Watch the UM game replay and listen to TFrank analysis - then draw your conclusions

[blion72]

I think if you watch the replay and listen to TFrank analysis you might draw some different conclusions. The idea that we were the small fast team and UM was the big team who bullied us is not factual. 70% of the UM runs went for under 4 yds and 23% were negative. UMich went to run because they had tried to play balanced and that was turning into problems. they adapted their plan, which was good. after Drew's fumble, they needed 12 plays to get 40 yds and a FG. their big runs were all busted assignments not bullying us. the closest they got to just making a hole was the final TD run where we had just turned it over. another poor decision.

you will also see that after Drew fumble, he stopped running and went into a shell, until the end of game drive. whenever he used his legs we were more likely to move the ball. it is a definite reality that the JF offense (no matter who the OC is) needs QB who gains run yds and WRs who can win battles.

i think we may have more NFL talent on our team than UMich, but UMich QB running is more of factor for them when needed. Our DL overall beat UM OL. the long run by Corum and the Edwards TD were both stuffed at the line, but in both the RB cut back and found an edge/gap that was more assignments than getting bullied.

Our OL vs UM DL was about what I expected, but what was not expected is that UM blitzed and played close to LOS (like other teams against us). they had played all year with a light box. much of the pressure on Drew was coming with extra pressure. they used some of the same blitz packages that have worked against us by other teams.

there were several very key plays that the game pivoted around. Of course not kicking PAT's was just mindless and I don't believe that was analytics. One of the more experienced analysts commented that even on the second one you could kick and make the score 24-16 = extend the game. he even said kick away and play DEF with 2 TO's and 1:46. you keep you team in the game by extending. I think we would have forced a punt by UMich had we taken that route.

 

[Alphalion75]

I think if you watch the replay and listen to TFrank analysis you might draw some different conclusions. The idea that we were the small fast team and UM was the big team who bullied us is not factual. 70% of the UM runs went for under 4 yds and 23% were negative. UMich went to run because they had tried to play balanced and that was turning into problems. they adapted their plan, which was good. after Drew's fumble, they needed 12 plays to get 40 yds and a FG. their big runs were all busted assignments not bullying us. the closest they got to just making a hole was the final TD run where we had just turned it over. another poor decision.

you will also see that after Drew fumble, he stopped running and went into a shell, until the end of game drive. whenever he used his legs we were more likely to move the ball. it is a definite reality that the JF offense (no matter who the OC is) needs QB who gains run yds and WRs who can win battles.

i think we may have more NFL talent on our team than UMich, but UMich QB running is more of factor for them when needed. Our DL overall beat UM OL. the long run by Corum and the Edwards TD were both stuffed at the line, but in both the RB cut back and found an edge/gap that was more assignments than getting bullied.

Our OL vs UM DL was about what I expected, but what was not expected is that UM blitzed and played close to LOS (like other teams against us). they had played all year with a light box. much of the pressure on Drew was coming with extra pressure. they used some of the same blitz packages that have worked against us by other teams.

there were several very key plays that the game pivoted around. Of course not kicking PAT's was just mindless and I don't believe that was analytics. One of the more experienced analysts commented that even on the second one you could kick and make the score 24-16 = extend the game. he even said kick away and play DEF with 2 TO's and 1:46. you keep you team in the game by extending. I think we would have forced a punt by UMich had we taken that route.

I can sum up your post in one word....."coaching".

 

[PSUFTG2]

The game was lost well before kickoff.
Without going into the weeds, the game was lost in preparation.

Michigan was VERY well-prepared - and immediately had a plan and adjustment for the two key things that became evident 10 minutes into the game (Michigan's Tackles couldn't handle PSU's pass rush, and PSU's pass game was completely inept) And they were prepared for, and made, the ideal adjustments. Clearly, they were anticipating both possibilities, and very well prepared to make the adjustments to win the game.
PSU? Absolutely clueless. Obviously. On both sides of the ball.

From the 2nd Q on, it was like watching a good "mouser" cat simply stalk and kill the mouse. PSU was not the cat in this scenario.

 

[MaconNitt]

I can sum up your post in one two words....."coaching" "execution"

FIFY

 

[Alphalion75]

FIFY

The success rate of execution can be coached. Watch Georgia. They don't miss many blocks or assignments. The coaches practice execution until the players get it right. And the the coaches hold the players accountable. I've heard many Kirby Smart interviews. He uses the word accountable over and over. Almost as many times as Franklin uses the word "obviously". The coaches hold the players accountable and the players hold each other accountable.

 

[StamfordBridgeVikingatLeftOffensiveTackle]

The game was lost well before kickoff.
Without going into the weeds, the game was lost in preparation.

Michigan was VERY well-prepared - and immediately had a plan and adjustment for the two key things that became evident 10 minutes into the game (Michigan's Tackles couldn't handle PSU's pass rush, and PSU's pass game was completely inept)

Hats off to the UM staff. Not the first time PSU's been through this rodeo. D'Antonio and MSU pulled it off twice against Franklin and staff. Of course, in both cases, especially the game at Beaver Stadium, a bizarre causal chain nudged PSU to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Nevertheless, MSU had scouted PSU well and simplified and tailored their plan to perfection. PSU should have won both of those games by a couple of scores.

