TL;DR: Dak is about to get paid.. again.
WaPo: Jerry Jones has made a mess of Dak Prescott’s contract situation
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New Orleans will take Dak. Happily.
He’s gonna get a record contract from somebody, no matter what. He wants to be in Dallas…. But this franchise and fan base really doesn’t deserve him. He just had an MVP-worthy season with one WR and no running game, and he’s not a running QB…. And he would be a prolific one. But gets **** on every second of every day.
Ain’t no replacing the guy.
Standard for the Cowboys. They are now making the same mess with DeeDee Lamb. Gonna take a LOT more to sign Lamb longterm now than it would have 6 months ago. They are letting all these contracts play all the way out when everything keeps escalating. Dumb way to do business.
Jerry is gonna Jerry. Always. That dude could have won multiple Super Bowls if he'd gotten out of his own way and just been an owner and hired a competent team President and GM. Steps on his own dick more than anyone in professional sports
New Orleans or Tampa Bay would be great fits. He's gonna have numerous options, but those two are more ready to win now.
That would be a hell no.ESPN Radio earlier today was discussing the possibilities of Dak to the Raiders next season.
At this point in his career he’s got to be thinking about getting somewhere that he can be a contender (that doesn’t involve Jerry Jones).
Just say NO to New Orleans. Maybe you haven't spent any time in DFW, if you have, then you should understand.
These guys can live and travel anywhere they want to from Jan-Aug, it's not about the home town for the team. Free agency killed that myth like NIL and transfers are doing to college now
Seems like as good a time as any to also remind everyone that while playing the stupidest game of hardball imaginable with Dak, he’s also paying Trey Lance $8.4 million this year. Yes, that is correct, Jerry Jones is paying his 3rd string QB more money than at least 3 other NFL teams are paying their starting QB, and they are paying him $6 million more than they are paying the 2nd string QB (Cooper Rush - a proven and bona fide backup). The great Jerry Jones everybody!
If.....big if....he performs in pre-season then he becomes a very valuable asset for an unbelievable price. First preseason game didn't look good! Never forget Jerah's a wildcatter at heart. He'd rather risk the money and hit big than not swing at all. At this point in his life he's playing with F It money*****
He only becomes valuable if 2 better players go down in front of him, in which case its not going to likely matter.
Also, it’s the last year of Lance’s deal, too. Even if he briefly flashes at some point due to injuries or whatever, Dallas only has 3 options for 2025:
1) Franchise tag him and pay him $50 million next season, guaranteeing that Dak moves on elsewhere.
2) He hits free agency, and Dallas has to outbid everyone else. Again, assures Dak’s departure.
3) They let him go for nothing. Dallas throws a 4th round pick and $10-12 million in the trash for 2 years.
There’s no way possible for him to go from 3rd on the depth chart to a position that justifies option 1 or option 2. Just a dumb move all the way around. Almost as dumb as giving Zeke Elliott a record contract 3 years before they had to take him off his rookie deal. And dumber than not drafting a RB and bringing a decrepit Zeke back aGAIN to carry the workload with Rico F-ing Dowdle.
If he flashes in pre-season he will be a trade asset especially if a QB1 goes down. This is the QB position in the NFL....all organizations over value it because you can't win without a QB in the NFL.
Its as stated in the article. Jerry doesnt believe Dak can win a super bowl.
And the way they are set up with the cap. This is true. Their window to win has closed, or perhaps not completely closed... but its shutting quickly. The roster was built to win for 4-5 years and they couldnt get over the hump in the playoffs.
And the way they are set up with the cap. This is true. Their window to win has closed, or perhaps not completely closed... but its shutting quickly. The roster was built to win for 4-5 years and they couldnt get over the hump in the playoffs.
The quicker you realize they are not building the roster to win this year the better off youll be. Their roster was built to win for 4-5 years. Its basically shut now. They are manuvering pieces to set themselves up for another window to win in the coming years... Hence why they arent concerned about having Zeke back and why they arent concerned with Lance. Lance may or may not be part of their future. They arent trying to build the best possible roster they can for this season... they are trying to build the best possible roster this season WHILE keeping a keen eye on future years. This isnt a win at all cost year for the cowboys.
Im sure they have a plan for Dak in that window. Im sure they have a plan without Dak in that future, Lance may very well be part of that plan. This season seems to be a wait and see season by their off-season.. lots of teams have done that and do that in the NFL.... im sure at some point a decision will be made on what route they choose.
