Not being taught in enough homes across this great land. Sad.
We before Me
- Thread starter Rhode Island Dork
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I wrote out a whole thing but:
TLDR: INDIVIDUALS who play on a TEAM of people, who then quit on the team for their own selfish reasons is NEVER, EVER Ok. Never. Period.
It is a character flaw that is largely (nowadays) taught by people who have rationalized that is ok...... it's not
TLDR: INDIVIDUALS who play on a TEAM of people, who then quit on the team for their own selfish reasons is NEVER, EVER Ok. Never. Period.
It is a character flaw that is largely (nowadays) taught by people who have rationalized that is ok...... it's not
i mostly agree. however, what about the scenario where the players potential earnings could improve not just the player's life but also that of his family. I mean the player would rather stay & play , but he comes from a very poor family and has a little one of his own. which choice is selfish now?
Doubt it brought the OP on, but Kennard declared for the draft and will miss the bowl game.
That's a rationalization to quit.
anytime a thought starts with "What about" ----- it's a rationalization.
Serious question. This guy played 4 years for GT then we hired him for one season.
Is it reasonable to really expect some sort of loyalty to the program?
Yes. The season has one very important game left.
He said he was declaring for the NFL draft. He did not say he was sitting out the bowl game. He may very well opt out of the bowl game, but at this point, I haven’t seen where he said that.
For the record, I'm not down on Kennard if he doesn't play. I just think they should.
I think declaring for the draft officially removes his eligibility, doesn't it?
I think declaring for the draft officially removes his eligibility, doesn't it?
i remember Clowney declaring as he was coming off the field after " the hit" game.
He played the bowl game but quit on the team for the next year ( according to I4CtheFuture)
He played the bowl game but quit on the team for the next year ( according to I4CtheFuture)
Please some adults opinion or provide for my family. 90% of people are going to chose the latter. Those are just the facts whether you like it or not.
He declared after the Citrus Bowl after beating Wisconsin.
I may feel it's important, many people feel the bowls are "meaningless" now though.
You're changing the parameters of the argument to get a desired result...... (rationalization)
It's not about *LOYALTY TO THE PROGRAM* -- It's about a team sport and finishing what you started with the *TEAM*
Not finishing what you started with a team of other people. Ie: quit, quitting....
Wrong. And I don't appreciate you desperately trying to change the parameters of the argument to get your desired (wrong) outcome......
Clowney finished *THE SEASON* with his team that he started the season with....... Ie: he wasn't a quitter.
Every season is a fresh start. If you start it, finish it. Teaching or encouraging kids to quit on a team sport is a horrendous life lesson. It's wrong. Period. There are no rationalizations in which you are right. Ever.
Which parameters did I change? I asked a question, and calling it rationalization doesn't answer the question.
Was "change the parameters" on your phrase of the day calendar?
The OP was about We before Me - and how it's not taught
Loyalty to the program doesn't have diddly squat to do with anything.
It's about a life lesson of finishing what you started with your team. Even if you're not loyal to the team. Again, loyalty is a completely separate "thing" - In that regard, you changed the parameters of the debate of the OP.
Unless the "we" is the program. That's how I read it.
But if those words bother you, then rephrase. Can we expect him to put "we" before himself when he's a hired gun, mercenary? He's literally on our team because he put "me" before "we".
Edit: One could also argue that since the bowl is post season, that he finished the season already. And if the bowl is "meaningless", he has even less incentive to play.
I should note, I don't feel the bowl is "meaningless", but many do.
Fair enough, fair enough. If I could have liked and laughed at your post x 2 , I would've. Touche'.
This!
Still selfish. If you abandon the TEAM before all TEAM contests have concluded, then you are a quitter & anyone who approves of it approves of a person abandoning their post before the job is done.
You literally couldn't be more wrong.
How many student-athletes with high draft potential take out injury insurance policies?
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