 

[LB99]

The success rate of execution can be coached. Watch Georgia. They don't miss many blocks or assignments. The coaches practice execution until the players get it right. And the the coaches hold the players accountable. I've heard many Kirby Smart interviews. He uses the word accountable over and over. Almost as many times as Franklin uses the word "obviously". The coaches hold the players accountable and the players hold each other accountable.

Easier to do on all accounts when you have 5 star players all over your roster.

 

[psuno1]

The success rate of execution can be coached. Watch Georgia. They don't miss many blocks or assignments. The coaches practice execution until the players get it right. And the the coaches hold the players accountable. I've heard many Kirby Smart interviews. He uses the word accountable over and over. Almost as many times as Franklin uses the word "obviously". The coaches hold the players accountable and the players hold each other accountable.

To that end Georgia looks like they are going win it all again this year.

 

[Alphalion75]

Easier to do on all accounts when you have 5 star players all over your roster.

Easier to be accountable if you're a 5 star player?

 

[leinbacker]

The success rate of execution can be coached. Watch Georgia. They don't miss many blocks or assignments. The coaches practice execution until the players get it right. And the the coaches hold the players accountable. I've heard many Kirby Smart interviews. He uses the word accountable over and over. Almost as many times as Franklin uses the word "obviously". The coaches hold the players accountable and the players hold each other accountable.

Franklin laughs at execution, we have trick plays to practice

 

[LB99]

Easier to be accountable if you're a 5 star player?

Execution and making plays. Also, easier to hold the starter accountable when you can bench him and replace him with another 5 star player. The depth on that Georgia team has been incredible the past few years. I get what you are saying, but using UGA as the measuring stick isn’t really comparable.

 

[Alphalion75]

Execution and making plays. Also, easier to hold the starter accountable when you can bench him and replace him with another 5 star player. The depth on that Georgia team has been incredible the past few years. I get what you are saying, but using UGA as the measuring stick isn’t really comparable.

So if your point is that Georgia's execution and accountability is better because they have better players. Than go out and get better players. You know, Kirby Smart hasn't been a head coach as long as Franklin. But it seems he has worked harder and figured out how to win champions. So ok, Penn State certainly has equal or better talent than Michigan. Why does Michigan execute plays better than Penn State?

 

[FTLPSU]

So if your point is that Georgia's execution and accountability is better because they have better players. Than go out and get better players. You know, Kirby Smart hasn't been a head coach as long as Franklin. But it seems he has worked harder and figured out how to win champions. So ok, Penn State certainly has equal or better talent than Michigan. Why does Michigan execute plays better than Penn State?

He was a highly successful Coordinator and had great tutelage.
Major difference…we saw Franklin his first season botch game management and other novice errors…

 

[Alphalion75]

He was a highly successful Coordinator and had great tutelage.
Major difference…we saw Franklin his first season botch game management and other novice errors…

Franklin was not a novice head coach. He was HC at Vanderbilt, an SEC team.

 

[Alphalion75]

Franklin was not a novice head coach. He was HC at Vanderbilt, an SEC team.

 

[mr.michigan]

I think if you watch the replay and listen to TFrank analysis you might draw some different conclusions. The idea that we were the small fast team and UM was the big team who bullied us is not factual. 70% of the UM runs went for under 4 yds and 23% were negative. UMich went to run because they had tried to play balanced and that was turning into problems. they adapted their plan, which was good. after Drew's fumble, they needed 12 plays to get 40 yds and a FG. their big runs were all busted assignments not bullying us. the closest they got to just making a hole was the final TD run where we had just turned it over. another poor decision.

you will also see that after Drew fumble, he stopped running and went into a shell, until the end of game drive. whenever he used his legs we were more likely to move the ball. it is a definite reality that the JF offense (no matter who the OC is) needs QB who gains run yds and WRs who can win battles.

i think we may have more NFL talent on our team than UMich, but UMich QB running is more of factor for them when needed. Our DL overall beat UM OL. the long run by Corum and the Edwards TD were both stuffed at the line, but in both the RB cut back and found an edge/gap that was more assignments than getting bullied.

Our OL vs UM DL was about what I expected, but what was not expected is that UM blitzed and played close to LOS (like other teams against us). they had played all year with a light box. much of the pressure on Drew was coming with extra pressure. they used some of the same blitz packages that have worked against us by other teams.

there were several very key plays that the game pivoted around. Of course not kicking PAT's was just mindless and I don't believe that was analytics. One of the more experienced analysts commented that even on the second one you could kick and make the score 24-16 = extend the game. he even said kick away and play DEF with 2 TO's and 1:46. you keep you team in the game by extending. I think we would have forced a punt by UMich had we taken that route.

Dude, we barely tried to score. I mean, really