You Dallas folks are awful proud of that place. I don't see the big attraction. Concrete jungle, no trees, hot all the damn time.
Expand on this. He flashes in preseason against somebody else’s 3rd stringers and future scout team guys. Doesn’t change that he was unable to beat out Sam 17ing Darnold for the #2 QB job in SF, or beat out Cooper Rush for the #2 job in Dallas in over a year of time. He’s also a 4th year NFL player who has thrown something like 300 competitive passes since high school….the vast majority of which were against FCS competition in college. And again, he’s in the last year of his deal.
What’s somebody really going to give up for a 3rd string QB, in which they have no team control, who is completely raw and would have been jettisoned by 2 teams in 4 years? I’d say with near 100% confidence that they wouldn’t get anything close to a 4th round pick, which is what they gave up to get him.
I will ugly cry happy tears if this happens. Which means he will probably somehow go to the falcons.
Its not the worst gamble to take a shot on a former 1st round pick for a 4th rounder who battled injury and could still develop. Maybe they could have gotten it a little cheaper, but you dont know what the trade market was for the guy. Perhaps there was someone else offering a 5th rounder and Jerry wanted to kick the tires on him.
There have been far worse trades and worse contracts in the NFL.
There are only a handful of teams that can reasonable take on Dak and his contract demands next season. The falcons arent one of those unless they somehow manage to get rid of Cousins.
Rams, Giants, Bucs, Jets, Raiders, Vikings, Seattle, Saints
Seem like the only real places that can handle that contract, and even a few of those would take some wiggling around.. Unless teams like bears, panthers, colts, redskins, titans-- are willing to move on from highly drafted Rookie or 2nd years QBs
List of teams that would have zero interest due to having a better QB or are already paying a QB record $$:
Cincy, GB, Jax, Miami, Det, SD, Balt, Philly, Arizona, Cleveland, KC, Buff, Houston, Atlanta
List of teams that likely wouldnt due to young QBs:
Tenn, Chicago, Indy, Carolina, NE, Washington,
Counting Dallas if they pass-- thats 21 teams that just couldnt make it work $$$ and Cap wise-- or would have to make a major pivot from a QB they drafted
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Jones knows that selling drama is part of the Cowboy brand strategy. The truth is paying Dak more really doesn't matter at all to him. But having people talking all day about the Dallas QB... for weeks... months... priceless.
agree. In the article it states that jones doesnt beleive he can win a super bowl with Dak. Sure he's looking for alternatives... and if he cant find one.. he'll circle back
Jones won a few as GM and I honestly do not think he cares about winning a super bowl ever again. The business does not need it. He just gained $1B without winning one and saved about $100M not going to one.
Don't forget NO sunk a fortune into Derek Carr. Maybe they can convince Jerry to trade for Carr. I just don't know about Carr ever bring a quality QB but I guess somebody believes in him
He won 3 super bowls and made the cowboys to the most valuable franchise in all of sports. Regardless of this boards opinion of him... he'll be inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame and go down as one of the best owners of all time.
Even since his super bowl wins, he's kept the cowboys revelant and competitive in the NFL the majority of the seasons since (4 losing seasons in the last 20 years). He's far from the flop or failure this board thinks he is.
Great place for your career, horrible place to live... It's so far from anything remotely interesting to do outdoors. The houses are becoming row homes. The weather is atrocious. I lived there for nearly 15 years and looking back, I feel like a scientology wife that finally escaped the mothership.
facts. Just read up on that. He's a 50 million cap hit next season. So the saints unless they get really creative is a likely no go for Dak as well.
Probably need to cross them as a viable option off the list.. 22 teams that it would be really tough for Dak to land in
Dallas has the #8 highest Vegas odds for regular season win totals at 9.5. A lot of people certainly believe they are still very much built to win now. You always are built to win in the present when you have the QB position taken care of.
How does paying a 29-year old has-been RB $2 million for one year help with winning short term OR long term? Wouldn’t drafting a spry 21 year old in the 3rd / 4th round and paying him $2 million total over 4 years be the better play either way?
And how does giving up a 4th round pick and $8 million of cap space for a 3rd string QB who has no chance of making it as a QB in the NFL good for short term or long term?
