wants. Then he can own the results. If it doesn’t work out, we’ll be back in the coaching carousel. Which seems to get worse every year
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Need one or the other. Butler was neither. You either hire an experienced older DC, a younger DC with some experience, or a guy like the toledo guy, kind of both. Butler was a juco DC for a few years and 1 year at PSU. Then no one trusted him again, until Rhule.

This guy made it 5 years, which tells me he didnt just inherit some other guys players and then regress. So that is a positive. Not gonna lie, I like our DB coach right now and I'm kind of curious to see what he could do with Kehres. Toledo HC took the Uconn job. I'm guessing good players aren't following him. Maybe Kehres has a player or two he can bring with. Don't hate the idea of some hungry MAC guys moving up. Looks like they have a junior safety, sophomore LB, Junior OLB, and freshman center that all earned some type of all-conference honor.
 
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oldjar07

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dinglefritz said:
Relevant demonstrated success as a DC at the P4 level would be nice. The problems lie in Rhule’s seemingly warm seat and next year’s schedule. Even with the extension, I’m not sure outside assistants view him as untouchable.
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I mentioned those types and everyone says it's unrealistic. I mentioned the Texas Tech DC as a Tier 1 guy. And only making $1.25 million. This Toledo guy is Tier 2, still very solid, and essentially a home run.
 
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Harry Caray said:
I'm okay with giving a hungry young guy a chance, remember Pelini was only a linebackers coach for the Packers with no DC experience when we hired him. With his pedigree, some P4 team is going to give Kehres a chance soon, might as well be us.
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And that might be why Pelini struggled against established B1G OCs and couldn’t adjust when they kept gassing us with the same plays play after play.
 
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redwine65 said:
rhule will be around for some time, because the Lincoln office knows by now musical chairs every 3 years with coaches doesn't work..so rhule need to think long as hard about this dc because we can't do another project dc...I'd take leonhart, vt hc, cal hc, first..then either this guy or smu guy..
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When have we ever done the 3 year musical chairs
 
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konaki said:
So what exactly do you want in our next DC? you've laid out what what every one else has voiced an opinion on. Are you in the group of I give up, I'll just let what happens happen and then voice my approval or disapproval later on. Where do you stand with the hiring of the next DC, do you want new blood, the old reliable or retread or just trust Rhule and we can blame him if it doesn't work out and we told you so crowd.

As for me I'm all in with the new fresh new approach for young new coaches with young minds with fresh new ideas that work that won't cost a zillion dollars from the start. You have these old retreads that are set in their ways that bring their same old friends and when it doesn't work out they refuse to fire them in many cases as we've seen and we get stuck with them for years. So where exactly do you stand?
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I’ve always been a proponent of letting a head coach run the program. Let him hire and fire who he wants. The AD should never dictate who is on staff except for who the head coach is. When you start forcing coaches to hire and fire, you’re almost certainly doomed.

most of us as fans have no clue if the assistants are good hires. That includes coordinators. There is too much history and factors inside the building for us to know what is missing and what they need to succeed. So yeah…I’m on the side of let Rhule decide who he wants. This program has to be built in the vision of what he wants. Let him do it. Then if it doesn’t work, it’s on him and him alone.

that said, I fully support Rhule and will never say “I told you so”. I don’t understand the fans that insist on hating and tearing down the program. Heck, the last few weeks I’ve been called “Mrs Rhule” because I do still think he can get it done. He may not. And if I feel like it’s over, I’ll say so. But I’ve never not given a staff a chance in my mind at Nebraska. I’ve never said anything along the lines of “this is a terrible hire; they’re gonna fail, just watch”. That’s not how I’m wired. Support people. Give them a chance. But that chance is also the rope they can hang themselves with. I just find it funny that we have people insisting we need a certain type of hire while others want the exact opposite. We’re guaranteed to have toxicity related to hiring coaches when people want mutually exclusive things.
 
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Man Woman & Child

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Shimmer003 said:
I’ve always been a proponent of letting a head coach run the program. Let him hire and fire who he wants. The AD should never dictate who is on staff except for who the head coach is. When you start forcing coaches to hire and fire, you’re almost certainly doomed.

most of us as fans have no clue if the assistants are good hires. That includes coordinators. There is too much history and factors inside the building for us to know what is missing and what they need to succeed. So yeah…I’m on the side of let Rhule decide who he wants. This program has to be built in the vision of what he wants. Let him do it. Then if it doesn’t work, it’s on him and him alone.