These moves just can’t be defended. Real NFL GM’s just don’t do shít like that.
Lance is not part of anybody’s future as a QB.
The most optimistic outlook imaginable for him at this point is that he somehow evolves into a Taysom Hill type player who can be sprinkled into certain packages. But they don’t have Drew Brees or Derek Carr back there….they’ve already got a QB who can run a little bit. So it still doesn’t make sense. And they declined his 5th year option, so its pretty clear they have no long term plans for him being in Big D beyond this year, anyway.
That still doesn’t explain the moves above. They don’t save cap room or gain roster flexibility by either of these moves.
The plan for Dak should have involved extending him 2 years ago, so they’ve already failed in what they needed to do there. But yes, there’s some really crappy plan in place, I’m sure.
Lance was nothing more than Jerry trying to relive the glory of the Charles Haley trade from 1992. It failed. And no, he’s not part of the future. If he was, they would have picked up the 5th year option
Smart teams don’t “wait and see” on proven studs like Dak and CeeDee. Only Dallas continues to drag things out to the 11th hour. They only time they actually got an extension done early was with Zeke, which was the one time they shouldn’t have done it. Whatever the common sense move is, Jerry does the opposite.
. . . because Dak's done all he can do in Dallas. He needs a new environment.
In most games where it mattered during Dak's tenure, it was Dallas' defense that let them down, not so much the offense.
Correct. It is a business. An anology would be that he could get 100 "brand points" per year. He gets 90 brand points just by being competitive, having Jerry World stadium, the practice camp facility, merchandise, brand deals etc. Winning the super bowl would move him from 90 to 100 for an extra $100M in cost and potential player injuries. Is winning a super bowl a must? No. Is winning in the playoffs a must? Nope getting there occasionally is good enough. Do the playoffs and winning a super bowl give you a brand lift? Yeah, kinda, for about 10 months.
1. Michigan has the 10th best odds to win the national championship. Doesnt mean much does it. The cowboys are americas team. Lots of bets are made on teams because they are their team. The line equates that. Also the cowboys have the 22nd SOS.... the cowboys have the same odds to win the super bowl as the Packers and Jets.
2. Bridge season. They arent going all in, but they dont want to give up either. The want a veteran back. They got one.
3. Whether or not Lance is part of anyones future is yet to be known. And this deal was made seasons ago, not in the current. Lance has been far from the worst QB to play in the NFL or even be a backup.
4. Again extending Dak 2 years ago would have made it easier today without question. But was it the right thing is too early to tell. Again the cowboys with Dak havent been successful in the post-season. If the cowboys move on from Dak and are successful or more successful... or Dak in his later years regresses instead of progresses... then the cap space saved makes jerry look very good.
5. Plenty of teams have waited and had studs hold out because of contract issues. Look no farther than KC and Chris Jones. SF isnt playing wait and see on Aiyuk? Happens all the time. We also assume this is all Jerry Jones fault. He could have put more than 1 reasonable offer on the table that was or has been refused while these so called proven studs are seeking record breaking contracts..... MOST proven studs playing the QB position on their 2nd contract.. work a more team friendly deal to make the deal around them better... IF winning is a priority...we'll see if Dak is willing to do that.
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Hope those row homes have good AC, because that's their main attraction.
What's been shocking to me is discovering the sheer number of Americans who want that lifestyle....basically living inside, watching TV, going to work, eating at restaurants, owning an SUV, going to the gym, and taking kids to school and activities. It hit me how pussified our society was when I went in the new Rangers stadium in the summer, and was actually cold because of the AC blowing on me.
It’s behind a paywall so I didn’t read full article. But still, I’m going to call total BS that Jones actually said “I don’t believe I can win a Super Bowl with Dak”. That would be groundbreaking stupidity even for him, and it would be beaten to death by the talking heads on every sports blog and network there is.
So, maybe copy / paste the direct quote from the article, if you don’t mind.
Jones didnt say it. An executive that didnt want to be named.. no one spoke using their name in the entire thing
“I don’t think he sees himself winning the Super Bowl with this quarterback,” the executive said on the condition of anonymity, limited from commenting on other rosters by NFL contract language. “And, honestly, when I look at his roster, I agree with him. I wouldn’t want to pay [Prescott] $60 million, either. But at [Jones’s] age, what else is he going to do? Start over with a rookie next year? He doesn’t have three years to play that out.
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