that said, I fully support Rhule and will never say “I told you so”. I don’t understand the fans that insist on hating and tearing down the program. Heck, the last few weeks I’ve been called “Mrs Rhule” because I do still think he can get it done. He may not. And if I feel like it’s over, I’ll say so. But I’ve never not given a staff a chance in my mind at Nebraska. I’ve never said anything along the lines of “this is a terrible hire; they’re gonna fail, just watch”. That’s not how I’m wired. Support people. Give them a chance. But that chance is also the rope they can hang themselves with. I just find it funny that we have people insisting we need a certain type of hire while others want the exact opposite. We’re guaranteed to have toxicity related to hiring coaches when people want mutually exclusive things.
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So not unlike Rhule then, huh? I mean, considering he’s missed on most so far. Hell arguably his best assistant had to be hand fed to him by a podcast host
 
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Man Woman & Child said:
So not unlike Rhule then, huh? I mean, considering he’s missed on most so far. Hell arguably his best assistant had to be hand fed to him by a podcast host
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He isn’t trending well. But he’s still the coach. I think he can get it turned around. Maybe he won’t. Maybe he will. We’ll find out. I’m not a fan of quick firings. Nebraska isn’t built to overcome losing a recruiting class every 3 years to a coaching change. I’m not out on Rhule yet. You may not like that but I don’t really care. Does it make you happy to sit back, **** on the program and say “I told you so” until he’s gone? Because I’m sure you’ll be one of the first people to either hate on the next guy or **** on them at the first sign things aren’t going fast enough for you.
 
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He isn’t trending well. But he’s still the coach. I think he can get it turned around. Maybe he won’t. Maybe he will. We’ll find out. I’m not a fan of quick firings. Nebraska isn’t built to overcome losing a recruiting class every 3 years to a coaching change. I’m not out on Rhule yet. You may not like that but I don’t really care. Does it make you happy to sit back, **** on the program and say “I told you so” until he’s gone? Because I’m sure you’ll be one of the first people to either hate on the next guy or **** on them at the first sign things aren’t going fast enough for you.
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Yeah you’re right. We should definitely keep under-performers around to be sure we maintain those #113 recruiting classes.
 
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Man Woman & Child said:
Please baby Jesus let it be the former. I’d think he could have done better than Syracuse, even if it wasn’t Nebraska.
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I’m hoping it’s the former as well but I can’t get why Rhule would say no. Unless he absolutely wanted a 3-3-5 and Kehres wasn’t comfortable with changing to that. Idk. On paper he seems like a quality coach you’d want. My fear is we settle for Phil Snow.
 
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dinglefritz

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itseasyas1-2-3 said:
Until Rhule exorcised Snow from the scene, things will remain messed up.
Who wants the HC's lifelong friend babysitting his every move?

Again, Matt just doesn't get it.
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I was meh on this guy. I still would like a guy who has been a P4 DC. There’s a big difference moving up a level. I’m not sure how Rhule’s warm seat and next year’s schedule plays with potential candidates. This could get “interesting”.

No experienced DC is going to want Snow looking over his shoulder. I agree. He needs to go.
 
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HuskAir said:
Is Syracuse a more attractive program than Nebraska? Ouch.
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Vince probably watched some film on what NU has returning on defense then happened to look at next years schedule and said, "No effing way I'm gonna screw up my future in football by taking this job."

Also, if for some reason Rhule didn't think he was the man for the job, he might have said give Fran Brown at Syracuse a call since he coached for me."
 
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dinglefritz said:
He has to prove it in that time frame.
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My expectation is Dylan leaves so punting on 2026 (especially with tougher schedule) and no longer experienced QB. 2027 is 'oh, but we got a freshman QB so you can't expect much' PR fluff then 2028 if the wheels fall off is when a move could be made, Personally, seen enough that he isn't it, but that stupid extension delays the inevitable by 2 years barring home run assistant hires.
 
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itseasyas1-2-3 said:
I say 2 years Matt likely gone. He builds something to a certain middle level, then the thing starts to unravel.
Next years schedule will expedite the inevitable.
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Well, Dylan isn't coming back next year and we will have a new defense...the schedule is extremely easy and extremely hard...few in between. Any team with a coach in year 4 should be able to win 5-6, which isn't a complete implosion but 3-4 wins and he is probably fired next year.
 
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itseasyas1-2-3 said:
Until Rhule exorcised Snow from the scene, things will remain messed up.
Who wants the HC's lifelong friend babysitting his every move?

Again, Matt just doesn't get it.
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He gets it. He wants the DC to be a yes man who does thing the way Rhule wants. He is just a dumb coach who thinks he is always right, coaching a dumb sport, with dumb fans....but people waste a lot of time and money on it so these dumb people become rich people. I've been around coaches my whole life, they aren't professional minded people, they aren't doctors, lawyers, managers...they are intensely competitive people who don't want to get a real job. It is bad enough at amateur and high school levels, but some of these guys can at least have excuse that they want to help kids, these college level psychos are obviously in it for themselves and only themselves, they aren't introspective, they aren't intelligent...and in the case of Rhule, we aren't even sure he knows football that well...he doesn't call plays or coach a position.
 
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